DanceNumberanyone else think its insane to have just one admin dealing with all the ban requests on tf2c. Like if I had to look at 20-40 ban requests a day i'd just start flipping a coin.
edit:
the admins have a "wall of shame" thread
http://forums.tf2center.com/topic/4167-wall-of-shame/?p=23219
TF2Center had several admins taking care of the bans, and it all depended on who was available. Over time MNC, Void, RTC and I have done it, and since Fairy came to position she did the bulk load of it. I went on to do the sensitive bans (cheating) since I have played at least a season in competitive leagues. I hope that Terry took over since I left.
All bans need a ban thread to be linked to it, but somehow masternoob and tereza could circumvent that constraint, and ended up having hundreds of bans (ranging from chat to login bans) without any evidence linked back. Whereas all other admins and moderators were only inching at the double digits. So I think that alleviated the mods of their workload a bit.
I can't visit the forums (banned there too), but I got linked a screenshot showing a comment made by RTC was placed on it. Not sure why it's up there or who posted it, but from what I read it wasn't too flattering for TF2C
[quote=DanceNumber]anyone else think its insane to have just one admin dealing with all the ban requests on tf2c. Like if I had to look at 20-40 ban requests a day i'd just start flipping a coin.
edit:
the admins have a "wall of shame" thread
http://forums.tf2center.com/topic/4167-wall-of-shame/?p=23219[/quote]
TF2Center had several admins taking care of the bans, and it all depended on who was available. Over time MNC, Void, RTC and I have done it, and since Fairy came to position she did the bulk load of it. I went on to do the sensitive bans (cheating) since I have played at least a season in competitive leagues. I hope that Terry took over since I left.
All bans need a ban thread to be linked to it, but somehow masternoob and tereza could circumvent that constraint, and ended up having hundreds of bans (ranging from chat to login bans) without any evidence linked back. Whereas all other admins and moderators were only inching at the double digits. So I think that alleviated the mods of their workload a bit.
I can't visit the forums (banned there too), but I got linked a screenshot showing a comment made by RTC was placed on it. Not sure why it's up there or who posted it, but from what I read it wasn't too flattering for TF2C
DanceNumberthe admins have a "wall of shame" thread
http://forums.tf2center.com/topic/4167-wall-of-shame/?p=23219
the hole gets deeper and deeper. you'd think he was TRYING to be as childish and stupid as possible at this point
[quote=DanceNumber]the admins have a "wall of shame" thread
http://forums.tf2center.com/topic/4167-wall-of-shame/?p=23219[/quote]
the hole gets deeper and deeper. you'd think he was TRYING to be as childish and stupid as possible at this point
Quote from http://etf2l.org/forum/lan/topic-30935/page-35/#post-539676
Hello Gamers and DeutschLAN-enthusiasts, as well as just regular forum users,
We promised there would be a statement from the DeutschLAN organization team regarding the TF2Center topic that blew up on Saturday.
First of all, we regret the way these information were published. We did not sit down and had a proper talk in our group before Hartz posted his announcement on Saturday. That was a clear miscommunication and not professional on our part, and I apologize for that to TF2Center.
Let us talk facts: It is true that TF2Center initially were offering us a sponsorship in January when the idea of DeutschLAN became reality.
It is also true that after some time, TF2Center backpedaled. Sadly they did so without informing us on time. Now, there have been severe misunderstandings between the TF2Center and DeutschLAN staff, so that the exact timeline of when what happened is hard to figure out. . From our POV the backpedaling happened much more recently than from TF2Center´s.
However, we were disappointed of course when we heard we would get less out of the sponsorship. We were going to talk about it and see if the named sponsorship title was still being justified.
Also true is, that TF2Center requested us to not let a player participate at our LAN, stating there could be more money for us (than the now reduced amount), if we did.
We never considered this an offer we could accept in any way. We are not going to ban players from coming to DeutschLAN for money, or pretty much for any other reason than Anti-Cheat-issues.
Following up on this request, emotions took over and information about this got published while still being very disappointed about these circumstances. This was obviously a mistake by us.
Both sides sat down and admitted several mistakes, mostly about communication.
