if only you guys knew how close bullet and circa came to having two ex-invite ex-cloudmaker team players on their team...
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if only you guys knew how close bullet and circa came to having two ex-invite ex-cloudmaker team players on their team...
Geknaiironly one person decided to watch the demo and ended up saying that bullets not cheating as everyone else continues to john about losing to bullet because he still cheats
then two actually good players tell everyone else how to win based off of prior experience and everyone is trashing them for giving u a potential idea to test against us (and maybe even win!)
have u guys ever thought that u lose to bullet because your mentality for improving in this game is shit? because its definitely possible even if they actually cheat
are you saying that bullet has cheated incredibly blatantly in the past but because he's stopped now you're fine with playing with him then? or do you think he never did? i mean yeah i guess at this point it's the only way for you to win anything but just admit that dude
[quote=Geknaiir]only one person decided to watch the demo and ended up saying that bullets not cheating as everyone else continues to john about losing to bullet because he still cheats
then two actually good players tell everyone else how to win based off of prior experience and everyone is trashing them for giving u a potential idea to test against us (and maybe even win!)
have u guys ever thought that u lose to bullet because your mentality for improving in this game is shit? because its definitely possible even if they actually cheat[/quote]
are you saying that bullet has cheated incredibly blatantly in the past but because he's stopped now you're fine with playing with him then? or do you think he never did? i mean yeah i guess at this point it's the only way for you to win anything but just admit that dude
then two actually good players tell everyone else how to win based off of prior experience and everyone is trashing them for giving u a potential idea to test against us (and maybe even win!)
have u guys ever thought that u lose to bullet because your mentality for improving in this game is shit? because its definitely possible even if they actually cheat[/quote]
are you saying that bullet has cheated incredibly blatantly in the past but because he's stopped now you're fine with playing with him then? or do you think he never did? i mean yeah i guess at this point it's the only way for you to win anything but just admit that dude
the former
also i dont know why ur trying to start shit with me but its fine i guess i could deal with another ape trying to talk shit to me on the internet
the former
also i dont know why ur trying to start shit with me but its fine i guess i could deal with another ape trying to talk shit to me on the internet
also i dont know why ur trying to start shit with me but its fine i guess i could deal with another ape trying to talk shit to me on the internet
This Thread Is Making Me Depressed Let's Talk About Something Else. Like How I Think Joe From The Westbrook Effect Is The Best Demo In Open Right Now And I've Seen Zero People Mention It He Is Very Good :)
This Thread Is Making Me Depressed Let's Talk About Something Else. Like How I Think Joe From The Westbrook Effect Is The Best Demo In Open Right Now And I've Seen Zero People Mention It He Is Very Good :)
Daffodil-CHEATING DEMO.
And this is why you get called a peanut brain
This is like so counter intuitive that it sounds like you're trolling
Even if he does wall tf2 is such a linear game you could predict a push a minute before it happens
people who do complain about "their demo is just raping us! He has to be hacking!" Is more along the lines of literally getting outdm'd or lack of experience (and it's not the latter)
Like literally if he was called out on cheating as scout I'd have a different mindset but again after playing with him last night I can say positively that he is not cheating and it's more along the line of noobs getting their shit pushed in and them getting tight by getting beat by an ex cheater
[quote=Daffodil-]CHEATING DEMO.[/quote]
And this is why you get called a peanut brain
This is like so counter intuitive that it sounds like you're trolling
Even if he does wall tf2 is such a linear game you could predict a push a minute before it happens
people who do complain about "their demo is just raping us! He has to be hacking!" Is more along the lines of literally getting outdm'd or lack of experience (and it's not the latter)
Like literally if he was called out on cheating as scout I'd have a different mindset but again after playing with him last night I can say positively that he is not cheating and it's more along the line of noobs getting their shit pushed in and them getting tight by getting beat by an ex cheater
And this is why you get called a peanut brain
This is like so counter intuitive that it sounds like you're trolling
Even if he does wall tf2 is such a linear game you could predict a push a minute before it happens
people who do complain about "their demo is just raping us! He has to be hacking!" Is more along the lines of literally getting outdm'd or lack of experience (and it's not the latter)
Like literally if he was called out on cheating as scout I'd have a different mindset but again after playing with him last night I can say positively that he is not cheating and it's more along the line of noobs getting their shit pushed in and them getting tight by getting beat by an ex cheater
jesus christ you're just really grasping at straws for excuses to play with someone who's been basically the most well known cheater in comp tf2 for a long time now when the truth is youre just fucking awful at this game and the only way for you to have any success is to play in literally the lowest division or get carried by an entire team of people way way better than you
the fact that anyone with any self respect would play with bullet at this point is honestly fucking pathetic
jesus christ you're just really grasping at straws for excuses to play with someone who's been basically the most well known cheater in comp tf2 for a long time now when the truth is youre just fucking awful at this game and the only way for you to have any success is to play in literally the lowest division or get carried by an entire team of people way way better than you
the fact that anyone with any self respect would play with bullet at this point is honestly fucking pathetic
the fact that anyone with any self respect would play with bullet at this point is honestly fucking pathetic
Why the fuck are they letting these known cheaters play esea to begin with. That's the part of this whole ordeal that is fucking with me. I don't get why you would associate yourself with these people, and be OKAY playing for known cheaters, potentially taking away an Open season win from a team that deserves it a lot more. I'm sorry aim, but I've lost a lot of respect for you.
