https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fri9uy9gSw8

this video is also pretty interesting!

I remember when this whole ordeal/witch hunt was going on, #5 was the only one that actually could convince me that he was hacking; it was unbelievably blatant imo. That being said, he probably did stop after the whole scare happened.

Go watch your own demos and enable wirehack. See how many times your crosshair locks onto another player from behind a wall. It's a lot.

Alright so I looked over the Olof demos and the Flusha demos from the finals. I saw about 6-7 clips from Flusha that looked sorta sketch. On the Olof POV (keep in mind he's the best player in the world) I saw 1 clip that looked even remotely flusha-like

Idk it's just what I think I guess it's an opinion

i mean he's not hacking, there's no good way to do it at these majors now and there are referees all over the place

maybe it's just something about his playstyle that seems weird to you?

People were shitting bricks about this clip of ex6tenZ two months ago. They were already riled up because of the NiP comeback after a questionable pause. IDK how you can call that one off, he wasn't even shooting into the smoke:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlK1iSIqOac

nahhh i don't agree. You're really underestimating how little thought some people put into this kind of stuff. There are times when you run into people who think someone just lining up his crosshair on a wall where someone happened to be hiding around is a cheat. But if you watch the video cozen linked or even watched some of the clips with some understanding of the situation behind them, it's just weird, man. He either had the best like echolocation skills in the world on some of the clips or got extremely lucky in all the other ones. The one that stuck out to me the most was the inferno clip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upI8NYFzhkw

If you watch that, it's one of three things: his crosshair luckily jumped while shooting the other guy, the recoil decided it wanted fnatic to win, or the cheat that supposedly "goes the extra inch" or whatever for you kicked in on someone he didn't know was there.

There's definitely a ton of witchhunting and theorycrafting but I think it's fun. Shox in particular had a video leaked where he talked about it and I agreed with everything he said before I even heard it (and he used the inferno one as an example). Maybe it's that the game seems fishier in general than TF2, but being comparable in TF2 to the skill level that shox has CS, I just sort of know when something is off and I can tell people might not be legit just by the way they're handling some situations and the way the crosshair is moving in TF2, which is why I even found a lot of the rep clips in that video to be suspect before he was banned.

This post is purely for discussion's sake, I don't even think he's cheating anymore and I'm not even positive that he was before, but I think it's an interesting thing to take into consideration

I think it is more interesting that some people have cheated at LANs with people seeing what's going on someone pls explain

panic button with no hud. configure cheat before lan, load into w/e driver, have it set to activate and run invisibly, hit panic button.

Apparently I got a drop from VP vs Fnatic on cobble, signed by Pronax

Sold it for ez $29 8) ty esports

so do you guys actually think flusha cheats

DID. If he still is cheating now, which I doubt, he'd actually be one of the stupidest people on earth.

Yeah I genuinely do think he did and still does cheat. I watch a demo of his every once in a while and you still see a lot of the same things. It's not at blatant as the mirage, inferno clips but the stuff is similar in many ways. I usually compare them to players like olof and device and you almost never see stuff like this

People actually think flusha still cheats?