However, shit did hit the fan and TF2Center is not our main/named sponsor anymore. I want to clarify, that we do not have a main sponsor at this point of time. I know we announced differently on Saturday, but this happened without proper negotiations. We are currently looking for a new main sponsor and we are open for anyone to approach us. It is true, though, that TF2pickup.net is interested in taking over that position.
The donations we received to our indiegogo campaign were not made by masternoob or mother tereza. We have an idea who it was, but we understand the donator wants to stay anonymous. That’s fine by us, but we would want the donator(s) to reply to our inquiries anyways, to make sure no further misunderstandings occur. For the remainder of the fund raisers please refrain from using fake names in the future that could intend to hurt the relation to TF2Center. If you are willing to donate an amount and not show your own name, there is the option to do an anonymous donation.
I also want to be clear about one thing: nobody is at war, we are not enemies to anyone. Most importantly: this is not an issue between ETF2L and TF2Center!! DeutschLAN is not an ETF2L event, although ETF2L kindly grants us access to their infrastructure to announce and promote this event. We would like to keep it that way. DeutschLAN is organized by a private group of people that wants to set up an amazing weekend of Highlander gaming.
Our indiegogo campaign broke the 2k-mark, reaching our goal 22 days before the end of the campaign. Big thanks to everyone that contributed! So far we raised 2.194 € through indiegogo and another ~550 € with our donations on stream during the showmatches.
We will continue the fundraiser until it officially closes on July 28th.
Since the main sponsorship will probably be smaller than expected, we are still somewhat behind our expectations. Supporting the LAN still helps us out a lot, every Cent will be spend on the event. So feel free to keep contributing, it has been an amazing journey so far, but we can make it even bigger!
Moving on, we apologize for yesterday´s derpy showmatch. We had to bring in a replacement team last minute, had several ddos-issues und a huge delay. Overall probably not our best work, but you guys still supported us. We raised 130€ on stream plus 80€ on our indiegogo last night! Thanks and congratulations to Aesirson, who won the unusual hat raffle!
Now go out and spread love and peace and happiness!
Quote from http://etf2l.org/forum/lan/topic-30935/page-35/#post-539676
[quote]Hello Gamers and DeutschLAN-enthusiasts, as well as just regular forum users,
We promised there would be a statement from the DeutschLAN organization team regarding the TF2Center topic that blew up on Saturday.
First of all, we regret the way these information were published. We did not sit down and had a proper talk in our group before Hartz posted his announcement on Saturday. That was a clear miscommunication and not professional on our part, and I apologize for that to TF2Center.
Let us talk facts: It is true that TF2Center initially were offering us a sponsorship in January when the idea of DeutschLAN became reality.
It is also true that after some time, TF2Center backpedaled. Sadly they did so without informing us on time. Now, there have been severe misunderstandings between the TF2Center and DeutschLAN staff, so that the exact timeline of when what happened is hard to figure out. . From our POV the backpedaling happened much more recently than from TF2Center´s.
However, we were disappointed of course when we heard we would get less out of the sponsorship. We were going to talk about it and see if the named sponsorship title was still being justified.
Also true is, that TF2Center requested us to not let a player participate at our LAN, stating there could be more money for us (than the now reduced amount), if we did.
We never considered this an offer we could accept in any way. We are not going to ban players from coming to DeutschLAN for money, or pretty much for any other reason than Anti-Cheat-issues.
Following up on this request, emotions took over and information about this got published while still being very disappointed about these circumstances. This was obviously a mistake by us.
Both sides sat down and admitted several mistakes, mostly about communication.
However, shit did hit the fan and TF2Center is not our main/named sponsor anymore. I want to clarify, that we do not have a main sponsor at this point of time. I know we announced differently on Saturday, but this happened without proper negotiations. We are currently looking for a new main sponsor and we are open for anyone to approach us. It is true, though, that TF2pickup.net is interested in taking over that position.
The donations we received to our indiegogo campaign were not made by masternoob or mother tereza. We have an idea who it was, but we understand the donator wants to stay anonymous. That’s fine by us, but we would want the donator(s) to reply to our inquiries anyways, to make sure no further misunderstandings occur. For the remainder of the fund raisers please refrain from using fake names in the future that could intend to hurt the relation to TF2Center. If you are willing to donate an amount and not show your own name, there is the option to do an anonymous donation.