"he prob doesnt hack anymore, but even if he does thats not why ur losing, u just suck"
Why the fuck are they letting these known cheaters play esea to begin with. That's the part of this whole ordeal that is fucking with me. I don't get why you would associate yourself with these people, and be OKAY playing for known cheaters, potentially taking away an Open season win from a team that deserves it a lot more. I'm sorry aim, but I've lost a lot of respect for you.
"he prob doesnt hack anymore, but even if he does thats not why ur losing, u just suck"
"he prob doesnt hack anymore, but even if he does thats not why ur losing, u just suck"
We got 5-0 rolled by malicious last night and I didn't find anything that really showed any cheating, but then again maybe we just got rolled so quick we didn't notice. Honestly the thing is that if they weren't called out for cheating, it would have been way easier for me to think "man these guys are good" but you look at things a lot more suspiciously when you know someone has had a history for cheating. Personally I don't think "he cheated before but stopped now" is a good excuse though, because you really should never cheat to begin with.
We got 5-0 rolled by malicious last night and I didn't find anything that really showed any cheating, but then again maybe we just got rolled so quick we didn't notice. Honestly the thing is that if they weren't called out for cheating, it would have been way easier for me to think "man these guys are good" but you look at things a lot more suspiciously when you know someone has had a history for cheating. Personally I don't think "he cheated before but stopped now" is a good excuse though, because you really should never cheat to begin with.
aim- an ex cheater
Never heard of this type of person before.
[quote=aim-] an ex cheater [/quote]
Never heard of this type of person before.
Never heard of this type of person before.
Saam can you stop attempting to bait a response it's not going to work since results matter more. And my accolades out weigh whatever you're saying. Better to be the worst player on a good team period.
Besides the game was at most 4v6
If you want to pay more then feel free to I'll leave but outside of that I made a looking thread and got ZERO responses. So outside of that is beyond me of why you guys are upset. I don't care if they are cheating even though it is bad, goes to show how much effort esea is putting into the game.
Outside of that then hate me it's open and I'll be out of there next season if tf2 decides to not implode.
Saam can you stop attempting to bait a response it's not going to work since results matter more. And my accolades out weigh whatever you're saying. Better to be the worst player on a good team period.
Besides the game was at most 4v6
If you want to pay more then feel free to I'll leave but outside of that I made a looking thread and got ZERO responses. So outside of that is beyond me of why you guys are upset. I don't care if they are cheating even though it is bad, goes to show how much effort esea is putting into the game.
Outside of that then hate me it's open and I'll be out of there next season if tf2 decides to not implode.
Besides the game was at most 4v6
If you want to pay more then feel free to I'll leave but outside of that I made a looking thread and got ZERO responses. So outside of that is beyond me of why you guys are upset. I don't care if they are cheating even though it is bad, goes to show how much effort esea is putting into the game.
Outside of that then hate me it's open and I'll be out of there next season if tf2 decides to not implode.
So esea's lack of action towards cheaters justifies joining their team?
Do whatever you want but to me at that point you're just part of the problem and having the mindset of "rofl its open who cares" does nothing but encourage anti-competitive behavior.
