Perhaps a human face on what harm TF2C and its shitty rule system has caused could better put into perspective why a change needs to be made.
I was playing a pub, as I do sometimes, and I met a nice fellow named Timeless! (his name actually has a ! in it.) Anyway, I started talking to him, he had the tag "lft iron roamer" in his name. I said I'd love to help him get on a team he was ecstatic. I even offered to go over a demo with him.
And then he told me that he didn't have any demos to go over. Of course, I asked why. And he told me that he hadn't gotten any tryouts, and that he had been banned from TF2C. Permanently.
Now I was pretty interested, considering I had been banned for 2 weeks recently after breaking absolutely zero rules, SINCE TF2C DOESN'T HAVE ANY!
He told me that the server owner on the lobby he was playing was spamming chat and being obnoxious, and as he was drunk at the time, told the guy to kill himself. He was reported and permanently banned. His unban request was rejected, and his alt got banned for "ban evasion."
Do I think his banning was just? Maybe. Do I think it was excessive? Definitely.
The fact that someone as nice as this guy can get permanently banned from the only low-skill matchmaking system in TF2 seems a little unfair in my opinion.
I hope this ultimately gets the attention of some of the admins who are clueless and barely speak english over at TF2C.
Yours truly,
Arcadia
Perhaps a human face on what harm TF2C and its shitty rule system has caused could better put into perspective why a change needs to be made.
I was playing a pub, as I do sometimes, and I met a nice fellow named Timeless! (his name actually has a ! in it.) Anyway, I started talking to him, he had the tag "lft iron roamer" in his name. I said I'd love to help him get on a team he was ecstatic. I even offered to go over a demo with him.
And then he told me that he didn't have any demos to go over. Of course, I asked why. And he told me that he hadn't gotten any tryouts, and that he had been banned from TF2C. Permanently.
Now I was pretty interested, considering I had been banned for 2 weeks recently after breaking absolutely zero rules, SINCE TF2C DOESN'T HAVE ANY!
He told me that the server owner on the lobby he was playing was spamming chat and being obnoxious, and as he was drunk at the time, told the guy to kill himself. He was reported and permanently banned. His unban request was rejected, and his alt got banned for "ban evasion."
Do I think his banning was just? Maybe. Do I think it was excessive? Definitely.
The fact that someone as nice as this guy can get permanently banned from the only low-skill matchmaking system in TF2 seems a little unfair in my opinion.
I hope this ultimately gets the attention of some of the admins who are clueless and barely speak english over at TF2C.
Yours truly,
Arcadia
i see him in dm servers a bunch he's good and that ban sounds pretty stupid. when was the ban?
i see him in dm servers a bunch he's good and that ban sounds pretty stupid. when was the ban?
parki see him in dm servers a bunch he's good and that ban sounds pretty stupid. when was the ban?
from what i remember it was a few months ago, upwards of 6
[quote=park]i see him in dm servers a bunch he's good and that ban sounds pretty stupid. when was the ban?[/quote]
from what i remember it was a few months ago, upwards of 6
nobelharvardsSuicide is a serious issue worldwide.
There is nothing funny about suicide or suicidal thoughts, no matter the context.
Ever played a payload map on the red team?
[quote=nobelharvards]Suicide is a serious issue worldwide.
There is nothing funny about suicide or suicidal thoughts, [b]no matter the context[/b].[/quote]
Ever played a payload map on the red team?
naknaknobelharvardsSuicide is a serious issue worldwide.
There is nothing funny about suicide or suicidal thoughts, no matter the context.
Ever played a payload map on the red team?
still not funny
[quote=naknak][quote=nobelharvards]Suicide is a serious issue worldwide.
There is nothing [b]funny[/b] about suicide or suicidal thoughts, [b]no matter the context[/b].[/quote]
Ever played a payload map on the red team?[/quote]
still not funny
I hope one of the clueless, barely English speaking TF2Center admins manages to explain to you why your drunk, ban evading buddy who told someone to kill themselves got permabanned.
