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Organization approaches TF2 teams for Overwatch
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http://www.dailydot.com/esports/tempo-storm-team-fortress-2-froyotech/

tl;dr: a new esports org called Tempo Storm offered some high level TF2 teams for an Overwatch sponsorship, but the deal was turned down

Pretty interesting, since some orgs know about high level tf2, and it looks risky to try to get a team without knowing how it'll play out

Thoughts?

http://www.dailydot.com/esports/tempo-storm-team-fortress-2-froyotech/

tl;dr: a new esports org called Tempo Storm offered some high level TF2 teams for an Overwatch sponsorship, but the deal was turned down

Pretty interesting, since some orgs know about high level tf2, and it looks risky to try to get a team without knowing how it'll play out

Thoughts?
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tempo storm isn't a particularly new org, they have teams in hearthstone and hots so it makes sense they would want to get into overwatch

tempo storm isn't a particularly new org, they have teams in hearthstone and hots so it makes sense they would want to get into overwatch
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It has happened in Brazil. Last year a brazilian org (AceZone) approached MONSTER because of Overwatch, but the beta took too long to start and they gave up

It has happened in Brazil. Last year a brazilian org (AceZone) approached MONSTER because of Overwatch, but the beta took too long to start and they gave up
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rofl i swear to god i was thinking of this shit too because reynad was saying on stream that he wanted to have a footing in overwatch early

not a surprising move but really interesting

rofl i swear to god i was thinking of this shit too because reynad was saying on stream that he wanted to have a footing in overwatch early

not a surprising move but really interesting
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Why did they turn it down

Why did they turn it down
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EvrewsWhy did they turn it down

because it doesnt have cp_badlands

[quote=Evrews]Why did they turn it down[/quote]

because it doesnt have cp_badlands
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EvrewsWhy did they turn it down

2-year-contract. If the game gets big enough and they get good enough at it, they will be locked into a shit contract for 2 years. It's a risky move for both parties, the players just don't want to risk it.

[quote=Evrews]Why did they turn it down[/quote]
2-year-contract. If the game gets big enough and they get good enough at it, they will be locked into a shit contract for 2 years. It's a risky move for both parties, the players just don't want to risk it.
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EvrewsWhy did they turn it down

If Overwatch is as big as people are thinking it could be then that contract was pretty awful. If you look at CS:GO most teams have salaries now so signing on for 2 years without one could fuck them over in the long run

how many times can i get ninja'ed today fuck

[quote=Evrews]Why did they turn it down[/quote]

If Overwatch is as big as people are thinking it could be then that contract was pretty awful. If you look at CS:GO most teams have salaries now so signing on for 2 years without one could fuck them over in the long run


how many times can i get ninja'ed today fuck
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Ye TS isn't new by any means, they had an NA Invite CS team a few months ago, and they sponsor Axe and Westballz in melee

It just really bothers me that orgs are trying to sponsor teams already when the beta hasn't even happened, let alone the full game. Like I understand tf2 is supposed to be similar to OW, but shouldn't you want a team that's proven good at OW?

Ye TS isn't new by any means, they had an NA Invite CS team a few months ago, and they sponsor Axe and Westballz in melee

It just really bothers me that orgs are trying to sponsor teams already when the beta hasn't even happened, let alone the full game. Like I understand tf2 is supposed to be similar to OW, but shouldn't you want a team that's proven good at OW?
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TwilitlordLike I understand tf2 is supposed to be similar to OW, but shouldn't you want a team that's proven good at OW?

I think before any TF2 teams prove themselves to be good at OverWatch, the game itself needs to prove to be a good competitive game in the first place, haha.

This kind of a move seems less like putting the cart before the horse, and more like putting the schematics of a prototype cart before the horse.

[quote=Twilitlord]Like I understand tf2 is supposed to be similar to OW, but shouldn't you want a team that's proven good at OW?[/quote]

I think before any TF2 teams prove themselves to be good at OverWatch, the game itself needs to prove to be a good competitive game in the first place, haha.

