We cant change it, we shouldnt ban it, only thing left is to boycot it :D
ban the looser cannon
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QuikkaidusMM is coming and you want to start banning weapons that were never banned before. Might as well just stop playing the game now as you won't like what the future holds.pls allow airstrike and parachute then lololoolol
We probably will and then players will realize "Well these are fun but too situational and really bad overall"
[quote=Quik][quote=kaidus]MM is coming and you want to start banning weapons that were never banned before. Might as well just stop playing the game now as you won't like what the future holds.[/quote]
pls allow airstrike and parachute then lololoolol[/quote]
We probably will and then players will realize "Well these are fun but too situational and really bad overall"
pls allow airstrike and parachute then lololoolol[/quote]
We probably will and then players will realize "Well these are fun but too situational and really bad overall"
I would much rather ban the direct hit since you can one shot scouts with it at close range- but it makes for sick skybox airshots in beater's frag vids so idk
I would much rather ban the direct hit since you can one shot scouts with it at close range- but it makes for sick skybox airshots in beater's frag vids so idk
SideshowIf you're hitting every double donk it isn't random. Don't argue two mutually exclusive things.
You can get random lucky double donks, and some people that's all they do. But in order for it to be better than pipes you have to actually have very good timing with it.
It doesn't require good aim though, which imo is the biggest problem. It needs a reduction in projectile size so you have to be precise like pipes.
I think the only problem I have with the loose canon is that it is difficult to predict when it will double donk you, unless you hear the demo rev it up.
[quote=Sideshow]If you're hitting every double donk it isn't random. Don't argue two mutually exclusive things.
You can get random lucky double donks, and some people that's all they do. But in order for it to be better than pipes you have to actually have very good timing with it.
It doesn't require good aim though, which imo is the biggest problem. It needs a reduction in projectile size so you have to be precise like pipes.[/quote]
I think the only problem I have with the loose canon is that it is difficult to predict [i]when[/i] it will double donk you, unless you hear the demo rev it up.
You can get random lucky double donks, and some people that's all they do. But in order for it to be better than pipes you have to actually have very good timing with it.
It doesn't require good aim though, which imo is the biggest problem. It needs a reduction in projectile size so you have to be precise like pipes.[/quote]
I think the only problem I have with the loose canon is that it is difficult to predict [i]when[/i] it will double donk you, unless you hear the demo rev it up.
kevif blaze and clock can't get the community behind banning this weapon no one can rofl
Actually, it would have been banned if b4nny didnt lie to tri while he was conducting the votes whether to ban/keep loose cannon and tell him our team wanted to keep it (everyone aside from banny wanted it out). It was the deciding vote
[quote=kev]if blaze and clock can't get the community behind banning this weapon no one can rofl[/quote]
Actually, it would have been banned if b4nny didnt lie to tri while he was conducting the votes whether to ban/keep loose cannon and tell him our team wanted to keep it (everyone aside from banny wanted it out). It was the deciding vote
Actually, it would have been banned if b4nny didnt lie to tri while he was conducting the votes whether to ban/keep loose cannon and tell him our team wanted to keep it (everyone aside from banny wanted it out). It was the deciding vote
mhave u considered using ur a or d keys to avoid the projectile while moving through chokes
standing still also works very well
let me grab my note pad real quick
[quote=m]have u considered using ur a or d keys to avoid the projectile while moving through chokes
standing still also works very well[/quote]
let me grab my note pad real quick
standing still also works very well[/quote]
let me grab my note pad real quick
blazekevif blaze and clock can't get the community behind banning this weapon no one can rofl
Actually, it would have been banned if b4nny didnt lie to tri while he was conducting the votes whether to ban/keep loose cannon and tell him our team wanted to keep it (everyone aside from banny wanted it out). It was the deciding vote
b4nnythesnake
[quote=blaze][quote=kev]if blaze and clock can't get the community behind banning this weapon no one can rofl[/quote]
Actually, it would have been banned if b4nny didnt lie to tri while he was conducting the votes whether to ban/keep loose cannon and tell him our team wanted to keep it (everyone aside from banny wanted it out). It was the deciding vote[/quote]
b4nnythesnake
Actually, it would have been banned if b4nny didnt lie to tri while he was conducting the votes whether to ban/keep loose cannon and tell him our team wanted to keep it (everyone aside from banny wanted it out). It was the deciding vote[/quote]
b4nnythesnake
Quik✓ Takes no skill
✓ Bad looking viewmodel
✓ Frags are not impressive on fragvideos
✓ No proper airshots
✓ Anoys the shit out of everyone
✓ Whoever uses it is gay
not true
not true
not true
not true
true
maybe true
[quote=Quik]✓ Takes no skill
✓ Bad looking viewmodel
✓ Frags are not impressive on fragvideos
✓ No proper airshots
✓ Anoys the shit out of everyone
✓ Whoever uses it is gay[/quote]
not true
not true
not true
not true
true
maybe true
✓ Bad looking viewmodel
✓ Frags are not impressive on fragvideos
✓ No proper airshots
✓ Anoys the shit out of everyone
✓ Whoever uses it is gay[/quote]
not true
not true
not true
not true
true
maybe true
Hellbenthow do u dodge bathtubs
don't take baths
[quote=Hellbent]how do u dodge bathtubs[/quote]
don't take baths
don't take baths
blazekevif blaze and clock can't get the community behind banning this weapon no one can rofl
Actually, it would have been banned if b4nny didnt lie to tri while he was conducting the votes whether to ban/keep loose cannon and tell him our team wanted to keep it (everyone aside from banny wanted it out). It was the deciding vote
thats weird as fuck. why would he want it in as pocket if everybody else (including duwatna) wanted it banned?
