MelonTFDavidTheWinMelonTFFalcon0408MelonTFtrashI'm just going to assume you haven't actually clicked any link I've posted so far and end it at that
that doesnt even tell us how many people were searching for it before and after, worthless info
do you know what "spike in the last hour" means
do you understand that a 250% increase in an unspecified number of people is likely nowhere near a majority of a voting population
How about this one? https://twitter.com/GoogleTrends/status/746303118820937728
https://gyazo.com/004b4f31895e7c5599f18a4ec01b8fe2
If i have 5 apples and my mom gives me another 5 apples, I have 10 apples. This means I have a 100% increase in number of apples.
The starting and end number is fucking irrelevant, it's still an increase. More than what you had before.
[quote=MelonTF][quote=DavidTheWin][quote=MelonTF][quote=Falcon0408][quote=MelonTF][quote=trash]I'm just going to assume you haven't actually clicked any link I've posted so far and end it at that[/quote]
that doesnt even tell us how many people were searching for it before and after, worthless info[/quote]
do you know what "spike in the last hour" means[/quote]
do you understand that a 250% increase in an unspecified number of people is likely nowhere near a majority of a voting population[/quote]
How about this one? https://twitter.com/GoogleTrends/status/746303118820937728[/quote]
https://gyazo.com/004b4f31895e7c5599f18a4ec01b8fe2[/quote]
If i have 5 apples and my mom gives me another 5 apples, I have 10 apples. This means I have a 100% increase in number of apples.
The starting and end number is fucking irrelevant, it's still an increase. More than what you had before.
MelonTFhttps://gyazo.com/004b4f31895e7c5599f18a4ec01b8fe2
Yeah, dude. Since the Brexit results were released, everybody in UK stopped using google and the only 10 people who searched about EU got to the top 5 questions in the whole region.
[quote=MelonTF]https://gyazo.com/004b4f31895e7c5599f18a4ec01b8fe2[/quote]
Yeah, dude. Since the Brexit results were released, everybody in UK stopped using google and the only 10 people who searched about EU got to the top 5 questions in the whole region.
im not going to argue something that isnt true, but i cant find any numbers put out by google in order to actually judge the search popularity. arbitrary percentages dont mean anything to me; there could have been any number of searches before and after a percent increase or decrease. i want to compare the number of searches to the population in order to determine how many voters made searches indicating they did not understand the vote.
im not going to argue something that isnt true, but i cant find any numbers put out by google in order to actually judge the search popularity. arbitrary percentages dont mean anything to me; there could have been any number of searches before and after a percent increase or decrease. i want to compare the number of searches to the population in order to determine how many voters made searches indicating they did not understand the vote.
can't wait to get my irish passport and leave this shit hole
can't wait to get my irish passport and leave this shit hole
not gonna take long until countries like scottland and northern ireland will have another referndum to ditch the sinking ship MS UK and then prolly join the EU
not gonna take long until countries like scottland and northern ireland will have another referndum to ditch the sinking ship MS UK and then prolly join the EU
smzinot gonna take long until countries like France and Netherlands will have a referndum to ditch the sinking ship SMS EU
:)
[quote=smzi]not gonna take long until countries like France and Netherlands will have a referndum to ditch the sinking ship SMS EU[/quote]
:)
I prefer a future where international cooperation is stronger, not weaker
I prefer a future where international cooperation is stronger, not weaker
smzinot gonna take long until countries like scottland and northern ireland will have another referndum to ditch the sinking ship MS UK and then prolly join the EU
So now the EU is going to take Scotland off our hands too? And people thought they would punish us for leaving!
Scotland's not going to have an easier time in the EU. Their biggest trading partner by far is England and with the price of oil still low they have no cash, if they joined the EU now they'd have to make even more cuts to public services. But it should be up to them of course.
[quote=smzi]not gonna take long until countries like scottland and northern ireland will have another referndum to ditch the sinking ship MS UK and then prolly join the EU[/quote]
So now the EU is going to take Scotland off our hands too? And people thought they would punish us for leaving!
Scotland's not going to have an easier time in the EU. Their biggest trading partner by far is England and with the price of oil still low they have no cash, if they joined the EU now they'd have to make even more cuts to public services. But it should be up to them of course.
considering the choices are slightly shit EU connection and no EU connection at all, when the only reason they stayed beforehand was under the assumption the UK would always stick with them, then yes, most people of scotland are going to fuck off and seperate
considering the choices are slightly shit EU connection and no EU connection at all, when the only reason they stayed beforehand was under the assumption the UK would always stick with them, then yes, most people of scotland are going to fuck off and seperate
trashconsidering the choices are slightly shit EU connection and no EU connection at all, when the only reason they stayed beforehand was under the assumption the UK would always stick with them, then yes, most people of scotland are going to fuck off and seperate
The UK does stick with them. They run a defecit, with the price of oil so low England currently subsidises Scotland, good luck getting the EU to do that.
[quote=trash]considering the choices are slightly shit EU connection and no EU connection at all, when the only reason they stayed beforehand was under the assumption the UK would always stick with them, then yes, most people of scotland are going to fuck off and seperate[/quote]
The UK does stick with them. They run a defecit, with the price of oil so low England currently subsidises Scotland, good luck getting the EU to do that.
except this is an issue that all of scotland is united on
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClsuGCbUYAEy5EF.jpg
they see themselves being shoehorned into a scenario they don't want, and the only reason they're still UK is because of the exact thing you tossed out. you're trying to argue like the UK suddenly has all this bargaining to work with, when even in best-case scenarios the UK's just about always getting the shorter end of the stick, even if that results in negatives for other countries
except this is an issue that all of scotland is united on
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClsuGCbUYAEy5EF.jpg[/img]
they see themselves being shoehorned into a scenario they don't want, and the only reason they're still UK is because of the exact thing you tossed out. you're trying to argue like the UK suddenly has all this bargaining to work with, when even in best-case scenarios the UK's just about always getting the shorter end of the stick, even if that results in negatives for other countries
I am going to london in a few days, glad I can get everything for cheap.