This kind of a move seems less like putting the cart before the horse, and more like putting the schematics of a prototype cart before the horse.
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TwilitlordYe TS isn't new by any means, they had an NA Invite CS team a few months ago, and they sponsor Axe and Westballz in melee

It just really bothers me that orgs are trying to sponsor teams already when the beta hasn't even happened, let alone the full game. Like I understand tf2 is supposed to be similar to OW, but shouldn't you want a team that's proven good at OW?

From what I understand, the risk that the org aforementioned (Tempo Storm) is taking is not very big, with potential to give them a lot more than what they've risked, so even if the team/the game doesn't turn out to be successful, they wouldn't lose that much.

[quote=Twilitlord]Ye TS isn't new by any means, they had an NA Invite CS team a few months ago, and they sponsor Axe and Westballz in melee

It just really bothers me that orgs are trying to sponsor teams already when the beta hasn't even happened, let alone the full game. Like I understand tf2 is supposed to be similar to OW, but shouldn't you want a team that's proven good at OW?[/quote]

From what I understand, the risk that the org aforementioned (Tempo Storm) is taking is not very big, with potential to give them a lot more than what they've risked, so even if the team/the game doesn't turn out to be successful, they wouldn't lose that much.
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DeathyTwilitlordYe TS isn't new by any means, they had an NA Invite CS team a few months ago, and they sponsor Axe and Westballz in melee

It just really bothers me that orgs are trying to sponsor teams already when the beta hasn't even happened, let alone the full game. Like I understand tf2 is supposed to be similar to OW, but shouldn't you want a team that's proven good at OW?

From what I understand, the risk that the org aforementioned (Tempo Storm) is taking is not very big, with potential to give them a lot more than what they've risked, so even if the team/the game doesn't turn out to be successful, they wouldn't lose that much.

it's still a risk they're taking that could be severely mitigated by waiting at the very least a couple days until the beta releases, instead of reaching out to teams that have only proven themselves in a completely different game. Not to discredit 4g or reason, but they're still tf2 teams, not overwatch teams.

[quote=Deathy][quote=Twilitlord]Ye TS isn't new by any means, they had an NA Invite CS team a few months ago, and they sponsor Axe and Westballz in melee

It just really bothers me that orgs are trying to sponsor teams already when the beta hasn't even happened, let alone the full game. Like I understand tf2 is supposed to be similar to OW, but shouldn't you want a team that's proven good at OW?[/quote]

From what I understand, the risk that the org aforementioned (Tempo Storm) is taking is not very big, with potential to give them a lot more than what they've risked, so even if the team/the game doesn't turn out to be successful, they wouldn't lose that much.[/quote]
it's still a risk they're taking that could be severely mitigated by waiting at the very least a couple days until the beta releases, instead of reaching out to teams that have only proven themselves in a completely different game. Not to discredit 4g or reason, but they're still tf2 teams, not overwatch teams.
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even if overwatch is a bad game, you know for the beginning of the game's life cycle blizzard is gonna pump some of that $$$ into trying to get it started

even if overwatch is a bad game, you know for the beginning of the game's life cycle blizzard is gonna pump some of that $$$ into trying to get it started
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DeathyTwilitlordYe TS isn't new by any means, they had an NA Invite CS team a few months ago, and they sponsor Axe and Westballz in melee

It just really bothers me that orgs are trying to sponsor teams already when the beta hasn't even happened, let alone the full game. Like I understand tf2 is supposed to be similar to OW, but shouldn't you want a team that's proven good at OW?

From what I understand, the risk that the org aforementioned (Tempo Storm) is taking is not very big, with potential to give them a lot more than what they've risked, so even if the team/the game doesn't turn out to be successful, they wouldn't lose that much.

Locked into a 2 year no salary contract isn't really getting a lot.

Imagine if a CS team had locked into that 2 years ago when the game was still small they would be kicking themselves.

[quote=Deathy][quote=Twilitlord]Ye TS isn't new by any means, they had an NA Invite CS team a few months ago, and they sponsor Axe and Westballz in melee

It just really bothers me that orgs are trying to sponsor teams already when the beta hasn't even happened, let alone the full game. Like I understand tf2 is supposed to be similar to OW, but shouldn't you want a team that's proven good at OW?[/quote]

From what I understand, the risk that the org aforementioned (Tempo Storm) is taking is not very big, with potential to give them a lot more than what they've risked, so even if the team/the game doesn't turn out to be successful, they wouldn't lose that much.[/quote]

Locked into a 2 year no salary contract isn't really getting a lot.

