Just recently, I decided that my processor is too slow and I really want to overclock it. I hear that overclocking something too much will destroy your computer so I was wondering how much I could overclock my processor to.
Right now, my processor is an AMD Phenom II X6 1035T(A 6 core at ~2.6 Ghz atm). Any idea on how much I could overclock to without destroying my computer?
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Just recently, I decided that my processor is too slow and I really want to overclock it. I hear that overclocking something too much will destroy your computer so I was wondering how much I could overclock my processor to.
Right now, my processor is an AMD Phenom II X6 1035T(A 6 core at ~2.6 Ghz atm). Any idea on how much I could overclock to without destroying my computer?
Right now, my processor is an AMD Phenom II X6 1035T(A 6 core at ~2.6 Ghz atm). Any idea on how much I could overclock to without destroying my computer?
How good is your cooling system? Stock fan? An aftermarket, better fan? I think 3.0 should definitely be safe, then 3.2-3.4 probably safe.
How good is your cooling system? Stock fan? An aftermarket, better fan? I think 3.0 should definitely be safe, then 3.2-3.4 probably safe.
It might be a bit tough for you if you haven't overclocked before. The chip you have has a locked cpu multiplier, so if you do overclock it, you will be doing so by incrementing a base frequency which also affects other components in your system.
Do some googling and read up about how the non black edition chips work with respect to overclocking. If you do learn enough to overclock your cpu, I'd say not to go too far above the recommended voltage for your chip, or keep it as a limit if you want to be safe. Wikipedia says the range for your chip is 0.975 - 1.425 V.
edit: low temperatures are good too. < 70 load i guess
It might be a bit tough for you if you haven't overclocked before. The chip you have has a locked cpu multiplier, so if you do overclock it, you will be doing so by incrementing a base frequency which also affects other components in your system.
Do some googling and read up about how the non black edition chips work with respect to overclocking. If you do learn enough to overclock your cpu, I'd say not to go too far above the recommended voltage for your chip, or keep it as a limit if you want to be safe. Wikipedia says the range for your chip is 0.975 - 1.425 V.
edit: low temperatures are good too. < 70 load i guess
Do some googling and read up about how the non black edition chips work with respect to overclocking. If you do learn enough to overclock your cpu, I'd say not to go too far above the recommended voltage for your chip, or keep it as a limit if you want to be safe. Wikipedia says the range for your chip is 0.975 - 1.425 V.
edit: low temperatures are good too. < 70 load i guess
Overclocking also has a lot to do with your particular CPU.
I have an i7 2600K, and there are tons of stories of people taking them to 4.2-4.4 ghz on air cooling. Well when I overclock, I like to do lots of stability testing to make sure the processor is stable. On my particular processor, one of my cores is not stable past 3.8 ghz no matter what I do. The other three are stable past 4. So I just dont take it over 3.8 ghz.
Overclocking also has a lot to do with your particular CPU.
I have an i7 2600K, and there are tons of stories of people taking them to 4.2-4.4 ghz on air cooling. Well when I overclock, I like to do lots of stability testing to make sure the processor is stable. On my particular processor, one of my cores is not stable past 3.8 ghz no matter what I do. The other three are stable past 4. So I just dont take it over 3.8 ghz.
I have an i7 2600K, and there are tons of stories of people taking them to 4.2-4.4 ghz on air cooling. Well when I overclock, I like to do lots of stability testing to make sure the processor is stable. On my particular processor, one of my cores is not stable past 3.8 ghz no matter what I do. The other three are stable past 4. So I just dont take it over 3.8 ghz.
Just look up tutorials for your processor, but don't shoot for the higher overclock that the tutorial will suggest straight away. Try somewhere half way and work your way up until you can't boot into Windows anymore. Back it down, boot into Windows, and stress test. Keep backing it down until stress tests don't fail or cause BSOD's.
Just look up tutorials for your processor, but don't shoot for the higher overclock that the tutorial will suggest straight away. Try somewhere half way and work your way up until you can't boot into Windows anymore. Back it down, boot into Windows, and stress test. Keep backing it down until stress tests don't fail or cause BSOD's.
Sorry for asking so many questions, I just want better performance from my computer.
@browny: My new fan doesn't make me feel the heat emitting from my comp anymore if that's what you're saying.
