Ond_kajaAre you allowed to pick up other weapons?
The medi-gun ruling will be forced by plugin (...unless sm starts breaking everything) so that's going to stop that currently (using tf_dropped_weapon_lifetime).
Is there a way to allow pickups other than the medi guns? If so, it's what i'd prefer to do but i'm not sure there is currently (?) - you probably know more than I do.
[quote=Ond_kaja]Are you allowed to pick up other weapons?[/quote]
The medi-gun ruling will be forced by plugin (...unless sm starts breaking everything) so that's going to stop that currently (using tf_dropped_weapon_lifetime).
Is there a way to allow pickups other than the medi guns? If so, it's what i'd prefer to do but i'm not sure there is currently (?) - you probably know more than I do.
No you can't disable weapon type pickups. We were discussing doing it like that for the nations cup / following HL and 6s seasons,
We came to the conclusion that if this is a functionality that Valve has implemented and can't be disabled via a config then we should try to adapt to that.
Next few cups and seasons will have pickup enabled, so i55 disabling it is a bit odd.
No you can't disable weapon type pickups. We were discussing doing it like that for the nations cup / following HL and 6s seasons,
We came to the conclusion that if this is a functionality that Valve has implemented and can't be disabled via a config then we should try to adapt to that.
Next few cups and seasons will have pickup enabled, so i55 disabling it is a bit odd.
I think it's better to possibly ruin a few online cups than it is to possibly ruin of the most important events in the history of TF2
I think it's better to possibly ruin a few online cups than it is to possibly ruin of the most important events in the history of TF2
kKaltUuNo you can't disable weapon type pickups. We were discussing doing it like that for the nations cup / following HL and 6s seasons,
We came to the conclusion that if this is a functionality that Valve has implemented and can't be disabled via a config then we should try to adapt to that.
Next few cups and seasons will have pickup enabled, so i55 disabling it is a bit odd.
Weapon drops were disabled in retf2 somehow.
[quote=kKaltUu]No you can't disable weapon type pickups. We were discussing doing it like that for the nations cup / following HL and 6s seasons,
We came to the conclusion that if this is a functionality that Valve has implemented and can't be disabled via a config then we should try to adapt to that.
Next few cups and seasons will have pickup enabled, so i55 disabling it is a bit odd.[/quote]
Weapon drops were disabled in retf2 somehow.
Allowing uber pickups is dumb as fuck. The few times we played with it, if your med died on mid and your team lost the mid even if you killed the other teams medic. The other team got mid and picked up their/your medics uber and pushed last with ~70% uber advantage.
Allowing uber pickups is dumb as fuck. The few times we played with it, if your med died on mid and your team lost the mid even if you killed the other teams medic. The other team got mid and picked up their/your medics uber and pushed last with ~70% uber advantage.
kKaltUuNext few cups and seasons will have pickup enabled, so i55 disabling it is a bit odd.
I don't think it's odd to avoid being one of the first as it's a position of risk. I'd be more inclined if this wasn't a once-a-year event under the biggest spotlight. I think we should be adapting, which is why ideally i'd have liked to have seen more play up to now but that's not really happened. I'm just listening to the chorus line and if that avoids the crazy snowballing that this enables then i'm happy enough.
[quote=kKaltUu]
Next few cups and seasons will have pickup enabled, so i55 disabling it is a bit odd.[/quote]
I don't think it's odd to avoid being one of the first as it's a position of risk. I'd be more inclined if this wasn't a once-a-year event under the biggest spotlight. I think we should be adapting, which is why ideally i'd have liked to have seen more play up to now but that's not really happened. I'm just listening to the chorus line and if that avoids the crazy snowballing that this enables then i'm happy enough.
rage1kKaltUuNo you can't disable weapon type pickups. We were discussing doing it like that for the nations cup / following HL and 6s seasons,
We came to the conclusion that if this is a functionality that Valve has implemented and can't be disabled via a config then we should try to adapt to that.
Next few cups and seasons will have pickup enabled, so i55 disabling it is a bit odd.
Weapon drops were disabled in retf2 somehow.
Picking up weapons worked fine for us
[quote=rage1][quote=kKaltUu]No you can't disable weapon type pickups. We were discussing doing it like that for the nations cup / following HL and 6s seasons,
We came to the conclusion that if this is a functionality that Valve has implemented and can't be disabled via a config then we should try to adapt to that.