I hope one of the clueless, barely English speaking TF2Center admins manages to explain to you why your drunk, ban evading buddy who told someone to kill themselves got permabanned.
But there are no permanent bans on TF2C
But there are no permanent bans on TF2C
i really dont get the point of this thread. the dude got fairly banned from tf2c for being rude, so its not an issue with tf2c bans. and hes still eager to find a team, so its not an issue with the tf2c community.
its also really not that hard to get into competitive tf2 even if youre dumb enough to get banned from tf2c, you can just find an iron team.
CHERRYBut there are no permanent bans on TF2C
100 year bans count as permanent
i really dont get the point of this thread. the dude got fairly banned from tf2c for being rude, so its not an issue with tf2c bans. and hes still eager to find a team, so its not an issue with the tf2c community.
its also really not that hard to get into competitive tf2 even if youre dumb enough to get banned from tf2c, you can just find an iron team.
[quote=CHERRY]But there are no permanent bans on TF2C[/quote]
100 year bans count as permanent
Hi.
Here is your ban post you forgot to include it.http://forums.tf2center.com/topic/5959-thoughts-steam-0166763926/
Here is your unban request, which u also forgot to include-> http://forums.tf2center.com/topic/6003-arcadia-steam-0191523620/?hl=arcadia
Why it was 2w instead of 1w for !rep abuse is bcs you typed- nazimoocow. Toxic chat is 1w+ Even if you apologized for abusing rep its still not so kind calling a admin a nazi. :c which you ddnt apologized for.
All of that was explained in the rejected unban.
Hi.
Here is your ban post you forgot to include it.http://forums.tf2center.com/topic/5959-thoughts-steam-0166763926/
Here is your unban request, which u also forgot to include-> http://forums.tf2center.com/topic/6003-arcadia-steam-0191523620/?hl=arcadia
Why it was 2w instead of 1w for !rep abuse is bcs you typed- nazimoocow. Toxic chat is 1w+ Even if you apologized for abusing rep its still not so kind calling a admin a nazi. :c which you ddnt apologized for.
All of that was explained in the rejected unban.
thread went right into the dumpster
thread went right into the dumpster
FairyHi.
Here is your ban post you forgot to include it.http://forums.tf2center.com/topic/5959-thoughts-steam-0166763926/
Here is your unban request, which u also forgot to include-> http://forums.tf2center.com/topic/6003-arcadia-steam-0191523620/?hl=arcadia
Why it was 2w instead of 1w for !rep abuse is bcs you typed- nazimoocow. Toxic chat is 1w+ Even if you apologized for abusing rep its still not so kind calling a admin a nazi. :c which you ddnt apologized for.
All of that was explained in the rejected unban.
Who cares??????? This post isn't about himself.
[quote=Fairy]Hi.
Here is your ban post you forgot to include it.http://forums.tf2center.com/topic/5959-thoughts-steam-0166763926/
Here is your unban request, which u also forgot to include-> http://forums.tf2center.com/topic/6003-arcadia-steam-0191523620/?hl=arcadia
Why it was 2w instead of 1w for !rep abuse is bcs you typed- nazimoocow. Toxic chat is 1w+ Even if you apologized for abusing rep its still not so kind calling a admin a nazi. :c which you ddnt apologized for.
All of that was explained in the rejected unban.[/quote]
Who cares??????? This post isn't about himself.
CorsaFairyHi.
Here is your ban post you forgot to include it.http://forums.tf2center.com/topic/5959-thoughts-steam-0166763926/
Here is your unban request, which u also forgot to include-> http://forums.tf2center.com/topic/6003-arcadia-steam-0191523620/?hl=arcadia
Why it was 2w instead of 1w for !rep abuse is bcs you typed- nazimoocow. Toxic chat is 1w+ Even if you apologized for abusing rep its still not so kind calling a admin a nazi. :c which you ddnt apologized for.
All of that was explained in the rejected unban.
Who cares??????? This post isn't about himself.