I also want to be clear about one thing: nobody is at war, we are not enemies to anyone. Most importantly: this is not an issue between ETF2L and TF2Center!! DeutschLAN is not an ETF2L event, although ETF2L kindly grants us access to their infrastructure to announce and promote this event. We would like to keep it that way. DeutschLAN is organized by a private group of people that wants to set up an amazing weekend of Highlander gaming.
Our indiegogo campaign broke the 2k-mark, reaching our goal 22 days before the end of the campaign. Big thanks to everyone that contributed! So far we raised 2.194 € through indiegogo and another ~550 € with our donations on stream during the showmatches.
We will continue the fundraiser until it officially closes on July 28th.
Since the main sponsorship will probably be smaller than expected, we are still somewhat behind our expectations. Supporting the LAN still helps us out a lot, every Cent will be spend on the event. So feel free to keep contributing, it has been an amazing journey so far, but we can make it even bigger!
Moving on, we apologize for yesterday´s derpy showmatch. We had to bring in a replacement team last minute, had several ddos-issues und a huge delay. Overall probably not our best work, but you guys still supported us. We raised 130€ on stream plus 80€ on our indiegogo last night! Thanks and congratulations to Aesirson, who won the unusual hat raffle!
Now go out and spread love and peace and happiness![/quote]
TF2C pushed back it's announcement yet another time to the 'tommorow' because of DeutschLAN's.
TF2C pushed back it's announcement yet another time to the 'tommorow' because of DeutschLAN's.
11:01 PM - Mogadishu Mile: there was a ton of drama around our win
11:02 PM - Mogadishu Mile: the tf2c admin ninjaMooCow was on their team. After we won he was talking all kinds of shit to us, then went to the match results and posted that THEY won, so we had to have a UGC admin fix it
N A S T E E L
11:01 PM - Mogadishu Mile: there was a ton of drama around our win
11:02 PM - Mogadishu Mile: the tf2c admin ninjaMooCow was on their team. After we won he was talking all kinds of shit to us, then went to the match results and posted that THEY won, so we had to have a UGC admin fix it
N A S T E E L
lol, whatever respect anyone had for that guy just went out the window.
lol, whatever respect anyone had for that guy just went out the window.
TF2C's administration team has serious issues. In other shocking news, Team Fortress 2 is a video game and Earth is not, in fact, flat but rather more of an imperfect sphere.
TF2C's administration team has serious issues. In other shocking news, Team Fortress 2 is a video game and Earth is not, in fact, flat but rather more of an imperfect sphere.
phobiaa hl lan sounds really dumb imo
The last florida lan had HL. Everyone who went will tell you it was a blast.
[quote=phobia]a hl lan sounds really dumb imo[/quote]
The last florida lan had HL. Everyone who went will tell you it was a blast.
lmao this nigga is delusional, he added him being called out to his "wall of shame thread"
http://forums.tf2center.com/topic/4167-wall-of-shame/#entry23219
lmao this nigga is delusional, he added him being called out to his "wall of shame thread"
http://forums.tf2center.com/topic/4167-wall-of-shame/#entry23219
I'm starting to think this TF2C announcement is never going to come. This is the 3rd time it's been delayed now I think.
DoctorMiggyphobiaa hl lan sounds really dumb imo
The last florida lan had HL. Everyone who went will tell you it was a blast.
i52 had a HL LAN tournament that was a lot of fun too.
I'm starting to think this TF2C announcement is never going to come. This is the 3rd time it's been delayed now I think.
[quote=DoctorMiggy][quote=phobia]a hl lan sounds really dumb imo[/quote]
The last florida lan had HL. Everyone who went will tell you it was a blast.[/quote]
i52 had a HL LAN tournament that was a lot of fun too.
Update on http://etf2l.org/forum/lan/topic-30935/page-37/#post-539803
To sum it all up:
Saturday
There will be an announcement tomorrow night about the recent news regarding Tf2c from the staff and the head admins.
It will be posted in the center forums for everyone to read and comment.
