We all know yuri hacked like it's completely obvious and if you are too stupid to realize that then I feel sorry for you. Stop defending your friend who is clearly a hacker and is lying to you.

like real talk you cant really deny 96%

it's almost as if tf2center is run by morons and VAC doesn't catch most TF2 cheats...

You can't ban someone solely based on their accuracy stats either.

I'd disagree. If you are doing 96% accuracy across any reasonable amount of damage you have to be using some sort of silent aim cheat. It may be extremely difficult to detect this cheat watching the demo, but it is pretty obvious that 96% accuracy is not humanly possible.

The limit at which the accuracy becomes humanly impossible is very arbitrary and unreliable. There's almost always reasonable doubt if you just go by accuracy stats.

The 96% accuracy log as well as many others have been proven to be a result of faulty log recordings. This should have been incredibly obvious to anyone who actually watched the STV or looked at the logs files.

I don't know why cats4lyfe felt the need to post here and restart the fire, but if you have any real evidence that yuri hacks please feel free to post it or contact TF2C admins, otherwise complaining about her being unbanned will get you nowhere.

like anyone who's played w/ yuri could tell they weren't hacking smh

Specifically, every time a scout hits more than one player with one shot the log files register every pellet that hits a player as a separate 'shot_hit'. I went through the stv of the '96%' game and tallied up the real accuracy - it was 80%, not 96. One round there were actually more 'shot_hit' than 'shot_fired' commands -- if that had been the only round of the game yuri would have shown up as having >100% accuracy. That doesn't mean she's cheating, it just means the logs tally accuracy stats in a dumb way (and people in lobbies clump up stupidly).

And you're back to defend your friend, how cute.

Do I even need to explain how pathetic and stupid you sound?

how is this an even remotely reasonable response to explaining the flaws in your odd, arbitrary witchhunting

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dflame strikes again

It looked like he used silent aim from STV, but since that was hard to tell I managed to get a POV of his from an earlier game

http://www.mediafire.com/download/bge299ak2tu5d6w/ddsniperhack.dem

Haven't looked at it yet

Can you point me to the round with more shots hit than fired? As far as I can tell logs.tf doesn't keep track of hits/round.

Round 3, according to the log file there were 62 'shot_hit' listings but only 51 'shot_fired' ones.

I want to clear up some things for people in this thread.

There is no such thing as "Cleared by AC team". This is an unequivocally stupid statement - no one is ever "cleared", there is just not enough evidence to say without a doubt that the individual is a cheater.

I have left TF2C. I no longer have direct access to player information, and cannot handle bans. I can and will still assist them in AC issues, but that's dependent on whether or not they want me to do so.

Again, this thread should be used to accuse people with proper evidence. Yuri's log of 96% accuracy is enough to gather suspicion, but a simple number is most definitely not enough to ban a player.

I hadn't thought to look through the actual log file, thanks

I'm an idiot, sorry.

hey thanks man

No problem. To make things easier when I was going through it I split the file up into separate rounds, here's a link if you or anyone else wants to download it.

I inquired with TF2C about yuri, as I was extremely surprised she would be unbanned suddenly without a reason given.

Well it turns out that yrui ban was the result of a ban error where the ban length was set for 1 month, instead of a full length 10 year cheater ban. I'm told that the full length 10 year ban has been reinstated.

^ funny because there's no hacks in the slightest lol as anyone who has gone through the stv can testify.

To save anyone the trouble of going through the stv and counting all the hits and misses, here's my data compared with the logs'. Note that in round 3 the logs think that Yuri actually missed minus eleven times which is obviously wrong.

You can see by comparing the 'total' columns that they don't quite match, that's because of two things, firstly I didn't count the shots fired after round end when I was manually counting up the real number of hits and misses, and secondly because I was doing it from an STV and it's actually quite hard to tell whether someone hit or missed a shot fired across the map. I spent quite a lot of time on it and went back over things I was unsure about but I still obviously missed a couple overall. In any case that won't really change the percentages much.

nope did you go to the PoV of everybody she fired a shot at and check that their health went down, or did you just pause and see if her crosshair was on a player? If she were using silent aim then shots would hit that didn't appear to be on target

I checked health duh I'm not that retarded lol

It's easier than having to go to their pov though, as long as you have the advanced spectator hud enabled you can see everyone's health.

And I'll repeat what I said before when this was originally mentioned in the thread, there's nothing fishy in the stv at all. The only reason people would start thinking of hacks is because of the absurdly high accuracy percentage shown in the logs. But that's because they were essentially broken. I'm only surprised that more perfectly legitimate scouts haven't posted ridiculous accuracy percentages because of this issue. I guess because dealing chip damage to multiple people at once from far away is usually somewhat pointless.

wait so terry unbanned yuri then dollarlayer went to another admin to get her banned again sick

hey if yuri is hacking make a video with proof

if not fuck off and stop harassing her/her friends

also

12:40 AM - yuri: i was banned
12:40 AM - yuri: on the 16th of june

interesting

I asked a TF2C admin why yuri was unbanned and if there was any reason or internal discussion about it. And mentioned this thread. I never asked the admin to re-ban or anything like that, as I don't have the authority to ask for that. The admin took the liberty re-add the ban.

This is an exact copy and paste message I received:

I was told: "There's nothing new on the thread. literally nothing. oh lol. wow. Apparently _________ screwed up the ban length. it was set to 1 month. not like, 10 years. Ban is re-added."

If the admins involved in this case want to chime in, they can feel free to do so. I'm not going to be throwing anyone under the bus.