So esea's lack of action towards cheaters justifies joining their team?
Do whatever you want but to me at that point you're just part of the problem and having the mindset of "rofl its open who cares" does nothing but encourage anti-competitive behavior.
Do whatever you want but to me at that point you're just part of the problem and having the mindset of "rofl its open who cares" does nothing but encourage anti-competitive behavior.
Okay I'll give an outline
Justification: they are paying for me who cares I'm not wasting any money and I get free money at the end of the season
Problem: cheating demoman and 3 other people who are playing fragging classes and don't play as disciplined as I do
Solution: change peanut brains to a big brain
Ways it could and still can be prevented: monetary bonus or pick me up so you're team when I had a looking thread up
I want no more "what makes you think that's right talk"
I know it's a mistake but I do it for the same reason anyone else sandbags -_-
Okay I'll give an outline
Justification: they are paying for me who cares I'm not wasting any money and I get free money at the end of the season
Problem: cheating demoman and 3 other people who are playing fragging classes and don't play as disciplined as I do
Solution: change peanut brains to a big brain
Ways it could and still can be prevented: monetary bonus or pick me up so you're team when I had a looking thread up
I want no more "what makes you think that's right talk"
I know it's a mistake but I do it for the same reason anyone else sandbags -_-
Justification: they are paying for me who cares I'm not wasting any money and I get free money at the end of the season
Problem: cheating demoman and 3 other people who are playing fragging classes and don't play as disciplined as I do
Solution: change peanut brains to a big brain
Ways it could and still can be prevented: monetary bonus or pick me up so you're team when I had a looking thread up
I want no more "what makes you think that's right talk"
I know it's a mistake but I do it for the same reason anyone else sandbags -_-
Jesus christ you are essentially black mailing open for literally $40. You are such a peice of shit its not even funny.
Jesus christ you are essentially black mailing open for literally $40. You are such a peice of shit its not even funny.
Welcome to the world where money eats any "morals"
I mean it's free money I have to put minimal effort into it and I get whatever at the end of the season. This is literally a win-win situation.
4 hours MAX divided over 2 week intervals for 40 bucks isn't really anything that's considered scummy
Look at it as a casual investment. It's mainly to cockblock cookiejake :P
Welcome to the world where money eats any "morals"
I mean it's free money I have to put minimal effort into it and I get whatever at the end of the season. This is literally a win-win situation.
4 hours MAX divided over 2 week intervals for 40 bucks isn't really anything that's considered scummy
Look at it as a casual investment. It's mainly to cockblock cookiejake :P
I mean it's free money I have to put minimal effort into it and I get whatever at the end of the season. This is literally a win-win situation.
4 hours MAX divided over 2 week intervals for 40 bucks isn't really anything that's considered scummy
Look at it as a casual investment. It's mainly to cockblock cookiejake :P
We're still going to beat u aim like who even are you and cloud maker u really think ur beating the cookiejake med? Like haha my dude! Cya in finals :[]
We're still going to beat u aim like who even are you and cloud maker u really think ur beating the cookiejake med? Like haha my dude! Cya in finals :[]
Money might eat morals but for $40 I am doubing that you had any to start with. Also even at a hour a week thats 11 hours over the full season. You compromised your "morals" for $3.63/hour. Pathetic.
Money might eat morals but for $40 I am doubing that you had any to start with. Also even at a hour a week thats 11 hours over the full season. You compromised your "morals" for $3.63/hour. Pathetic.
Pretty fucjed up claiming the black guy has no morals
Pretty fucjed up claiming the black guy has no morals
yall niggas are caring so fucking much about aim playing with malicious activity and his morals. jesus christ get over it dude. calling him pathetic and shit when hes just getting money for a fucking video game. its plain awful that you care this deeply about it, and pathetic that you continue to bash him when he says that he just wants money.
sure aim is fucking stupid, but so are you letting him bait you like this god damn.
instead of calling him out, fucking beat him ingame.
yall niggas are caring so fucking much about aim playing with malicious activity and his morals. jesus christ get over it dude. calling him pathetic and shit when hes just getting money for a fucking video game. its plain awful that you care this deeply about it, and pathetic that you continue to bash him when he says that he just wants money.
sure aim is fucking stupid, but so are you letting him bait you like this god damn.
instead of calling him out, fucking beat him ingame.
sure aim is fucking stupid, but so are you letting him bait you like this god damn.
instead of calling him out, fucking beat him ingame.
aim-Okay I'll give an outline
Justification: they are paying for me who cares I'm not wasting any money and I get free money at the end of the season
Problem: cheating demoman and 3 other people who are playing fragging classes and don't play as disciplined as I do
So you are justifying playing with "cheaters" b/c they used 30 bucks for you? I get that its free money for you but remember that there are people who paid to play this season and improve, and when they have to play against cheating teams its not really a good use of their money.
