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Improving Tracking
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#31
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your mouse sucks

your mouse sucks
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#32
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plinkoAn old teammate of mine used to practice shotgun in MGE solly v. scout by having a little game of it where they'd start with rockets and as soon as they got any damage with one, they'd have to try and finish the scout off with the shotgun.
It made it a bit more challenging/worthwhile for the scout while guaranteeing they always had to use the shotgun for at least one hit to get a kill.

He isn't talking about me but I did the same thing and it helps a ton plus it helps teach you when a good time to switch to shotty is instead of just always firing 4 rockets. At this point it is so ingrained in my head to finish enemies with the shotgun that sometimes I am playiing ammomod(the 1200 health version) hit 2 good rockets on the other soldier and switch to shotty out of habit.

[quote=plinko]An old teammate of mine used to practice shotgun in MGE solly v. scout by having a little game of it where they'd start with rockets and as soon as they got any damage with one, they'd have to try and finish the scout off with the shotgun.
It made it a bit more challenging/worthwhile for the scout while guaranteeing they always had to use the shotgun for at least one hit to get a kill.[/quote]

He isn't talking about me but I did the same thing and it helps a ton plus it helps teach you when a good time to switch to shotty is instead of just always firing 4 rockets. At this point it is so ingrained in my head to finish enemies with the shotgun that sometimes I am playiing ammomod(the 1200 health version) hit 2 good rockets on the other soldier and switch to shotty out of habit.
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#33
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termoyour mouse sucks

yes

[quote=termo]your mouse sucks[/quote]
yes
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#34
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so try to buy a new mouse, zowie have a lot of great products

you want something that is comfortable for you based on how you hold the mouse

i would also suggest upgrading to a 120/144hz monitor if you haven't already, and making sure you are getting a good frame rate ingame

once you have done that you can start practising properly, i would suggest pugging and dm mod but mge is also great if you enjoy it!!

so try to buy a new mouse, zowie have a lot of great products

you want something that is comfortable for you based on how you hold the mouse

i would also suggest upgrading to a 120/144hz monitor if you haven't already, and making sure you are getting a good frame rate ingame

once you have done that you can start practising properly, i would suggest pugging and dm mod but mge is also great if you enjoy it!!
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#35
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pistol-only scout in mge/dm

pistol-only scout in mge/dm
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#36
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termoso try to buy a new mouse, zowie have a lot of great products

you want something that is comfortable for you based on how you hold the mouse

i would also suggest upgrading to a 120/144hz monitor if you haven't already, and making sure you are getting a good frame rate ingame

once you have done that you can start practising properly, i would suggest pugging and dm mod but mge is also great if you enjoy it!!

money ;_;

[quote=termo]so try to buy a new mouse, zowie have a lot of great products

you want something that is comfortable for you based on how you hold the mouse

i would also suggest upgrading to a 120/144hz monitor if you haven't already, and making sure you are getting a good frame rate ingame

once you have done that you can start practising properly, i would suggest pugging and dm mod but mge is also great if you enjoy it!![/quote]
money ;_;
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#37
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THEN GET A JOB

THEN GET A JOB
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#38
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yep a job is good because they pay you money

yep a job is good because they pay you money
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#39
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aieramoney ;_;

you can buy an old 120hz monitor for like $200 (probably less) and plenty of mouse with good senors sell for $30-40 (g402, kpm, rival, avior 7000, etc)

[quote=aiera]
money ;_;[/quote]
you can buy an old 120hz monitor for like $200 (probably less) and plenty of mouse with good senors sell for $30-40 (g402, kpm, rival, avior 7000, etc)
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#40
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bl4nkrandoYou can't improve shotgun aim, you are born with it.He speaks the truth. Just don't gunboat for too long or you betray your dna.

the gunboats call to me like whispers in the wind

[quote=bl4nk][quote=rando]You can't improve shotgun aim, you are born with it.[/quote]
He speaks the truth. Just don't gunboat for too long or you betray your dna.[/quote]

the gunboats call to me like whispers in the wind
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#41
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Don't you mean the direct hit Marm <|8O)