[quote=blaze][quote=kev]if blaze and clock can't get the community behind banning this weapon no one can rofl[/quote]
Actually, it would have been banned if b4nny didnt lie to tri while he was conducting the votes whether to ban/keep loose cannon and tell him our team wanted to keep it (everyone aside from banny wanted it out). It was the deciding vote[/quote]
thats weird as fuck. why would he want it in as pocket if everybody else (including duwatna) wanted it banned?
Actually, it would have been banned if b4nny didnt lie to tri while he was conducting the votes whether to ban/keep loose cannon and tell him our team wanted to keep it (everyone aside from banny wanted it out). It was the deciding vote[/quote]
thats weird as fuck. why would he want it in as pocket if everybody else (including duwatna) wanted it banned?
I almost caught him slipping during the LF last season. He snaked his way into the spacious cp_granary flank, pushing into their second point. xalox, with expert aim and precision, shot a loose cannon toward the lower area and I heard, "I fucking HATE T-," followed by silence. He probably knew I was waiting to pounce with an "I told you so" sort of response, so he held his tongue.
I almost caught him slipping during the LF last season. He snaked his way into the spacious cp_granary flank, pushing into their second point. xalox, with expert aim and precision, shot a loose cannon toward the lower area and I heard, "I fucking HATE T-," followed by silence. He probably knew I was waiting to pounce with an "I told you so" sort of response, so he held his tongue.
This is my third time seeing a loose cannon butthurt thread since i signed up to tf.tv
Wbu u guys? :-D
This is my third time seeing a loose cannon butthurt thread since i signed up to tf.tv
Wbu u guys? :-D
Wbu u guys? :-D
my parents always took my shitposting privilege away when i was grounded, yr so lucky :(
my parents always took my shitposting privilege away when i was grounded, yr so lucky :(
namassinI would much rather ban the direct hit since you can one shot scouts with it at close range- but it makes for sick skybox airshots in beater's frag vids so idk
can't it not do that anymore? i remember them changing something like that at the same time they changed pipes
[quote=namassin]I would much rather ban the direct hit since you can one shot scouts with it at close range- but it makes for sick skybox airshots in beater's frag vids so idk[/quote]
can't it not do that anymore? i remember them changing something like that at the same time they changed pipes
can't it not do that anymore? i remember them changing something like that at the same time they changed pipes
I'm sorta confused as to how the iron bomber is banned but not the LC tbh. seems inconsistent when it's clear that the LC is the best primary on all counts
I'm sorta confused as to how the iron bomber is banned but not the LC tbh. seems inconsistent when it's clear that the LC is the best primary on all counts
Iron Bomber is a grandfather ban from when it was new I think
still dumb sure but no one really wants to use it i guess
Iron Bomber is a grandfather ban from when it was new I think
still dumb sure but no one really wants to use it i guess
still dumb sure but no one really wants to use it i guess
Yep, loose cannon deserves a fat ban from the whitelist, CYA.
Yep, loose cannon deserves a fat ban from the whitelist, CYA.