@sizzling: I read some guides on how to overclock and the potential for it. Would you think something around 3.4-3.6 would be fine, assuming that my computer never heats up anymore with my "aftermarket" fan.
@trekkie How would you do a stability test and what would let it qualify as stable?
Sorry for asking so many questions, I just want better performance from my computer.
@browny: My new fan doesn't make me feel the heat emitting from my comp anymore if that's what you're saying.
@sizzling: I read some guides on how to overclock and the potential for it. Would you think something around 3.4-3.6 would be fine, assuming that my computer never heats up anymore with my "aftermarket" fan.
@trekkie How would you do a stability test and what would let it qualify as stable?
@browny: My new fan doesn't make me feel the heat emitting from my comp anymore if that's what you're saying.
@sizzling: I read some guides on how to overclock and the potential for it. Would you think something around 3.4-3.6 would be fine, assuming that my computer never heats up anymore with my "aftermarket" fan.
@trekkie How would you do a stability test and what would let it qualify as stable?
GeknaiirSorry for asking so many questions, I just want better performance from my computer.
@browny: My new fan doesn't make me feel the heat emitting from my comp anymore if that's what you're saying.
@sizzling: I read some guides on how to overclock and the potential for it. Would you think something around 3.4-3.6 would be fine, assuming that my computer never heats up anymore with my "aftermarket" fan.
@trekkie How would you do a stability test and what would let it qualify as stable?
You need to be using a CPU temperature monitoring program like CoreTemp or something. Trying to tell based off how your entire computer case's heat flow is pretty dumb considering a fluctuation in weather will get you completely off, let alone how cold or hot you are at the time etc. I'm feeling quit scared if you're going to overclock now.
[quote=Geknaiir]Sorry for asking so many questions, I just want better performance from my computer.
@browny: My new fan doesn't make me feel the heat emitting from my comp anymore if that's what you're saying.
@sizzling: I read some guides on how to overclock and the potential for it. Would you think something around 3.4-3.6 would be fine, assuming that my computer never heats up anymore with my "aftermarket" fan.
@trekkie How would you do a stability test and what would let it qualify as stable?[/quote]
You need to be using a CPU temperature monitoring program like [url=http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/]CoreTemp[/url] or something. Trying to tell based off how your entire computer case's heat flow is pretty dumb considering a fluctuation in weather will get you completely off, let alone how cold or hot you are at the time etc. I'm feeling quit scared if you're going to overclock now.
@browny: My new fan doesn't make me feel the heat emitting from my comp anymore if that's what you're saying.
@sizzling: I read some guides on how to overclock and the potential for it. Would you think something around 3.4-3.6 would be fine, assuming that my computer never heats up anymore with my "aftermarket" fan.
@trekkie How would you do a stability test and what would let it qualify as stable?[/quote]
You need to be using a CPU temperature monitoring program like [url=http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/]CoreTemp[/url] or something. Trying to tell based off how your entire computer case's heat flow is pretty dumb considering a fluctuation in weather will get you completely off, let alone how cold or hot you are at the time etc. I'm feeling quit scared if you're going to overclock now.
Don't just overclock to a speed some random dude tells you online. Do enough reading/research that you actually understand what the limitations are and why, before you break your shit.
One other thing that I will add is that Intel Burn Test is a great tool for finding out if your current OC is unstable, but if you pass that (or another similar high-stress low-duration test) always run Prime95 overnight to make sure. This is what's known as "stability testing," google could have told you that in 30 seconds.
Oh, and heat isn't always the limiting factor with overclocks, unless you have shit cooling. Your chip can only handle so much voltage over it. Like I said, please do some research or you'll end up buying a new processor.
Don't just overclock to a speed some random dude tells you online. Do enough reading/research that you actually understand what the limitations are and why, before you break your shit.
One other thing that I will add is that Intel Burn Test is a great tool for finding out if your current OC is [i]unstable[/i], but if you pass that (or another similar high-stress low-duration test) always run Prime95 overnight to make sure. This is what's known as "stability testing," google could have told you that in 30 seconds.
Oh, and heat isn't always the limiting factor with overclocks, unless you have shit cooling. Your chip can only handle so much voltage over it. Like I said, please do some research or you'll end up buying a new processor.