Imagine if a CS team had locked into that 2 years ago when the game was still small they would be kicking themselves.
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saamDeathyTwilitlordYe TS isn't new by any means, they had an NA Invite CS team a few months ago, and they sponsor Axe and Westballz in melee

It just really bothers me that orgs are trying to sponsor teams already when the beta hasn't even happened, let alone the full game. Like I understand tf2 is supposed to be similar to OW, but shouldn't you want a team that's proven good at OW?

From what I understand, the risk that the org aforementioned (Tempo Storm) is taking is not very big, with potential to give them a lot more than what they've risked, so even if the team/the game doesn't turn out to be successful, they wouldn't lose that much.

Locked into a 2 year no salary contract isn't really getting a lot.

Imagine if a CS team had locked into that 2 years ago when the game was still small they would be kicking themselves.

the org is getting a lot not the players

[quote=saam][quote=Deathy][quote=Twilitlord]Ye TS isn't new by any means, they had an NA Invite CS team a few months ago, and they sponsor Axe and Westballz in melee

It just really bothers me that orgs are trying to sponsor teams already when the beta hasn't even happened, let alone the full game. Like I understand tf2 is supposed to be similar to OW, but shouldn't you want a team that's proven good at OW?[/quote]

From what I understand, the risk that the org aforementioned (Tempo Storm) is taking is not very big, with potential to give them a lot more than what they've risked, so even if the team/the game doesn't turn out to be successful, they wouldn't lose that much.[/quote]

Locked into a 2 year no salary contract isn't really getting a lot.

Imagine if a CS team had locked into that 2 years ago when the game was still small they would be kicking themselves.[/quote]
the org is getting a lot not the players
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DreamboatEvrewsWhy did they turn it down
because it doesnt have cp_badlands

http://i.imgur.com/HIcoXMa.gif

[quote=Dreamboat][quote=Evrews]Why did they turn it down[/quote]

because it doesnt have cp_badlands[/quote]

[img]http://i.imgur.com/HIcoXMa.gif[/img]
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not sure if i was the only one not aware of it, but there's a comp overwatch subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/competitiveoverwatch

not sure if i was the only one not aware of it, but there's a comp overwatch subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/competitiveoverwatch
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Would that be the best place to look for a team when Overwatch launches you think?

Would that be the best place to look for a team when Overwatch launches you think?
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AvastWould that be the best place to look for a team when Overwatch launches you think?

i believe there will be forums and stuff for that... but the discussions there might be worth to read once it comes out...

[quote=Avast]Would that be the best place to look for a team when Overwatch launches you think?[/quote]

i believe there will be forums and stuff for that... but the discussions there might be worth to read once it comes out...
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Tempo Storm first approached the winningest team in Team Fortress 2, Froyotechwinningest

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d3/e0/a1/d3e0a1221de8cca4601b8885af1b6f39.jpg

Late edit:

owlthat's a word buddy, sorry your vocab is lacking

no, no it's not. It's only used informally in and around North America. Americanisation =/= proper English word

[quote]Tempo Storm first approached the winningest team in Team Fortress 2, Froyotech[/quote]
[quote]winningest[/quote]

[img]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d3/e0/a1/d3e0a1221de8cca4601b8885af1b6f39.jpg[/img]

Late edit:
[quote=owl]that's a word buddy, sorry your vocab is lacking[/quote]

no, no it's not. It's only used informally in and around North America. Americanisation =/= proper English word
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that's a word buddy, sorry your vocab is lacking

that's a word buddy, sorry your vocab is lacking
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nopeTempo Storm first approached the winningest team in Team Fortress 2, Froyotechwinningest
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d3/e0/a1/d3e0a1221de8cca4601b8885af1b6f39.jpg

im p sure winningest is a word

edit fuck always ninjad

[quote=nope][quote]Tempo Storm first approached the winningest team in Team Fortress 2, Froyotech[/quote]
[quote]winningest[/quote]

[img]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d3/e0/a1/d3e0a1221de8cca4601b8885af1b6f39.jpg[/img][/quote]

im p sure winningest is a word

edit fuck always ninjad
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2 year contract? That's pretty insane, especially for a game that hasn't been released yet.