[quote=aim-]Okay I'll give an outline
Justification: they are paying for me who cares I'm not wasting any money and I get free money at the end of the season
Problem: cheating demoman and 3 other people who are playing fragging classes and don't play as disciplined as I do
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So you are justifying playing with "cheaters" b/c they used 30 bucks for you? I get that its free money for you but remember that there are people who paid to play this season and improve, and when they have to play against cheating teams its not really a good use of their money.
Justification: they are paying for me who cares I'm not wasting any money and I get free money at the end of the season
Problem: cheating demoman and 3 other people who are playing fragging classes and don't play as disciplined as I do
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So you are justifying playing with "cheaters" b/c they used 30 bucks for you? I get that its free money for you but remember that there are people who paid to play this season and improve, and when they have to play against cheating teams its not really a good use of their money.
Yeah, why play TF2 for fun, or competition, or improving when you can play for the chance at a minimal amount of money in eight weeks at the low cost of ruining the enjoyment for everyone else in open!
It's apparently a "win-win situation" after all.
Yeah, why play TF2 for fun, or competition, or improving when you can play for the chance at a minimal amount of money in eight weeks at the low cost of ruining the enjoyment for everyone else in open!
It's apparently a "win-win situation" after all.
It's apparently a "win-win situation" after all.
Watching aim justify playing with cheaters is like watching cheaters trying to justify their cheating lol
Watching aim justify playing with cheaters is like watching cheaters trying to justify their cheating lol
Bullet isn't cheating in their matches. You can tell cuz the way it is. Also he's played demo forever, it's not walls or sticky autodet, insert type of cheat here.... Any mongoloid, such as myself, can predict pushes. Plus he doesn't even use booties, what a dummy! But for real, quit blaming losing on a reputation. Just let them play and let's see how good everyone really is in open.
Bullet isn't cheating in their matches. You can tell cuz the way it is. Also he's played demo forever, it's not walls or sticky autodet, insert type of cheat here.... Any mongoloid, such as myself, can predict pushes. Plus he doesn't even use booties, what a dummy! But for real, quit blaming losing on a reputation. Just let them play and let's see how good everyone really is in open.
I don't know how anyone could justify going from a top-4 team in Invite in one season, then the very next season you're getting paid to sandbag in Open with a former/current cheater.
I don't know how anyone could justify going from a top-4 team in Invite in one season, then the very next season you're getting paid to sandbag in Open with a former/current cheater.
JOEBullet isn't cheating in their matches. You can tell cuz the way it is. Also he's played demo forever, it's not walls or sticky autodet, insert type of cheat here.... Any mongoloid, such as myself, can predict pushes. Plus he doesn't even use booties, what a dummy!.
pipes are pretty good if you don't miss
Geknaiironly one person decided to watch the demo and ended up saying that bullets not cheating as everyone else continues to john about losing to bullet because he still cheats
The last demo I've watched of bullets was from 2 seasons ago but he was clearly cheating back then, looked like pretty blatant auto detting and wall hacking (it was evident vs my team as well because in our match he would put up sticky traps in house on blands when he saw waldo take the ammo pack on patio through the wall, because bullet's a mong and apparently predicted that he'd run into house and die to the sticky trap)
It's no fun to play against an auto detter mongo but aim is completely right in saying that both bullet and the rest of the team are complete morons so even if they are hacking they are certainly not unbeatable. I also don't think it's beyond the realm of possibility that he attempted to persuade aim to play on the team in part by not making it obvious that he's cheating, but he could very well start come playoffs. I don't think a bullet team has ever won anything or even come close and I don't see it realistically ruining playoffs.