One other thing that I will add is that Intel Burn Test is a great tool for finding out if your current OC is [i]unstable[/i], but if you pass that (or another similar high-stress low-duration test) always run Prime95 overnight to make sure. This is what's known as "stability testing," google could have told you that in 30 seconds.
Oh, and heat isn't always the limiting factor with overclocks, unless you have shit cooling. Your chip can only handle so much voltage over it. Like I said, please do some research or you'll end up buying a new processor.
Geknaiir@sizzling: I read some guides on how to overclock and the potential for it. Would you think something around 3.4-3.6 would be fine, assuming that my computer never heats up anymore with my "aftermarket" fan.
I wouldn't set a goal right away, you should just get a feel for what you are doing then decide how fast you want it running.
Remember, with your chip, you have to increase a base clock which affects other components. This means that you need to lower the multipliers of your memory, HT bus, NB, and anything else that uses the base frequency in order to keep them close to default values while you increase the cpu frequency.
[quote=Geknaiir]@sizzling: I read some guides on how to overclock and the potential for it. Would you think something around 3.4-3.6 would be fine, assuming that my computer never heats up anymore with my "aftermarket" fan.[/quote]
I wouldn't set a goal right away, you should just get a feel for what you are doing then decide how fast you want it running.
Remember, with your chip, you have to increase a base clock which affects other components. This means that you need to lower the multipliers of your memory, HT bus, NB, and anything else that uses the base frequency in order to keep them close to default values while you increase the cpu frequency.
I wouldn't set a goal right away, you should just get a feel for what you are doing then decide how fast you want it running.
Remember, with your chip, you have to increase a base clock which affects other components. This means that you need to lower the multipliers of your memory, HT bus, NB, and anything else that uses the base frequency in order to keep them close to default values while you increase the cpu frequency.
Alright. So after using Core Temp, my processor temp is at a stable 38 degrees Celsius when I'm not doing anything and at 40-50 when I'm playing TF2. And thanks for the advice guys. I'll see what my autistic self can do over the weekend.
Alright. So after using Core Temp, my processor temp is at a stable 38 degrees Celsius when I'm not doing anything and at 40-50 when I'm playing TF2. And thanks for the advice guys. I'll see what my autistic self can do over the weekend.
Don't test by just playing games, that's a really poor indicator. use prime95 or something.
Don't test by just playing games, that's a really poor indicator. use prime95 or something.
And since you're changing the base freq, you'll probably want to memtest too so that your memory isn't overclocked beyond its limits.
And since you're changing the base freq, you'll probably want to memtest too so that your memory isn't overclocked beyond its limits.
I use prime95 for stability tests.
http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft/
It basically makes your cpu calculate insanely large primes, and if your CPU is unstable with your current frequency/voltage settings, it will return an error.
A disclaimer: No real world scenario will ever stress your cpu as much as prime95 so even if it returns an error after about an hour or two, you may never even get any crashes or instability during your day to day computer use.
I use prime95 for stability tests.
http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft/
It basically makes your cpu calculate insanely large primes, and if your CPU is unstable with your current frequency/voltage settings, it will return an error.
A disclaimer: No real world scenario will ever stress your cpu as much as prime95 so even if it returns an error after about an hour or two, you may never even get any crashes or instability during your day to day computer use.
http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft/
It basically makes your cpu calculate insanely large primes, and if your CPU is unstable with your current frequency/voltage settings, it will return an error.
A disclaimer: No real world scenario will ever stress your cpu as much as prime95 so even if it returns an error after about an hour or two, you may never even get any crashes or instability during your day to day computer use.
Yeah. I would definitely suggest using some sort of program that will overclock your CPU for you. The AI Suite on my computer overclock tests at different levels and chooses the one that is the best without harming my CPU. The main problem with overclocking is your cooling system. I just installed my Corsair Liquid Cooling System and I could easily overclock to 4.2-4.5 now.
Yeah. I would definitely suggest using some sort of program that will overclock your CPU for you. The AI Suite on my computer overclock tests at different levels and chooses the one that is the best without harming my CPU. The main problem with overclocking is your cooling system. I just installed my Corsair Liquid Cooling System and I could easily overclock to 4.2-4.5 now.
I've noted with any of the AMD's you will need a good aftermarket. I have a 1090T a couple steps above and it will do 4.0ghz on air with under 50c.