Sunday
Monday
539587For those wondering where our statement is, the DeutschLAN and TF2C staffs are talking directly to each other. The developments should be up tomorrow
Tuesday
Wednesday
539803In light of recent events and the massive outpouring of posts in public forums, we, the TF2Center team, feel it is our responsibility to post a statement addressing these events and the comp TF2 community’s concerns. Tomorrow evening cest time it will be out. :)
Update on http://etf2l.org/forum/lan/topic-30935/page-37/#post-539803
To sum it all up:
[b]Saturday[/b]
[quote]There will be an announcement tomorrow night about the recent news regarding Tf2c from the staff and the head admins.
It will be posted in the center forums for everyone to read and comment.[/quote]
[b]Sunday[/b]
[quote] [/quote]
[b]Monday[/b]
[quote=539587]For those wondering where our statement is, the DeutschLAN and TF2C staffs are talking directly to each other. The developments should be up tomorrow[/quote]
[b]Tuesday[/b]
[quote] [/quote]
[b]Wednesday[/b]
[quote=539803]In light of recent events and the massive outpouring of posts in public forums, we, the TF2Center team, feel it is our responsibility to post a statement addressing these events and the comp TF2 community’s concerns. Tomorrow evening cest time it will be out. :)[/quote]
What did you guys expect? His name is "masternoob". It's like using the name "uber_pwner" or "leetskillzguy666"
Hopefully everything goes well for the LAN. It would be a shame for it to be ruined due to any idiocy on TF2C's part.
Edit: lol at the "wall of shame": the guy is actually a child
What did you guys expect? His name is "masternoob". It's like using the name "uber_pwner" or "leetskillzguy666"
Hopefully everything goes well for the LAN. It would be a shame for it to be ruined due to any idiocy on TF2C's part.
Edit: lol at the "wall of shame": the guy is actually a child
TF2Center team's response: http://etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-31792/page-1/#post-539883
I wrote a more detailed response on that thread but interestingly it was posted on the TF2C forums but it's disappeared again around 2 hours after it was posted on ETF2L. I really can't comprehend what on earth is going on at TF2C anymore.
TF2Center team's response: http://etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-31792/page-1/#post-539883
I wrote a more detailed response on that thread but interestingly it was posted on the TF2C forums but it's disappeared again around 2 hours after it was posted on ETF2L. I really can't comprehend what on earth is going on at TF2C anymore.
Double post but
http://i.imgur.com/K81Gl6p.png
I fucking called it. Masternoob will never change.
EDIT: I think we should make a separate thread like on ETF2L, this is starting to detract from DeutschLAN itself and I don't want that.
EDIT 2: Apparently the clown thing was something Marty did to himself. Apologies.
Double post but
http://i.imgur.com/K81Gl6p.png
I fucking called it. Masternoob will never change.
EDIT: I think we should make a separate thread like on ETF2L, this is starting to detract from DeutschLAN itself and I don't want that.
EDIT 2: Apparently the clown thing was something Marty did to himself. Apologies.
[quote]Masternoob[/quote]
[img]http://www.reactionface.info/sites/default/files/imagecache/Node_Page/images/1311190388805.gif[/img]
REM_TF2Double post but
http://i.imgur.com/a8KhuSS.png
I fucking called it. Masternoob will never change.
EDIT: I think we should make a separate thread like on ETF2L, this is starting to detract from DeutschLAN itself and I don't want that.
Wait, so Marty got kicked from the admin team??
[quote=REM_TF2]Double post but
http://i.imgur.com/a8KhuSS.png
I fucking called it. Masternoob will never change.
EDIT: I think we should make a separate thread like on ETF2L, this is starting to detract from DeutschLAN itself and I don't want that.[/quote]
Wait, so Marty got kicked from the admin team??
vibhavpREM_TF2Double post but
http://i.imgur.com/a8KhuSS.png
I fucking called it. Masternoob will never change.
EDIT: I think we should make a separate thread like on ETF2L, this is starting to detract from DeutschLAN itself and I don't want that.
Wait, so Marty got kicked from the admin team??
Yep. All because he posted that statement on ETF2L.
EDIT: Apparently Marty added the "clown" thing himself so I'll remove that from my original post. Apologies for misleading people on that.
