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Saloon.tf V2.0
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#181
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What's the expected response time on support tickets? If I didn't receive a payout is it better to submit the report as a general ticket or as a bug report?

Regarding the Ronin vs. Froyo match, maybe the payouts haven't been given out yet because the 111 key unusual hat bet is hard to pay out? (Edit: nvm just saw the post confirming someone else received the payout)

What's the expected response time on support tickets? If I didn't receive a payout is it better to submit the report as a general ticket or as a bug report?

Regarding the Ronin vs. Froyo match, maybe the payouts haven't been given out yet because the 111 key unusual hat bet is hard to pay out? (Edit: nvm just saw the post confirming someone else received the payout)
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#182
4 Frags +

TFTV forums probably isn't the best place to post this, but it's been quite a while and my various tweets and support tickets have failed to get any response so far and I have no idea how to get the Saloon people's attention other than this.
I've still not received any payout whatsoever (although I have received my initial bet back) from the Ronin V Froyo game from the 11th and I have no idea whether it's a bug or some kind of major delay in the system. As I've mentioned, I have nothing against waiting a bit, I would just like to know what's going on.

Screenshot of bet: http://imgur.com/hoqQmMO
Screenshot of winnings: http://imgur.com/YnmgWF8

TFTV forums probably isn't the best place to post this, but it's been quite a while and my various tweets and support tickets have failed to get any response so far and I have no idea how to get the Saloon people's attention other than this.
I've still not received any payout whatsoever (although I have received my initial bet back) from the Ronin V Froyo game from the 11th and I have no idea whether it's a bug or some kind of major delay in the system. As I've mentioned, I have nothing against waiting a bit, I would just like to know what's going on.

Screenshot of bet: http://imgur.com/hoqQmMO
Screenshot of winnings: http://imgur.com/YnmgWF8
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#183
6 Frags +
eepilyTFTV forums probably isn't the best place to post this, but it's been quite a while and my various tweets and support tickets have failed to get any response so far and I have no idea how to get the Saloon people's attention other than this.
I've still not received any payout whatsoever (although I have received my initial bet back) from the Ronin V Froyo game from the 11th and I have no idea whether it's a bug or some kind of major delay in the system. As I've mentioned, I have nothing against waiting a bit, I would just like to know what's going on.

Screenshot of bet: http://imgur.com/hoqQmMO
Screenshot of winnings: http://imgur.com/YnmgWF8

You're not the only one. Check the past few pages of this thread. In my instance, I bet one key on this match: https://saloon.tf/match/162

I received 0 winnings. There's no way I could receive 0 winnings with the odds and bets that occurred unless people with lower bets on the winning side somehow received more than they should have. I suspect the system doesn't split the keys (but the site is owned by Geel and should automate splitting keys into ref via scraptf bots) and kept the items from the losing side.

It's a shame because I want to bet on other matches, but I don't see a reason to bet keys on matches when there's a chance I can lose the keys but not win any.

#saloongate

[quote=eepily]TFTV forums probably isn't the best place to post this, but it's been quite a while and my various tweets and support tickets have failed to get any response so far and I have no idea how to get the Saloon people's attention other than this.
I've still not received any payout whatsoever (although I have received my initial bet back) from the Ronin V Froyo game from the 11th and I have no idea whether it's a bug or some kind of major delay in the system. As I've mentioned, I have nothing against waiting a bit, I would just like to know what's going on.

Screenshot of bet: http://imgur.com/hoqQmMO
Screenshot of winnings: http://imgur.com/YnmgWF8[/quote]

You're not the only one. Check the past few pages of this thread. In my instance, I bet one key on this match: https://saloon.tf/match/162

I received 0 winnings. There's no way I could receive 0 winnings with the odds and bets that occurred unless people with lower bets on the winning side somehow received more than they should have. I suspect the system doesn't split the keys (but the site is owned by Geel and should automate splitting keys into ref via scraptf bots) and kept the items from the losing side.

It's a shame because I want to bet on other matches, but I don't see a reason to bet keys on matches when there's a chance I can lose the keys but not win any.

#saloongate
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#184
4 Frags +
Enderp
It's a shame because I want to bet on other matches, but I don't see a reason to bet keys on matches when there's a chance I can lose the keys but not win any.
#saloongate

this has been my greatest concern!! I sent 3 PMs through Geel, though tftv, he responded saying I would receive payout but timing was unknown...

I have received 0 keys from my last the bets, and I am currently owed about 14+ keys

#saloongate

[quote=Enderp]

It's a shame because I want to bet on other matches, but I don't see a reason to bet keys on matches when there's a chance I can lose the keys but not win any.
#saloongate[/quote]

this has been my greatest concern!! I sent 3 PMs through Geel, though tftv, he responded saying I would receive payout but timing was unknown...