I would estimate that the 1035 can do the same(.8ghz up clock). According to most you should be able to hit 3.2-3.4 without worrying about anything with the proper cooler. Stock? I wouldn't rely on much.
One thing you can test, is use AMD overdrive for the initial software clock to see what you can do without BSOD'ing. Then hard clock it in bios. Make sure you have a temperature guage such as core temp. running. typically you stay under 55c under full load and it will be fine. Above 55+cc i've found it will act weird.
I use a hyper 212 evo for my board and it's a gigabyte 890gx, mid grade max. mobo, Handles fine.
I've noted with any of the AMD's you will need a good aftermarket. I have a 1090T a couple steps above and it will do 4.0ghz on air with under 50c.
I would estimate that the 1035 can do the same(.8ghz up clock). According to most you should be able to hit 3.2-3.4 without worrying about anything with the proper cooler. Stock? I wouldn't rely on much.
One thing you can test, is use AMD overdrive for the initial software clock to see what you can do without BSOD'ing. Then hard clock it in bios. Make sure you have a temperature guage such as core temp. running. typically you stay under 55c under full load and it will be fine. Above 55+cc i've found it will act weird.
I use a hyper 212 evo for my board and it's a gigabyte 890gx, mid grade max. mobo, Handles fine.
I would estimate that the 1035 can do the same(.8ghz up clock). According to most you should be able to hit 3.2-3.4 without worrying about anything with the proper cooler. Stock? I wouldn't rely on much.
One thing you can test, is use AMD overdrive for the initial software clock to see what you can do without BSOD'ing. Then hard clock it in bios. Make sure you have a temperature guage such as core temp. running. typically you stay under 55c under full load and it will be fine. Above 55+cc i've found it will act weird.
I use a hyper 212 evo for my board and it's a gigabyte 890gx, mid grade max. mobo, Handles fine.
tranchemusic^ 9 times out of 10 that's a terrible idea
How is that a terrible idea? Clearly I have a different CPU that is 3.6 without overclock. The program basically does stability test at different overclocks to see which one is the highest and most stable, then it you can choose to overclock it to that level.
[quote=tranchemusic]^ 9 times out of 10 that's a terrible idea[/quote]
How is that a terrible idea? Clearly I have a different CPU that is 3.6 without overclock. The program basically does stability test at different overclocks to see which one is the highest and most stable, then it you can choose to overclock it to that level.
How is that a terrible idea? Clearly I have a different CPU that is 3.6 without overclock. The program basically does stability test at different overclocks to see which one is the highest and most stable, then it you can choose to overclock it to that level.
DeRobertCtranchemusic^ 9 times out of 10 that's a terrible ideaHow is that a terrible idea? Clearly I have a different CPU that is 3.6 without overclock. The program basically does stability test at different overclocks to see which one is the highest and most stable, then it you can choose to overclock it to that level.
It doesn't change it in the bios, and is constantly using cpu and memory resources. Most of them (especially the AMD one, overdrive) are pretty buggy programs at best, too. Their stability tests often aren't rigorous enough to have any idea if it's actually a stable OC. But the main reason it's bad, is it doesn't teach you anything about overclocking, so when you've got a problem you'll have no clue where to start.
[quote=DeRobertC][quote=tranchemusic]^ 9 times out of 10 that's a terrible idea[/quote]
How is that a terrible idea? Clearly I have a different CPU that is 3.6 without overclock. The program basically does stability test at different overclocks to see which one is the highest and most stable, then it you can choose to overclock it to that level.[/quote]
It doesn't change it in the bios, and is constantly using cpu and memory resources. Most of them (especially the AMD one, overdrive) are pretty buggy programs at best, too. Their stability tests often aren't rigorous enough to have any idea if it's actually a stable OC. But the main reason it's bad, is it doesn't teach you anything about overclocking, so when you've got a problem you'll have no clue where to start.