2 year contract? That's pretty insane, especially for a game that hasn't been released yet.
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owlthat's a word buddy, sorry your vocab is lacking

Is there a post on this damn forum you don't read

Posts 3399 (3 per day)

[quote=owl]that's a word buddy, sorry your vocab is lacking[/quote]


Is there a post on this damn forum you don't read

Posts 3399 (3 per day)
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Red_owlthat's a word buddy, sorry your vocab is lacking
Is there a post on this damn forum you don't read

Posts 3399 (3 per day)

owl literally sits with tf.tv open on at least 2 different devices, everytime he stops to breath he refreshes tf.tv and has every subforum on the sidebar.

this is only very slight exaggeration, might be once every 1-2 minutes.

[quote=Red_][quote=owl]that's a word buddy, sorry your vocab is lacking[/quote]


Is there a post on this damn forum you don't read

Posts 3399 (3 per day)[/quote]
owl literally sits with tf.tv open on at least 2 different devices, everytime he stops to breath he refreshes tf.tv and has every subforum on the sidebar.

this is only very slight exaggeration, might be once every 1-2 minutes.
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Red_owlthat's a word buddy, sorry your vocab is lacking
Is there a post on this damn forum you don't read

Posts 3399 (3 per day)

you have over 700 posts and 1/3 of a nerd star???

[quote=Red_][quote=owl]that's a word buddy, sorry your vocab is lacking[/quote]


Is there a post on this damn forum you don't read

Posts 3399 (3 per day)[/quote]

you have over 700 posts and 1/3 of a nerd star???
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Today's word of the day is: winningest

winningest (adj): having the greatest number of wins : most successful

Today's word of the day is: winningest

winningest (adj): having the greatest number of wins : most successful
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Air_Red_owlthat's a word buddy, sorry your vocab is lacking
Is there a post on this damn forum you don't read

Posts 3399 (3 per day)
owl literally sits with tf.tv open on at least 2 different devices, everytime he stops to breath he refreshes tf.tv and has every subforum on the sidebar.

this is only very slight exaggeration, might be once every 1-2 minutes.

the only time i'm not actively browsing tftv is when i'm sleeping from 8 AM to 4 PM

[quote=Air_][quote=Red_][quote=owl]that's a word buddy, sorry your vocab is lacking[/quote]


Is there a post on this damn forum you don't read

Posts 3399 (3 per day)[/quote]
owl literally sits with tf.tv open on at least 2 different devices, everytime he stops to breath he refreshes tf.tv and has every subforum on the sidebar.

this is only very slight exaggeration, might be once every 1-2 minutes.[/quote]

the only time i'm not actively browsing tftv is when i'm sleeping from 8 AM to 4 PM
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Air_owl literally sits with tf.tv open on at least 2 different devices, everytime he stops to breath he refreshes tf.tv and has every subforum on the sidebar.

is that not the norm?

[quote=Air_]owl literally sits with tf.tv open on at least 2 different devices, everytime he stops to breath he refreshes tf.tv and has every subforum on the sidebar.[/quote]
is that not the norm?
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I'm quite surprised to see this happen as I am quite a fan of Tempo Storm and Reynad. I find it very interesting that an org as big as them would recognize TF2 players at all, so I see this a bit of a positive. But yeah definitely not the greatest deal. But I think when and if it happens where TF2 gets MM and more support for competitive, Overwatch and TF2 are pretty much near competing games that would be interesting to see.

I'm quite surprised to see this happen as I am quite a fan of Tempo Storm and Reynad. I find it very interesting that an org as big as them would recognize TF2 players at all, so I see this a bit of a positive. But yeah definitely not the greatest deal. But I think when and if it happens where TF2 gets MM and more support for competitive, Overwatch and TF2 are pretty much near competing games that would be interesting to see.
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