--------------------------
*Now I was pretty interested, considering I had been banned for 2 weeks recently after breaking absolutely zero rules, SINCE TF2C DOESN'T HAVE ANY! *
Well he did type that.
[quote=Corsa][quote=Fairy]Hi.
Here is your ban post you forgot to include it.http://forums.tf2center.com/topic/5959-thoughts-steam-0166763926/
Here is your unban request, which u also forgot to include-> http://forums.tf2center.com/topic/6003-arcadia-steam-0191523620/?hl=arcadia
Why it was 2w instead of 1w for !rep abuse is bcs you typed- nazimoocow. Toxic chat is 1w+ Even if you apologized for abusing rep its still not so kind calling a admin a nazi. :c which you ddnt apologized for.
All of that was explained in the rejected unban.[/quote]
Who cares??????? This post isn't about himself.[/quote]
--------------------------
*Now I was pretty interested, considering I had been banned for 2 weeks recently after breaking absolutely zero rules, SINCE TF2C DOESN'T HAVE ANY! *
Well he did type that.
Derailing the thread talking about OP instead of the issue presented by OP.
This aint reddit, homie
Derailing the thread talking about OP instead of the issue presented by OP.
This aint reddit, homie
Yeah you're right actually. I guess those links do support the idea that you guys ban players for excessive amounts time.
Yeah you're right actually. I guess those links do support the idea that you guys ban players for excessive amounts time.
So you get a permaban for backchatting a spammer, but nothing for being a lobby leader who kicks people on the other team from the server in the middle of a match or just closes lobbies after people have been queueing for ages or kicks people so their friend can play or kicks people with 0 lobbies in a lobby with no minimum restrictions?
So you get a permaban for backchatting a spammer, but nothing for being a lobby leader who kicks people on the other team from the server in the middle of a match or just closes lobbies after people have been queueing for ages or kicks people so their friend can play or kicks people with 0 lobbies in a lobby with no minimum restrictions?
damn a permaban for telling a spammer to kill themselves?
i don't even think a ban in the first place was really warranted
damn a permaban for telling a spammer to kill themselves?
i don't even think a ban in the first place was really warranted
and I met a nice fellow named Timeless!
http://tf2center.com/profile/76561198047912210
and that he had been banned from TF2C. Permanently.
-------------------------------------------------
He's not banned and never have been. No alt accounts on the ip either.
http://imgur.com/bpoP9Fw
Your angry about a person who never got banned?
[i]and I met a nice fellow named Timeless![/i]
[b]http://tf2center.com/profile/76561198047912210[/b]
[i]and that he had been banned from TF2C. Permanently.[/i]
-------------------------------------------------
He's not banned and never have been. No alt accounts on the ip either.
http://imgur.com/bpoP9Fw
Your angry about a person who never got banned?
i thought we didnt support tf2center anymore
why do we care about someone getting banned from a site we dont support
i thought we didnt support tf2center anymore
why do we care about someone getting banned from a site we dont support
Edit: Had the wrong guy WOOPS!!!
Edit: Had the wrong guy WOOPS!!!
Cmon, lets hate TF2C, who cares about reasons.
Cmon, lets hate TF2C, who cares about reasons.
Fairyand I met a nice fellow named Timeless!
http://tf2center.com/profile/76561198047912210
and that he had been banned from TF2C. Permanently.
-------------------------------------------------
He's not banned and never have been. No alt accounts on the ip either.
http://imgur.com/bpoP9Fw
Your angry about a person who never got banned?
Two different people lol
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198058039226
[quote=Fairy][i]and I met a nice fellow named Timeless![/i]
[b]http://tf2center.com/profile/76561198047912210[/b]
[i]and that he had been banned from TF2C. Permanently.[/i]
-------------------------------------------------
He's not banned and never have been. No alt accounts on the ip either.
http://imgur.com/bpoP9Fw
Your angry about a person who never got banned?[/quote]
Two different people lol
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198058039226
ekunFairyand I met a nice fellow named Timeless!
http://tf2center.com/profile/76561198047912210
and that he had been banned from TF2C. Permanently.