How is that a terrible idea? Clearly I have a different CPU that is 3.6 without overclock. The program basically does stability test at different overclocks to see which one is the highest and most stable, then it you can choose to overclock it to that level.[/quote]
It doesn't change it in the bios, and is constantly using cpu and memory resources. Most of them (especially the AMD one, overdrive) are pretty buggy programs at best, too. Their stability tests often aren't rigorous enough to have any idea if it's actually a stable OC. But the main reason it's bad, is it doesn't teach you anything about overclocking, so when you've got a problem you'll have no clue where to start.
the first time I overclocked my CPU I just googled the average safe values/temp for my chip and went with that. it has autovoltage and some other shit like that that is pretty spotty between cards, I got lucky and mine works well. apparently people have been getting this to 4.1 on stock air cooling, but meh.
ran a CPU test for about 8 hours (school) without a hiccup @ 3.8
i7 970
edit: i still can't even tell you what I changed, what it did, how it works, or even how to reverse it. i live on the edge yo
the first time I overclocked my CPU I just googled the average safe values/temp for my chip and went with that. it has autovoltage and some other shit like that that is pretty spotty between cards, I got lucky and mine works well. apparently people have been getting this to 4.1 on stock air cooling, but meh.
ran a CPU test for about 8 hours (school) without a hiccup @ 3.8
i7 970
edit: i still can't even tell you what I changed, what it did, how it works, or even how to reverse it. i live on the edge yo
ran a CPU test for about 8 hours (school) without a hiccup @ 3.8
i7 970
edit: i still can't even tell you what I changed, what it did, how it works, or even how to reverse it. i live on the edge yo
tranchemusicDeRobertCtranchemusic^ 9 times out of 10 that's a terrible ideaHow is that a terrible idea? Clearly I have a different CPU that is 3.6 without overclock. The program basically does stability test at different overclocks to see which one is the highest and most stable, then it you can choose to overclock it to that level.
It doesn't change it in the bios, and is constantly using cpu and memory resources. Most of them (especially the AMD one, overdrive) are pretty buggy programs at best, too. Their stability tests often aren't rigorous enough to have any idea if it's actually a stable OC. But the main reason it's bad, is it doesn't teach you anything about overclocking, so when you've got a problem you'll have no clue where to start.
I already know how overclocking works, but I see your point. It does actually change it in the bios because I have checked when I overclocked before. Whether or not it is buggy is something I never looked into seeing that I never had an issue using it. I think the main issues with it is that it won't test in small increments . I might be able to get a little bit more overclock if I was to do it myself in the bios and do stability tests for each overclock settings I try out, but I already am satisfied with what I have.
[quote=tranchemusic][quote=DeRobertC][quote=tranchemusic]^ 9 times out of 10 that's a terrible idea[/quote]
How is that a terrible idea? Clearly I have a different CPU that is 3.6 without overclock. The program basically does stability test at different overclocks to see which one is the highest and most stable, then it you can choose to overclock it to that level.[/quote]
It doesn't change it in the bios, and is constantly using cpu and memory resources. Most of them (especially the AMD one, overdrive) are pretty buggy programs at best, too. Their stability tests often aren't rigorous enough to have any idea if it's actually a stable OC. But the main reason it's bad, is it doesn't teach you anything about overclocking, so when you've got a problem you'll have no clue where to start.[/quote]
I already know how overclocking works, but I see your point. It does actually change it in the bios because I have checked when I overclocked before. Whether or not it is buggy is something I never looked into seeing that I never had an issue using it. I think the main issues with it is that it won't test in small increments . I might be able to get a little bit more overclock if I was to do it myself in the bios and do stability tests for each overclock settings I try out, but I already am satisfied with what I have.
How is that a terrible idea? Clearly I have a different CPU that is 3.6 without overclock. The program basically does stability test at different overclocks to see which one is the highest and most stable, then it you can choose to overclock it to that level.[/quote]
It doesn't change it in the bios, and is constantly using cpu and memory resources. Most of them (especially the AMD one, overdrive) are pretty buggy programs at best, too. Their stability tests often aren't rigorous enough to have any idea if it's actually a stable OC. But the main reason it's bad, is it doesn't teach you anything about overclocking, so when you've got a problem you'll have no clue where to start.[/quote]
I already know how overclocking works, but I see your point. It does actually change it in the bios because I have checked when I overclocked before. Whether or not it is buggy is something I never looked into seeing that I never had an issue using it. I think the main issues with it is that it won't test in small increments . I might be able to get a little bit more overclock if I was to do it myself in the bios and do stability tests for each overclock settings I try out, but I already am satisfied with what I have.
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