[quote=vibhavp][quote=REM_TF2]Double post but
http://i.imgur.com/a8KhuSS.png
I fucking called it. Masternoob will never change.
EDIT: I think we should make a separate thread like on ETF2L, this is starting to detract from DeutschLAN itself and I don't want that.[/quote]
Wait, so Marty got kicked from the admin team??[/quote]
Yep. All because he posted that statement on ETF2L.
EDIT: Apparently Marty added the "clown" thing himself so I'll remove that from my original post. Apologies for misleading people on that.
REM_TF2Double post but
http://i.imgur.com/a8KhuSS.png
I fucking called it. Masternoob will never change.
EDIT: I think we should make a separate thread like on ETF2L, this is starting to detract from DeutschLAN itself and I don't want that.
This profile is from January 2014 doe....
EDIT: my bad, its when he got registered. can anyone confirm he got kicked?
[quote=REM_TF2]Double post but
http://i.imgur.com/a8KhuSS.png
I fucking called it. Masternoob will never change.
EDIT: I think we should make a separate thread like on ETF2L, this is starting to detract from DeutschLAN itself and I don't want that.[/quote]
This profile is from January 2014 doe....
EDIT: my bad, its when he got registered. can anyone confirm he got kicked?
Removing the statement from your own site and removing the guy who posted it as an admin... real nice guys. The people running this site are a fucking joke
Removing the statement from your own site and removing the guy who posted it as an admin... real nice guys. The people running this site are a fucking joke
REM_TF2EDIT: I think we should make a separate thread like on ETF2L, this is starting to detract from DeutschLAN itself and I don't want that.
.
Ask and you shall receive.
[quote=REM_TF2]
EDIT: I think we should make a separate thread like on ETF2L, this is starting to detract from DeutschLAN itself and I don't want that.
.[/quote]
[url=http://www.teamfortress.tv/thread/26829/why-it-s-time-to-say-goodbye-to-tf2center]Ask and you shall receive.[/url]
Confirmation from marty himself that he was indeed demoted.
http://i.imgur.com/BOqI9SC.png
Confirmation from marty himself that he was indeed demoted.
http://i.imgur.com/BOqI9SC.png
Still waiting for an announcement in TF2C forums :/
Jokes aside it's all in all a good statement especially as it successfully moves the focus to the money which wasn't a core issue behind all this. I mean they still mentioned trying to bribe LAN organizers to ban a player from attending (a player which they say wasn't malicious to them too), but it was just made look like a side issue and seeing RTC put in the Wall of Shame the day the original statement was supposed to be posted makes me feel that MN didn't really want to post it, it just looks like he was like "ok do whatever you want, I don't care about them if they don't like me" when others wanted to save site's reputation.
Still waiting for an announcement in [b]TF2C forums[/b] :/
Jokes aside it's all in all a good statement especially as it successfully moves the focus to the money which wasn't a core issue behind all this. I mean they still mentioned trying to bribe LAN organizers to ban a player from attending (a player which they say wasn't malicious to them too), but it was just made look like a side issue and seeing RTC put in the Wall of Shame the day the original statement was supposed to be posted makes me feel that MN didn't really want to post it, it just looks like he was like "ok do whatever you want, I don't care about them if they don't like me" when others wanted to save site's reputation.
yukiWhat did you guys expect? His name is "masternoob". It's like using the name "uber_pwner" or "leetskillzguy666"
Hopefully everything goes well for the LAN. It would be a shame for it to be ruined due to any idiocy on TF2C's part.
Edit: lol at the "wall of shame": the guy is actually a child
took the words right outta my mouth
[quote=yuki]What did you guys expect? His name is "masternoob". It's like using the name "uber_pwner" or "leetskillzguy666"
Hopefully everything goes well for the LAN. It would be a shame for it to be ruined due to any idiocy on TF2C's part.
Edit: lol at the "wall of shame": the guy is actually a child[/quote]
took the words right outta my mouth
So wait, esea installs mining software which is ok but this is where u guys draw the line? I'm not defending center but get your priorities straight
So wait, esea installs mining software which is ok but this is where u guys draw the line? I'm not defending center but get your priorities straight
http://forums.tf2center.com/topic/6069-a-personal-statement-from-masternoob/