Next few cups and seasons will have pickup enabled, so i55 disabling it is a bit odd.[/quote]
Weapon drops were disabled in retf2 somehow.[/quote]
Picking up weapons worked fine for us
kKaltUuNext few cups and seasons will have pickup enabled, so i55 disabling it is a bit odd.
do you not see how broken it is?
[quote=kKaltUu]
Next few cups and seasons will have pickup enabled, so i55 disabling it is a bit odd.[/quote]
do you not see how broken it is?
Allowing medigun pickups is the most retarded mechanic in TF2. There's basically no point in dropping a medic anymore simply because they can just pick it back up. It would be different if the uber degenerates over the time its on the ground or if the drop instantly loses 50% uber.
Allowing medigun pickups is the most retarded mechanic in TF2. There's basically no point in dropping a medic anymore simply because they can just pick it back up. It would be different if the uber degenerates over the time its on the ground or if the drop instantly loses 50% uber.
ShooshThere's basically no point in dropping a medic anymore simply because they can just pick it back up.
you realize you can pick up their gun too right? any medic that isnt retarded is going to realize this
[quote=Shoosh]There's basically no point in dropping a medic anymore simply because they can just pick it back up. [/quote]
you realize you can pick up their gun too right? any medic that isnt retarded is going to realize this
THEBILLDOZERShooshThere's basically no point in dropping a medic anymore simply because they can just pick it back up.
you realize you can pick up their gun too right? any medic that isnt retarded is going to realize this
That doesnt make it any less broken, only more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj2UtImETcU
[quote=THEBILLDOZER][quote=Shoosh]There's basically no point in dropping a medic anymore simply because they can just pick it back up. [/quote]
you realize you can pick up their gun too right? any medic that isnt retarded is going to realize this[/quote]
That doesnt make it any less broken, only more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj2UtImETcU
Guys, we need tournaments upon tournaments of PROOF that picking up an enemy medic's medigun is a bad mechanic.
As was said earlier, both teams can pick up an enemy's medigun, therefore balancing the mechanic.
Guys, we need tournaments upon tournaments of PROOF that picking up an enemy medic's medigun is a bad mechanic.
As was said earlier, [b]both[/b] teams can pick up an enemy's medigun, [b]therefore balancing the mechanic[/b].
clckwrkAs was said earlier, both teams can pick up an enemy's medigun, therefore balancing the mechanic.
I don't know if this is sarcasm but just because both teams can abuse it doesn't mean it's balanced with the other aspects of the meta
[quote=clckwrk]
As was said earlier, [b]both[/b] teams can pick up an enemy's medigun, [b]therefore balancing the mechanic[/b].[/quote]
I don't know if this is sarcasm but just because both teams can abuse it doesn't mean it's balanced with the other aspects of the meta
didnt we say that about the quickfix
didnt we say that about the quickfix
Hellbentdidnt we say that about the quickfix
That was before teams went full turtle with Heavies.
[quote=Hellbent]didnt we say that about the quickfix[/quote]
That was before teams went full turtle with Heavies.
clckwrkGuys, we need tournaments upon tournaments of PROOF that picking up an enemy medic's medigun is a bad mechanic.
As was said earlier, both teams can pick up an enemy's medigun, therefore balancing the mechanic.
Depends on how you define "balance".
If you mean "no team has an advantage other than the skills that they have practiced/reflexes/etc." then sure, it's balanced.
If you go with the more common definition in gaming, that it makes the game more fun for more people, then most people would say no, it's not balanced.
[quote=clckwrk]Guys, we need tournaments upon tournaments of PROOF that picking up an enemy medic's medigun is a bad mechanic.
As was said earlier, [b]both[/b] teams can pick up an enemy's medigun, [b]therefore balancing the mechanic[/b].[/quote]
Depends on how you define "balance".
If you mean "no team has an advantage other than the skills that they have practiced/reflexes/etc." then sure, it's balanced.
If you go with the more common definition in gaming, that it makes the game more fun for more people, then most people would say no, it's not balanced.
It is the same logic we use to allow the scout class. The class is overpowered, it is stupid. How can other classes compete when all scouts have to do is click. However, both teams can use the scout, therefore balancing the class. Allow picking up mediguns at i55 please
[b]It is the same logic we use to allow the scout class. The class is overpowered, it is stupid. How can other classes compete when all scouts have to do is click. However, both teams can use the scout, therefore balancing the class. Allow picking up mediguns at i55 please[/b]
^ good stuff right there clock
^ good stuff right there clock
clckwrkIt is the same logic we use to allow the scout class. The class is overpowered, it is stupid. How can other classes compete when all scouts have to do is click. However, both teams can use the scout, therefore balancing the class. Allow picking up mediguns at i55 please
Except the team that kills the medic can have two mediguns with uber. There's never a case of one team having 3 or 4 scouts.