I have received 0 keys from my last the bets, and I am currently owed about 14+ keys

#saloongate
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#185
6 Frags +
eepilyTFTV forums probably isn't the best place to post this, but it's been quite a while and my various tweets and support tickets have failed to get any response so far and I have no idea how to get the Saloon people's attention other than this.
I've still not received any payout whatsoever (although I have received my initial bet back) from the Ronin V Froyo game from the 11th and I have no idea whether it's a bug or some kind of major delay in the system. As I've mentioned, I have nothing against waiting a bit, I would just like to know what's going on.

Screenshot of bet: http://imgur.com/hoqQmMO
Screenshot of winnings: http://imgur.com/YnmgWF8

I rather post it here and put some pressure on the saloon staff (Geel) to at least state why the tardiness.

[quote=eepily]TFTV forums probably isn't the best place to post this, but it's been quite a while and my various tweets and support tickets have failed to get any response so far and I have no idea how to get the Saloon people's attention other than this.
I've still not received any payout whatsoever (although I have received my initial bet back) from the Ronin V Froyo game from the 11th and I have no idea whether it's a bug or some kind of major delay in the system. As I've mentioned, I have nothing against waiting a bit, I would just like to know what's going on.

Screenshot of bet: http://imgur.com/hoqQmMO
Screenshot of winnings: http://imgur.com/YnmgWF8[/quote]

I rather post it here and put some pressure on the saloon staff (Geel) to at least state why the tardiness.
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#186
9 Frags +

There are reasons why real sports disavow the public promotion of betting sites.

There are reasons why real sports disavow the public promotion of betting sites.
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#187
9 Frags +

It's been over 2 weeks since I've submitted my ticket. Still no response on the 13+ keys I'm owed for 20b vs EVL. Does Saloon have like half of a guy covering support tickets, or what?

Edit: a month now. Seriously.

It's been over 2 weeks since I've submitted my ticket. Still no response on the 13+ keys I'm owed for 20b vs EVL. Does Saloon have like half of a guy covering support tickets, or what?

Edit: a month now. Seriously.
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#188
16 Frags +

man this site fucking blows ever since geel took it over, can't deposit shit and it sounds like half the people who win don't get their winnings back

man this site fucking blows ever since geel took it over, can't deposit shit and it sounds like half the people who win don't get their winnings back
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#189
4 Frags +

where the items at tho

where the items at tho
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#190
10 Frags +

Like most people I didn't get my rewards for ronin v 20b

Like most people I didn't get my rewards for ronin v 20b
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#191
4 Frags +

Even withdrawals seem to be bugged.

I tried to withdraw 10 items, and only got 7 of them. The other 3 are stuck "Pending Withdrawal Confirmation" indefinitely.

Edit: The items will return to your loot eventually, so you can get the items if you keep trying.

Even withdrawals seem to be bugged.

I tried to withdraw 10 items, and only got 7 of them. The other 3 are stuck "Pending Withdrawal Confirmation" indefinitely.

Edit: The items will return to your loot eventually, so you can get the items if you keep trying.
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#192
4 Frags +

I think the problem with the Ronin game is that there were like 70 bets on the Ronin side and just not that many total items on the 20b side. 2 of the bets on 20b were with unusuals which inflated 20b's odds without supplying many items

I think the problem with the Ronin game is that there were like 70 bets on the Ronin side and just not that many total items on the 20b side. 2 of the bets on 20b were with unusuals which inflated 20b's odds without supplying many items
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#193
3 Frags +
LarryOsmen41I think the problem with the Ronin game is that there were like 70 bets on the Ronin side and just not that many total items on the 20b side. 2 of the bets on 20b were with unusuals which inflated 20b's odds without supplying many items

I'm pretty sure you can't bet knives on csgo lounge for this reason. This would be solved pretty easily if you just limit the max price for items you can bet. I have no items from 3 games so im done.

[quote=LarryOsmen41]I think the problem with the Ronin game is that there were like 70 bets on the Ronin side and just not that many total items on the 20b side. 2 of the bets on 20b were with unusuals which inflated 20b's odds without supplying many items[/quote]

I'm pretty sure you can't bet knives on csgo lounge for this reason. This would be solved pretty easily if you just limit the max price for items you can bet. I have no items from 3 games so im done.
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#194
7 Frags +

Where Are My Skins Geel . . .

Where Are My Skins Geel . . .
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#195
8 Frags +

Isn't this some form of theft?

Isn't this some form of theft?
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#196
26 Frags +

Okay... it says that 20b won even though froyo got ddosed. Never betting on this site again lost all my keys. Do saloon.tf devs even watch the games or just see "oh it was 4-3 even if the match didnt count 20b won"

Why couldn't they just fucking return the items? That was the most OBVIOUS choice yet they fucked up.

Well if our items are already been given to the 20b betters the best thing we can hope for is being given back our items worth in pure or other items, but i don't think that's going to happen :/

Okay... it says that 20b won even though froyo got ddosed. Never betting on this site again lost all my keys. Do saloon.tf devs even watch the games or just see "oh it was 4-3 even if the match didnt count 20b won"

Why couldn't they just fucking return the items? That was the most OBVIOUS choice yet they fucked up.