Don't you mean the direct hit Marm <|8O)
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#42
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ShikiShikiTHEN GET A JOB
[quote=ShikiShiki]THEN GET A JOB[/quote]
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#43
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play mge like a bitch for a while and you should be down

play mge like a bitch for a while and you should be down
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#44
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scout v soldier in ammomod MGE

use a low sens (i recommend 800 DPI and a sense of 2 our lower)

get a mouse that doesn't suck (if you are low on money get this http://www.amazon.com/Perixx-MX-1800B-Programmable-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B00ESESQAA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1430788784&sr=8-1&keywords=3090+mouse, it is only 15$ lightweight and has a flawless sensor)

Get a 120hz+ hz monitor you mite be able to find a cheep one for under 100$ but i would recommend the acer one that is popular

Make certain you have good FPS (100+) and vsynce off. Even if your FPS are fine i would still recommend using a fps config.

Disable view models and get yourself a hud crosshair. The default TF2 crosshairs are terrible and hud crosshairs have much higher contrast and some of them have black outlines.

and finely PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE

scout v soldier in ammomod MGE

use a low sens (i recommend 800 DPI and a sense of 2 our lower)

get a mouse that doesn't suck (if you are low on money get this http://www.amazon.com/Perixx-MX-1800B-Programmable-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B00ESESQAA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1430788784&sr=8-1&keywords=3090+mouse&tag=teamfortresst-20, it is only 15$ lightweight and has a flawless sensor)

Get a 120hz+ hz monitor you mite be able to find a cheep one for under 100$ but i would recommend the acer one that is popular

Make certain you have good FPS (100+) and vsynce off. Even if your FPS are fine i would still recommend using a fps config.

Disable view models and get yourself a hud crosshair. The default TF2 crosshairs are terrible and hud crosshairs have much higher contrast and some of them have black outlines.

and finely PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE
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#45
3 Frags +

^ wtf half those things are preference

just play the game and actually concentrate on getting better aim while you're playing instead of zoning out

^ wtf half those things are preference

just play the game and actually concentrate on getting better aim while you're playing instead of zoning out
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#46
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randoYou can't improve shotgun aim, you are born with it.

maybe it's maybelline

[quote=rando]You can't improve shotgun aim, you are born with it.[/quote]

maybe it's maybelline
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#47
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Vortex^ wtf half those things are preference

just play the game and actually concentrate on getting better aim while you're playing instead of zoning out

These are things that have helped players that i have assisted with DM before.

Disabling view models forces you to use you crosshair to aim instead of your viewmodel and the default crosshairs have shitty contrast that makes them hard to follow.

Can you get good with other settings? Yes.

Will using the "wrong" settings makes things unnecessarily more difficult? Yes.

Patterns exist for a reason. Technically 90 FOV is just a "preference".

[quote=Vortex]^ wtf half those things are preference

just play the game and actually concentrate on getting better aim while you're playing instead of zoning out[/quote]


These are things that have helped players that i have assisted with DM before.

Disabling view models forces you to use you crosshair to aim instead of your viewmodel and the default crosshairs have shitty contrast that makes them hard to follow.

Can you get good with other settings? Yes.

Will using the "wrong" settings makes things unnecessarily more difficult? Yes.

Patterns exist for a reason. Technically 90 FOV is just a "preference".
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#48
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Honestly, posting mice that have 'flawless sensors' is almost as much of a gimmick as 4k dpi. In reality, how much do you really notice a mouse that has positive/negative accel etc. sheep uses a g9x for example. Having a mouse that feels comfortable to you is probably the most important - that is my #1 preference for mice e.g. I used the xai/sensei for years because they felt comfortable to me. They didn't have the best "sensors" or anything like that, but they performed well enough and felt good in my hand.