I know there probably should be another thread for this, but I think that if we bad the loose cannon we should unban the loch n load. Iron bomber isn't exactly the best because I'd the lack of rolling after it hits the ground, and that basically leaves demos with only the booties (which I actually like in certain situations), the stock pipes, and the backpack parachute.
Or if you're opposed to everything that I just said, change the loose cannon so that
a) the hitbox is smaller
b) you can hear the sound of the charge from the weapon if you're a decent range away from it. Not loud enough like a minigun, but (maybe) slightly softer than the beep of a sentry gun that isn't firing
c) the double donk doesn't do minicrit damage on the second hit, but changing the base damage on impact to 65, making a double donk do 130 damage. It's enough to kill a non buffed scout but It's a little more forgiving to all the precious medics in the world
I feel like those 3 changes would be enough to make a lot of people less angry about the loose cannon in general. Thoughts?
I know there probably should be another thread for this, but I think that if we bad the loose cannon we should unban the loch n load. Iron bomber isn't exactly the best because I'd the lack of rolling after it hits the ground, and that basically leaves demos with only the booties (which I actually like in certain situations), the stock pipes, and the backpack parachute.
Or if you're opposed to everything that I just said, change the loose cannon so that
a) the hitbox is smaller
b) you can hear the sound of the charge from the weapon if you're a decent range away from it. Not loud enough like a minigun, but (maybe) slightly softer than the beep of a sentry gun that isn't firing
c) the double donk doesn't do minicrit damage on the second hit, but changing the base damage on impact to 65, making a double donk do 130 damage. It's enough to kill a non buffed scout but It's a little more forgiving to all the precious medics in the world
I feel like those 3 changes would be enough to make a lot of people less angry about the loose cannon in general. Thoughts?
Or if you're opposed to everything that I just said, change the loose cannon so that
a) the hitbox is smaller
b) you can hear the sound of the charge from the weapon if you're a decent range away from it. Not loud enough like a minigun, but (maybe) slightly softer than the beep of a sentry gun that isn't firing
c) the double donk doesn't do minicrit damage on the second hit, but changing the base damage on impact to 65, making a double donk do 130 damage. It's enough to kill a non buffed scout but It's a little more forgiving to all the precious medics in the world
I feel like those 3 changes would be enough to make a lot of people less angry about the loose cannon in general. Thoughts?
Instead of banning or nerfing the loose cannon, nerf the scout so demomen could actually be more aggressive and use pipes instead.
2 birds with one stone
Instead of banning or nerfing the loose cannon, nerf the scout so demomen could actually be more aggressive and use pipes instead.
2 birds with one stone
2 birds with one stone
loch n load is impossible to dodge, easy 300 damage whenever you pull it out and you can spam chokes from miles away. Silly weapon due to the range more than anything, you can spam badlands choke from your own train effectively.
Iron bomber should be unbanned, nice utility weapon if you want a more predictable GL but essentially the same.
loch n load is impossible to dodge, easy 300 damage whenever you pull it out and you can spam chokes from miles away. Silly weapon due to the range more than anything, you can spam badlands choke from your own train effectively.
Iron bomber should be unbanned, nice utility weapon if you want a more predictable GL but essentially the same.
Iron bomber should be unbanned, nice utility weapon if you want a more predictable GL but essentially the same.
Hellbenthow do u dodge bathtubs
I can think of 2 people who went to GXL that have mastered the art of dodging bathtubs
[quote=Hellbent]how do u dodge bathtubs[/quote]
I can think of 2 people who went to GXL that have mastered the art of dodging bathtubs
I can think of 2 people who went to GXL that have mastered the art of dodging bathtubs
remember when EU was vanilla?
can we do that with the NA scene that would be neat wouldn't it????
remember when EU was vanilla?
can we do that with the NA scene that would be neat wouldn't it????
can we do that with the NA scene that would be neat wouldn't it????
SetletInstead of banning or nerfing the loose cannon, nerf the scout so demomen could actually be more aggressive and use pipes instead.
2 birds with one stone
wouldn't mind that. maybe 5-10 less damage for scatterguns at point blank to moderately far distance?
Sideshowloch n load is impossible to dodge, easy 300 damage whenever you pull it out and you can spam chokes from miles away. Silly weapon due to the range more than anything, you can spam badlands choke from your own train effectively.
didn't really see it in that way actually. probably cause I never used the loch n load even when it was broken.