-------------------------------------------------
He's not banned and never have been. No alt accounts on the ip either.
http://imgur.com/bpoP9Fw
Your angry about a person who never got banned?
Two different people lol
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198058039226
He has the Madvillainy album cover as his steam picture I like him already
[quote=ekun][quote=Fairy][i]and I met a nice fellow named Timeless![/i]
[b]http://tf2center.com/profile/76561198047912210[/b]
[i]and that he had been banned from TF2C. Permanently.[/i]
-------------------------------------------------
He's not banned and never have been. No alt accounts on the ip either.
http://imgur.com/bpoP9Fw
Your angry about a person who never got banned?[/quote]
Two different people lol
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198058039226[/quote]
He has the Madvillainy album cover as his steam picture I like him already
ekunFairyand I met a nice fellow named Timeless!
http://tf2center.com/profile/76561198047912210
and that he had been banned from TF2C. Permanently.
-------------------------------------------------
He's not banned and never have been. No alt accounts on the ip either.
http://imgur.com/bpoP9Fw
Your angry about a person who never got banned?
Two different people lol
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198058039226
thank you :3 I'll look into it. http://tf2center.com/profile/76561198058039226
2014-09-08 18:00:46 ban was issued. http://forums.tf2center.com/topic/2256-user-ulysses-wishing-harm-upon-another/
I also found the archive to why he additionally got banned. user http://snag.gy/4P6Ra.jpg
; he posted on center
AUSCHWITZ WAS A LIE
i am auschwitz
i havent masturbated this much since the holocaust!
my penis is only 4 inches
FUCK YOU ALBERA
FUCKING CUNT
ABUSIVE NIGGER FAGGOT
NAZI CUNT
finger fuck my cock hole
lol
ITS ALIVE
i cant ready up
ddddddddddddddd
LOLLERZ
IMA FUCK YOU IN THE ASS
thanks
cmon anne frank
be the opposite of the nazis
and heal some jews
just some of it..
[quote=ekun][quote=Fairy][i]and I met a nice fellow named Timeless![/i]
[b]http://tf2center.com/profile/76561198047912210[/b]
[i]and that he had been banned from TF2C. Permanently.[/i]
-------------------------------------------------
He's not banned and never have been. No alt accounts on the ip either.
http://imgur.com/bpoP9Fw
Your angry about a person who never got banned?[/quote]
Two different people lol
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198058039226[/quote]
thank you :3 I'll look into it. http://tf2center.com/profile/76561198058039226
2014-09-08 18:00:46 ban was issued. http://forums.tf2center.com/topic/2256-user-ulysses-wishing-harm-upon-another/
I also found the archive to why he additionally got banned. user http://snag.gy/4P6Ra.jpg
; he posted on center
AUSCHWITZ WAS A LIE
i am auschwitz
i havent masturbated this much since the holocaust!
my penis is only 4 inches
FUCK YOU ALBERA
FUCKING CUNT
ABUSIVE NIGGER FAGGOT
NAZI CUNT
finger fuck my cock hole
lol
ITS ALIVE
i cant ready up
ddddddddddddddd
LOLLERZ
IMA FUCK YOU IN THE ASS
thanks
cmon anne frank
be the opposite of the nazis
and heal some jews
just some of it..
tf2center admins are retarded but this has gotten to the point where nothing can come from discussion other than annoying circlejerking and admin dweebs whiteknighting their site.
also where the fuck did "___ is never funny or acceptable online" fags come from and can they please keep their twisted perspective to themselves?
tf2center admins are retarded but this has gotten to the point where nothing can come from discussion other than annoying circlejerking and admin dweebs whiteknighting their site.
also where the fuck did "___ is [b]never[/b] funny or acceptable online" fags come from and can they please keep their twisted perspective to themselves?
niveritf2center admins are retarded but this has gotten to the point where nothing can come from discussion other than annoying circlejerking and admin dweebs whiteknighting their site.
also where the fuck did "___ is never funny or acceptable online" fags come from and can they please keep their twisted perspective to themselves?
and since when is not finding someone telling another person to kill themselves funny/acceptable a twisted perspective? a lot of people have lost loved ones to suicide, and even those who haven't should be able to empathize with how that feels and understand that making light of suicide isn't generally an okay thing to do.
fyi i'd say this community has been taking steps to reduce toxicity for a while so maybe you're just out of the loop.