Viewmodels are fine on or off, but I prefer them off in TF2 and QL - I have them on in TFC for what that is worth. Hud crosshairs are not a bad idea, but you can do well with just a standard solid green crosshair. The default ones can be hard to see, true.

I will agree that having a good computer and a higher refresh rate monitor does do wonders for your performance, and consistency with frame rate and such can be a big deal.I recommend playing in fullscreen mode if you don't (instead of windowed) because, at least in my experience, the game doesn't run as well and I notice some slight input delay.

Practice is good, too. I'd recommend pugs more than anything as people tend to play differently in MGE/dm, but the world is your oyster. The added benefit is you can practice developing your understanding of the game in pugs with the bonus of improving your bad guy shooting skills. Make sure you take breaks, and try and have a short warmup before scrims/matches.

edit: Doing stuff like: seeing the sun (real talk), eating properly (somewhat), staying hydrated can actually help a lot, too. Stay positive and confident in game and you will improve

Good luck

Honestly, posting mice that have 'flawless sensors' is almost as much of a gimmick as 4k dpi. In reality, how much do you really notice a mouse that has positive/negative accel etc. sheep uses a g9x for example. Having a mouse that feels comfortable to you is probably the most important - that is my #1 preference for mice e.g. I used the xai/sensei for years because they felt comfortable to me. They didn't have the best "sensors" or anything like that, but they performed well enough and felt good in my hand.

Viewmodels are fine on or off, but I prefer them off in TF2 and QL - I have them on in TFC for what that is worth. Hud crosshairs are not a bad idea, but you can do well with just a standard solid green crosshair. The default ones can be hard to see, true.

I will agree that having a good computer and a higher refresh rate monitor does do wonders for your performance, and consistency with frame rate and such can be a big deal.I recommend playing in fullscreen mode if you don't (instead of windowed) because, at least in my experience, the game doesn't run as well and I notice some slight input delay.

Practice is good, too. I'd recommend pugs more than anything as people tend to play differently in MGE/dm, but the world is your oyster. The added benefit is you can practice developing your understanding of the game in pugs with the bonus of improving your bad guy shooting skills. Make sure you take breaks, and try and have a short warmup before scrims/matches.

edit: Doing stuff like: seeing the sun (real talk), eating properly (somewhat), staying hydrated can actually help a lot, too. Stay positive and confident in game and you will improve

Good luck
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#49
2 Frags +
yukiHonestly, posting mice that have 'flawless sensors' is almost as much of a gimmick as 4k dpi

I wouldn't go that far although i would say weight and shape are more important to a point. I would rather use a laser mouse with good shape and weight than a mouse with a good sensor and a crap shape/weight.

[quote=yuki]Honestly, posting mice that have 'flawless sensors' is almost as much of a gimmick as 4k dpi[/quote]
I wouldn't go that far although i would say weight and shape are more important to a point. I would rather use a laser mouse with good shape and weight than a mouse with a good sensor and a crap shape/weight.
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#50
8 Frags +

im gonna listen to the good player

im gonna listen to the good player
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#51
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Turn off Aero.

Turn off Aero.
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#52
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yukiMouse stuff

True, but sensors can be an issue and so can bad mice. I had a mouse where there was so much friction that it pretty much stayed glued to my pad and I had to pick it up constantly, moving it too fast from side to side also made me look straight down. I'd say build quality/weight/design you're comfortable with over sensor, but make sure the sensor in your mouse isn't total garbage too.

[quote=yuki]Mouse stuff[/quote]
True, but sensors can be an issue and so can bad mice. I had a mouse where there was so much friction that it pretty much stayed glued to my pad and I had to pick it up constantly, moving it too fast from side to side also made me look straight down. I'd say build quality/weight/design you're comfortable with over sensor, but make sure the sensor in your mouse isn't total garbage too.
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#53
5 Frags +

one must conquer their own internal DM before ascension into DM god territory

one must conquer their own internal DM before ascension into DM god territory
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