Well if our items are already been given to the 20b betters the best thing we can hope for is being given back our items worth in pure or other items, but i don't think that's going to happen :/
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#197
7 Frags +

fuck this site for not refunding items, fucking retards

fuck this site for not refunding items, fucking retards
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#198
15 Frags +

tbh with the amount of shoehorning geel does on threads/twitter it seems like geel only took over to be popular not because he gives a shit

tbh with the amount of shoehorning geel does on threads/twitter it seems like geel only took over to be popular not because he gives a shit
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#199
0 Frags +

http://www.teamfortress.tv/25468/saloon-tf-and-ddosing

http://www.teamfortress.tv/25468/saloon-tf-and-ddosing
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#200
4 Frags +

ya i cant even get my items back that i bet nor can i see my winnings dope dope

ya i cant even get my items back that i bet nor can i see my winnings dope dope
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#201
8 Frags +

why are people still betting when saloon has been fucked for at least a month? you're just throwing money away at this point.

why are people still betting when saloon has been fucked for at least a month? you're just throwing money away at this point.
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#202
3 Frags +

Trying to withdraw. It's been half an hour and still no trade offer and it won't let me try again.
Edit: I got the trade offer finally -.-
and still haven't gotten my payout for ronin v 20b

Trying to withdraw. It's been half an hour and still no trade offer and it won't let me try again.
Edit: I got the trade offer finally -.-
and still haven't gotten my payout for ronin v 20b
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#203
6 Frags +

Like I said in the Street Hoops v. Froyo thread

Why is the website still online when they are completely aware the website is literally just taking people's items
At this point it's wildly unethical and inexcusable, as soon as this was apparent they should have shut the website down until it was resolved

Like I said in the Street Hoops v. Froyo thread

Why is the website still online when they are completely aware the website is literally just taking people's items
At this point it's wildly unethical and inexcusable, as soon as this was apparent they should have shut the website down until it was resolved
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#204
1 Frags +
fahrenheitLike I said in the Street Hoops v. Froyo thread

Why is the website still online when they are completely aware the website is literally just taking people's items
At this point it's wildly unethical and inexcusable, as soon as this was apparent they should have shut the website down until it was resolved

When i started with this website i had no idea it was like this. People told me they used it so i said I would give it a try. Won't anymore w/e or not i get my items back.

[quote=fahrenheit]Like I said in the Street Hoops v. Froyo thread

Why is the website still online when they are completely aware the website is literally just taking people's items
At this point it's wildly unethical and inexcusable, as soon as this was apparent they should have shut the website down until it was resolved[/quote]

When i started with this website i had no idea it was like this. People told me they used it so i said I would give it a try. Won't anymore w/e or not i get my items back.
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#205
marketplace.tf
4 Frags +

Edit: see here for a full explanation

Edit: [url=http://www.teamfortress.tv/33005/regarding-the-recent-saloon-issues]see here[/url] for a full explanation
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#206
6 Frags +

I know there's plans to create a system to turn high value items into low value items, but do you plan to pay out the unpaid bets using it? If you aren't due to logistical issues, would you do it for those that resubmit support tickets for the match in question, showing that they aren't a dead account?

I know there's plans to create a system to turn high value items into low value items, but do you plan to pay out the unpaid bets using it? If you aren't due to logistical issues, would you do it for those that resubmit support tickets for the match in question, showing that they aren't a dead account?
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#207
5 Frags +

why are there no eu 6s matches to bet on?
can we get some eu admins on this?

why are there no eu 6s matches to bet on?
can we get some eu admins on this?
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#208
0 Frags +

well since it got bumped, here i go again http://imgur.com/Uk614mB

well since it got bumped, here i go again http://imgur.com/Uk614mB
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#209
-1 Frags +

https://saloon.tf/match/318
Game was on sunday, yet nameless still aren't marked as victors of the bet.
If this is about that stupid argument that the handicap was unjustified, then i have the following to say:
Nameless have been in a slump lately, lost maps in league games and even lost a bo3 to perilous in the same tournament. On top of that the odds were still stacked in perilous' favour 80:20 so either a lot of people found the handicap alright or didn't read before they bet, which is their own responsibility.

https://saloon.tf/match/318
Game was on sunday, yet nameless still aren't marked as victors of the bet.
If this is about that stupid argument that the handicap was unjustified, then i have the following to say:
Nameless have been in a slump lately, lost maps in league games and even lost a bo3 to perilous in the same tournament. On top of that the odds were still stacked in perilous' favour 80:20 so either a lot of people found the handicap alright or didn't read before they bet, which is their own responsibility.
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#210
4 Frags +

The series was never completed due to wacky circumstances. kkaltu weighed in and said he would refund if the decision were up to him. I tend to agree with him heh.

The series was never completed due to wacky circumstances. kkaltu weighed in and said he would refund if the decision were up to him. I tend to agree with him heh.
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