[quote=niveri]tf2center admins are retarded but this has gotten to the point where nothing can come from discussion other than annoying circlejerking and admin dweebs whiteknighting their site.
also where the fuck did "___ is [b]never[/b] funny or acceptable online" fags come from and can they please keep their twisted perspective to themselves?[/quote]
and since when is not finding someone telling another person to kill themselves funny/acceptable a twisted perspective? a lot of people have lost loved ones to suicide, and even those who haven't should be able to empathize with how that feels and understand that making light of suicide isn't generally an okay thing to do.
fyi i'd say this community has been taking steps to reduce toxicity for a while so maybe you're just out of the loop.
obe_niveritf2center admins are retarded but this has gotten to the point where nothing can come from discussion other than annoying circlejerking and admin dweebs whiteknighting their site.
also where the fuck did "___ is never funny or acceptable online" fags come from and can they please keep their twisted perspective to themselves?
and since when is not finding someone telling another person to kill themselves funny/acceptable a twisted perspective? a lot of people have lots loved ones to suicide, and even those who haven't should be able to empathize with how that feels and understand that making light of suicide isn't generally an okay thing to do.
fyi i'd say this community has been taking steps to reduce toxicity for a while so maybe you're just out of the loop.
you always show up to prove how fuckin enlightened you are on social issues and obviously read tumblr as a bible
starbucks is thattaway ->
[quote=obe_][quote=niveri]tf2center admins are retarded but this has gotten to the point where nothing can come from discussion other than annoying circlejerking and admin dweebs whiteknighting their site.
also where the fuck did "___ is [b]never[/b] funny or acceptable online" fags come from and can they please keep their twisted perspective to themselves?[/quote]
and since when is not finding someone telling another person to kill themselves funny/acceptable a twisted perspective? a lot of people have lots loved ones to suicide, and even those who haven't should be able to empathize with how that feels and understand that making light of suicide isn't generally an okay thing to do.
fyi i'd say this community has been taking steps to reduce toxicity for a while so maybe you're just out of the loop.[/quote]
you always show up to prove how fuckin enlightened you are on social issues and obviously read tumblr as a bible
starbucks is thattaway ->
FairyekunFairyand I met a nice fellow named Timeless!
http://tf2center.com/profile/76561198047912210
and that he had been banned from TF2C. Permanently.
-------------------------------------------------
He's not banned and never have been. No alt accounts on the ip either.
http://imgur.com/bpoP9Fw
Your angry about a person who never got banned?
Two different people lol
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198058039226
thank you :3 I'll look into it. http://tf2center.com/profile/76561198058039226
2014-09-08 18:00:46 ban was issued. http://forums.tf2center.com/topic/2256-user-ulysses-wishing-harm-upon-another/
I also found the archive to why he additionally got banned. user http://snag.gy/4P6Ra.jpg
; he posted on center
AUSCHWITZ WAS A LIE
i am auschwitz
i havent masturbated this much since the holocaust!
my penis is only 4 inches
FUCK YOU ALBERA
FUCKING CUNT
ABUSIVE NIGGER FAGGOT
NAZI CUNT
finger fuck my cock hole
lol
ITS ALIVE
i cant ready up
ddddddddddddddd
LOLLERZ
IMA FUCK YOU IN THE ASS
thanks
cmon anne frank
be the opposite of the nazis
and heal some jews
just some of it..
edit: my bad, I typed the number in wrong on steamfinder
[quote=Fairy][quote=ekun][quote=Fairy][i]and I met a nice fellow named Timeless![/i]
[b]http://tf2center.com/profile/76561198047912210[/b]
[i]and that he had been banned from TF2C. Permanently.[/i]
-------------------------------------------------
He's not banned and never have been. No alt accounts on the ip either.