YellowCellPhoneI don't know how anyone could justify going from a top-4 team in Invite in one season, then the very next season you're getting paid to sandbag in Open with a former/current cheater.
the justification is that he clearly doesn't give a shit about random open players whose fun he is ruining and wants free money
ofc it's a dick move but it's not nonsensical
[quote=JOE]Bullet isn't cheating in their matches. You can tell cuz the way it is. Also he's played demo forever, it's not walls or sticky autodet, insert type of cheat here.... Any mongoloid, such as myself, can predict pushes. Plus he doesn't even use booties, what a dummy!.[/quote]
pipes are pretty good if you don't miss
[quote=Geknaiir]only one person decided to watch the demo and ended up saying that bullets not cheating as everyone else continues to john about losing to bullet because he still cheats[/quote]
The last demo I've watched of bullets was from 2 seasons ago but he was clearly cheating back then, looked like pretty blatant auto detting and wall hacking (it was evident vs my team as well because in our match he would put up sticky traps in house on blands when he saw waldo take the ammo pack on patio through the wall, because bullet's a mong and apparently predicted that he'd run into house and die to the sticky trap)
It's no fun to play against an auto detter mongo but aim is completely right in saying that both bullet and the rest of the team are complete morons so even if they are hacking they are certainly not unbeatable. I also don't think it's beyond the realm of possibility that he attempted to persuade aim to play on the team in part by not making it obvious that he's cheating, but he could very well start come playoffs. I don't think a bullet team has ever won anything or even come close and I don't see it realistically ruining playoffs.
[quote=YellowCellPhone]I don't know how anyone could justify going from a top-4 team in Invite in one season, then the very next season you're getting paid to sandbag in Open with a former/current cheater.[/quote]
the justification is that he clearly doesn't give a shit about random open players whose fun he is ruining and wants free money
ofc it's a dick move but it's not nonsensical
pipes are pretty good if you don't miss
[quote=Geknaiir]only one person decided to watch the demo and ended up saying that bullets not cheating as everyone else continues to john about losing to bullet because he still cheats[/quote]
The last demo I've watched of bullets was from 2 seasons ago but he was clearly cheating back then, looked like pretty blatant auto detting and wall hacking (it was evident vs my team as well because in our match he would put up sticky traps in house on blands when he saw waldo take the ammo pack on patio through the wall, because bullet's a mong and apparently predicted that he'd run into house and die to the sticky trap)
It's no fun to play against an auto detter mongo but aim is completely right in saying that both bullet and the rest of the team are complete morons so even if they are hacking they are certainly not unbeatable. I also don't think it's beyond the realm of possibility that he attempted to persuade aim to play on the team in part by not making it obvious that he's cheating, but he could very well start come playoffs. I don't think a bullet team has ever won anything or even come close and I don't see it realistically ruining playoffs.
[quote=YellowCellPhone]I don't know how anyone could justify going from a top-4 team in Invite in one season, then the very next season you're getting paid to sandbag in Open with a former/current cheater.[/quote]
the justification is that he clearly doesn't give a shit about random open players whose fun he is ruining and wants free money
ofc it's a dick move but it's not nonsensical
you guys can stop bitching im still winning open this season
HuckThis Thread Is Making Me Depressed Let's Talk About Something Else. Like How I Think Joe From The Westbrook Effect Is The Best Demo In Open Right Now And I've Seen Zero People Mention It He Is Very Good :)
unless this guy stops me, idk anyone on that team besides when they ring couch but this guy is way better than the rest of his team
you guys can stop bitching im still winning open this season
[quote=Huck]This Thread Is Making Me Depressed Let's Talk About Something Else. Like How I Think Joe From The Westbrook Effect Is The Best Demo In Open Right Now And I've Seen Zero People Mention It He Is Very Good :)[/quote]
unless this guy stops me, idk anyone on that team besides when they ring couch but this guy is way better than the rest of his team
[quote=Huck]This Thread Is Making Me Depressed Let's Talk About Something Else. Like How I Think Joe From The Westbrook Effect Is The Best Demo In Open Right Now And I've Seen Zero People Mention It He Is Very Good :)[/quote]
unless this guy stops me, idk anyone on that team besides when they ring couch but this guy is way better than the rest of his team
at least get paid weekly like cookiejake, even if you win open aim he'll still have made more money than you
at least get paid weekly like cookiejake, even if you win open aim he'll [i]still[/i] have made more money than you
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