[quote=clckwrk][b]It is the same logic we use to allow the scout class. The class is overpowered, it is stupid. How can other classes compete when all scouts have to do is click. However, both teams can use the scout, therefore balancing the class. Allow picking up mediguns at i55 please[/b][/quote]
Except the team that kills the medic can have two mediguns with uber. There's never a case of one team having 3 or 4 scouts.
why are there even other classes all u need are scouts
why are there even other classes all u need are scouts
What's most important is the game flows fine with it. Sure, things are balanced in the sense that both teams are equal, but that doesn't mean it's a good addition. You could make that argument over pretty literally everything, but here we are with weapon bans and whatnot.
Quickfix was dumb because teams weren't used to it. It's not a problem now, but it was back when it got buffed originally because people weren't aware of how to properly respond to it. I don't think anyone wants something similar to happen at i55 with a team rolling the competition solely because they've scrimmed with pickups more than any other team, even if that's a small risk.
A year from now we'll probably call ourselves dumb for disagreeing with medigun pickups. That's for i58 though, right now it's still a new mechanic that could potentially shake things up badly.
What's most important is the game flows fine with it. Sure, things are balanced in the sense that both teams are equal, but that doesn't mean it's a good addition. You could make that argument over pretty literally everything, but here we are with weapon bans and whatnot.
Quickfix was dumb because teams weren't used to it. It's not a problem now, but it was back when it got buffed originally because people weren't aware of how to properly respond to it. I don't think anyone wants something similar to happen at i55 with a team rolling the competition solely because they've scrimmed with pickups more than any other team, even if that's a small risk.
A year from now we'll probably call ourselves dumb for disagreeing with medigun pickups. That's for i58 though, right now it's still a new mechanic that could potentially shake things up badly.
how do people always miss the blatant clockwork sarcasm
I mean he's even gone and made it bold for you guys
how do people always miss the blatant clockwork sarcasm
I mean he's even gone and made it bold for you guys
From an average player to you super human TF2 players. I love watching your games, and really looking forward to i55. Wish you all the best in the matches!
From an average player to you super human TF2 players. I love watching your games, and really looking forward to i55. Wish you all the best in the matches!
Hey does anyone know or have an idea of what time the grand finals will start and end on Sunday? Would be really helpful to know for work related stuff.
Hey does anyone know or have an idea of what time the grand finals will start and end on Sunday? Would be really helpful to know for work related stuff.
SheepylolHey does anyone know or have an idea of what time the grand finals will start and end on Sunday? Would be really helpful to know for work related stuff.
theres no way that a person like you has a job
[quote=Sheepylol]Hey does anyone know or have an idea of what time the grand finals will start and end on Sunday? Would be really helpful to know for work related stuff.[/quote]
theres no way that a person like you has a job
torrittheres no way that a person like you has a job
haha of course not. My dad found one though and he needs to drive me there and back. So it would be nice to know when the grand finals finish up so we know what time we are getting back (he has work on Monday).
[quote=torrit]
theres no way that a person like you has a job[/quote]
haha of course not. My dad found one though and he needs to drive me there and back. So it would be nice to know when the grand finals finish up so we know what time we are getting back (he has work on Monday).
I believe Kaptain also has to catch a flight in the afternoon so the finals were some time around ~1pm? Can't quite remember but it wasn't planned to be in the evening so you should be fine to get back to scotland for your dad's work in the morning.
I believe Kaptain also has to catch a flight in the afternoon so the finals were some time around ~1pm? Can't quite remember but it wasn't planned to be in the evening so you should be fine to get back to scotland for your dad's work in the morning.
Sheepyloltorrittheres no way that a person like you has a job
haha of course not. My dad found one though and he needs to drive me there and back. So it would be nice to know when the grand finals finish up so we know what time we are getting back (he has work on Monday).
also, why dont you give a lift to forsak3n fam? im afraid that he might get lost 2 metres down his front door
[quote=Sheepylol][quote=torrit]
theres no way that a person like you has a job[/quote]
haha of course not. My dad found one though and he needs to drive me there and back. So it would be nice to know when the grand finals finish up so we know what time we are getting back (he has work on Monday).[/quote]
also, why dont you give a lift to forsak3n fam? im afraid that he might get lost 2 metres down his front door