http://imgur.com/bpoP9Fw
Your angry about a person who never got banned?[/quote]
Two different people lol
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198058039226[/quote]
thank you :3 I'll look into it. http://tf2center.com/profile/76561198058039226
2014-09-08 18:00:46 ban was issued. http://forums.tf2center.com/topic/2256-user-ulysses-wishing-harm-upon-another/
I also found the archive to why he additionally got banned. user http://snag.gy/4P6Ra.jpg
; he posted on center
AUSCHWITZ WAS A LIE
i am auschwitz
i havent masturbated this much since the holocaust!
my penis is only 4 inches
FUCK YOU ALBERA
FUCKING CUNT
ABUSIVE NIGGER FAGGOT
NAZI CUNT
finger fuck my cock hole
lol
ITS ALIVE
i cant ready up
ddddddddddddddd
LOLLERZ
IMA FUCK YOU IN THE ASS
thanks
cmon anne frank
be the opposite of the nazis
and heal some jews
just some of it..[/quote]
edit: my bad, I typed the number in wrong on steamfinder
CorsaFairyekunFairyand I met a nice fellow named Timeless!
http://tf2center.com/profile/76561198047912210
and that he had been banned from TF2C. Permanently.
-------------------------------------------------
He's not banned and never have been. No alt accounts on the ip either.
http://imgur.com/bpoP9Fw
Your angry about a person who never got banned?
Two different people lol
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198058039226
thank you :3 I'll look into it. http://tf2center.com/profile/76561198058039226
2014-09-08 18:00:46 ban was issued. http://forums.tf2center.com/topic/2256-user-ulysses-wishing-harm-upon-another/
I also found the archive to why he additionally got banned. user http://snag.gy/4P6Ra.jpg
; he posted on center
AUSCHWITZ WAS A LIE
i am auschwitz
i havent masturbated this much since the holocaust!
my penis is only 4 inches
FUCK YOU ALBERA
FUCKING CUNT
ABUSIVE NIGGER FAGGOT
NAZI CUNT
finger fuck my cock hole
lol
ITS ALIVE
i cant ready up
ddddddddddddddd
LOLLERZ
IMA FUCK YOU IN THE ASS
thanks
cmon anne frank
be the opposite of the nazis
and heal some jews
just some of it..
....you literally just used a different person again..................
--
nope go to - > http://steamidfinder.com/
Steam Name Ulysses
SteamID 76561198058039226
same person.
[quote=Corsa][quote=Fairy][quote=ekun][quote=Fairy][i]and I met a nice fellow named Timeless![/i]
[b]http://tf2center.com/profile/76561198047912210[/b]
[i]and that he had been banned from TF2C. Permanently.[/i]
-------------------------------------------------
He's not banned and never have been. No alt accounts on the ip either.
http://imgur.com/bpoP9Fw
Your angry about a person who never got banned?[/quote]
Two different people lol
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198058039226[/quote]
thank you :3 I'll look into it. http://tf2center.com/profile/76561198058039226
2014-09-08 18:00:46 ban was issued. http://forums.tf2center.com/topic/2256-user-ulysses-wishing-harm-upon-another/
I also found the archive to why he additionally got banned. user http://snag.gy/4P6Ra.jpg
; he posted on center
AUSCHWITZ WAS A LIE
i am auschwitz
i havent masturbated this much since the holocaust!
my penis is only 4 inches
FUCK YOU ALBERA
FUCKING CUNT
ABUSIVE NIGGER FAGGOT
NAZI CUNT
finger fuck my cock hole
lol
ITS ALIVE
i cant ready up
ddddddddddddddd
LOLLERZ
IMA FUCK YOU IN THE ASS
thanks
cmon anne frank
be the opposite of the nazis
and heal some jews
just some of it..[/quote]
....you literally just used a different person again..................[/quote]
--
nope go to - > http://steamidfinder.com/
Steam Name Ulysses
SteamID 76561198058039226
same person.