KonceptLegacya) the hitbox is smaller
b) you can hear the sound of the charge from the weapon if you're a decent range away from it. Not loud enough like a minigun, but (maybe) slightly softer than the beep of a sentry gun that isn't firing
c) the double donk doesn't do minicrit damage on the second hit, but changing the base damage on impact to 65, making a double donk do 130 damage. It's enough to kill a non buffed scout but It's a little more forgiving to all the precious medics in the world
what about the changes I suggested? I don't think it'd be too brutal like the post smissmas 2014 tide turner nerf and it wouldn't remain as "OP" as it's pictured now
[quote=Setlet]Instead of banning or nerfing the loose cannon, nerf the scout so demomen could actually be more aggressive and use pipes instead.
2 birds with one stone[/quote]
wouldn't mind that. maybe 5-10 less damage for scatterguns at point blank to moderately far distance?
[quote=Sideshow]loch n load is impossible to dodge, easy 300 damage whenever you pull it out and you can spam chokes from miles away. Silly weapon due to the range more than anything, you can spam badlands choke from your own train effectively.
[/quote]
didn't really see it in that way actually. probably cause I never used the loch n load even when it was broken.
[quote=KonceptLegacy]
a) the hitbox is smaller
b) you can hear the sound of the charge from the weapon if you're a decent range away from it. Not loud enough like a minigun, but (maybe) slightly softer than the beep of a sentry gun that isn't firing
c) the double donk doesn't do minicrit damage on the second hit, but changing the base damage on impact to 65, making a double donk do 130 damage. It's enough to kill a non buffed scout but It's a little more forgiving to all the precious medics in the world
[/quote]
what about the changes I suggested? I don't think it'd be too brutal like the post smissmas 2014 tide turner nerf and it wouldn't remain as "OP" as it's pictured now
2 birds with one stone[/quote]
wouldn't mind that. maybe 5-10 less damage for scatterguns at point blank to moderately far distance?
[quote=Sideshow]loch n load is impossible to dodge, easy 300 damage whenever you pull it out and you can spam chokes from miles away. Silly weapon due to the range more than anything, you can spam badlands choke from your own train effectively.
[/quote]
didn't really see it in that way actually. probably cause I never used the loch n load even when it was broken.
[quote=KonceptLegacy]
a) the hitbox is smaller
b) you can hear the sound of the charge from the weapon if you're a decent range away from it. Not loud enough like a minigun, but (maybe) slightly softer than the beep of a sentry gun that isn't firing
c) the double donk doesn't do minicrit damage on the second hit, but changing the base damage on impact to 65, making a double donk do 130 damage. It's enough to kill a non buffed scout but It's a little more forgiving to all the precious medics in the world
[/quote]
what about the changes I suggested? I don't think it'd be too brutal like the post smissmas 2014 tide turner nerf and it wouldn't remain as "OP" as it's pictured now
messiahremember when EU was vanilla?
can we do that with the NA scene that would be neat wouldn't it????
Funboats, escape plan, crossbow and boston basher are far too engrained in the meta now
[quote=messiah]remember when EU was vanilla?
can we do that with the NA scene that would be neat wouldn't it????[/quote]
Funboats, escape plan, crossbow and boston basher are far too engrained in the meta now
can we do that with the NA scene that would be neat wouldn't it????[/quote]
Funboats, escape plan, crossbow and boston basher are far too engrained in the meta now
lootmessiahremember when EU was vanilla?
can we do that with the NA scene that would be neat wouldn't it????
Funboats, escape plan, crossbow and boston basher are far too engrained in the meta now
He's right. Shotgun pocket (to an extent) is basically a thing of the past in today's meta. And shotgun roamer is like prehistoric thinking. Pretty sure we invented the wheel at about the same time this was popular
[quote=loot][quote=messiah]remember when EU was vanilla?
can we do that with the NA scene that would be neat wouldn't it????[/quote]
Funboats, escape plan, crossbow and boston basher are far too engrained in the meta now[/quote]
He's right. Shotgun pocket (to an extent) is basically a thing of the past in today's meta. And shotgun roamer is like prehistoric thinking. Pretty sure we invented the wheel at about the same time this was popular
can we do that with the NA scene that would be neat wouldn't it????[/quote]
Funboats, escape plan, crossbow and boston basher are far too engrained in the meta now[/quote]
He's right. Shotgun pocket (to an extent) is basically a thing of the past in today's meta. And shotgun roamer is like prehistoric thinking. Pretty sure we invented the wheel at about the same time this was popular
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