I am going to london in a few days, glad I can get everything for cheap.
Next they'll build a wall and make the EU pay for it.
Next they'll build a wall and make the EU pay for it.
trashyou're trying to argue like the UK suddenly has all this bargaining to work with
No I'm not. If they want to leave then they should be allowed. It has nothing to do with bargaining, we shouldn't force them to stay against their will.
[quote=trash]you're trying to argue like the UK suddenly has all this bargaining to work with[/quote]
No I'm not. If they want to leave then they should be allowed. It has nothing to do with bargaining, we shouldn't force them to stay against their will.
As a 17 year old I was really upset by this and it's even worse when I wasn't allowed to vote and I have to live with this while all the old people who voted remain have fucked us over. In the Scottish referendum 16 year olds got to vote I don't see why this was different.
Now we just have to make the best of a bad situation but I'm not optimistic at all.
As a 17 year old I was really upset by this and it's even worse when I wasn't allowed to vote and I have to live with this while all the old people who voted remain have fucked us over. In the Scottish referendum 16 year olds got to vote I don't see why this was different.
Now we just have to make the best of a bad situation but I'm not optimistic at all.
EmilioEstevezHowever the price of oil has taken a nose dive since they lost the independence referendum 62%/38%. They would be choosing poverty if they left unless the price of oil rebounds overnight.
and they're willing to deal with that. I don't think you realize here, the rest of EU is willing to deal with this, even if it hurts their bottom line. the UK, on the flipside, just set themselves up in such a manner where they can't, they need trade agreements eventually, and other countries will be more than willing to take advantage of this fact
this goes for just about every other argument you've made so far. it all relies on the assumption that other countries have to deal with the UK eventually, not realizing that they're always going to be taking a loss because of this, so it's far more effective for them to choke out resources until they get better agreements
[quote=EmilioEstevez]However the price of oil has taken a nose dive since they lost the independence referendum 62%/38%. They would be choosing poverty if they left unless the price of oil rebounds overnight.[/quote]
and they're willing to [i]deal[/i] with that. I don't think you realize here, the rest of EU is willing to deal with this, even if it hurts their bottom line. the UK, on the flipside, just set themselves up in such a manner where they [i]can't[/i], they need trade agreements eventually, and other countries will be more than willing to take advantage of this fact
this goes for just about every other argument you've made so far. it all relies on the assumption that other countries [i]have[/i] to deal with the UK eventually, not realizing that they're always going to be taking a loss because of this, so it's far more effective for them to choke out resources until they get better agreements
It's a hit on the (already stretched to fuck) charity sector as well. Lots of orgs are partly reliant on EU grants and now we've locked ourselves in with a state that pretty much ideologically considers starving and/or impoverished people Society's Problem. Don't lose your job! :)
It's a hit on the (already stretched to fuck) charity sector as well. Lots of orgs are partly reliant on EU grants and now we've locked ourselves in with a state that pretty much ideologically considers starving and/or impoverished people Society's Problem. Don't lose your job! :)
One of the better things to come out this vote is the turnout. The voting station I was working at got 85%+ turnout and in total it was just above 70%. To put that into perspective the turnout to the last local elections (admittedly only for a new police commissioner) was 6% and the last general election was 60% I think.
One of the better things to come out this vote is the turnout. The voting station I was working at got 85%+ turnout and in total it was just above 70%. To put that into perspective the turnout to the last local elections (admittedly only for a new police commissioner) was 6% and the last general election was 60% I think.
[img]https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13516261_254629884910814_8809930254425057083_n.jpg?oh=6139e00fc274fb20a96099528d5e19b4&oe=57FF3776[/img]
Happy UK independence day lads
trashEmilioEstevezHowever the price of oil has taken a nose dive since they lost the independence referendum 62%/38%. They would be choosing poverty if they left unless the price of oil rebounds overnight.
and they're willing to deal with that. I don't think you realize here, the rest of EU is willing to deal with this, even if it hurts their bottom line. the UK, on the flipside, just set themselves up in such a manner where they can't, they need trade agreements eventually, and other countries will be more than willing to take advantage of this fact
this goes for just about every other argument you've made so far. it all relies on the assumption that other countries have to deal with the UK eventually, not realizing that they're always going to be taking a loss because of this, so it's far more effective for them to choke out resources until they get better agreements
There's no guarantee the EU would even accept Scotland.
Also there are plenty of countries we can trade with now that we couldn't because of protectionist EU policies. Food prices are expected to drop for example as we can buy cheaply from NZ/AU now without paying EU tariffs intended to protect European farmers.
[quote=trash][quote=EmilioEstevez]However the price of oil has taken a nose dive since they lost the independence referendum 62%/38%. They would be choosing poverty if they left unless the price of oil rebounds overnight.[/quote]
and they're willing to [i]deal[/i] with that. I don't think you realize here, the rest of EU is willing to deal with this, even if it hurts their bottom line. the UK, on the flipside, just set themselves up in such a manner where they [i]can't[/i], they need trade agreements eventually, and other countries will be more than willing to take advantage of this fact
this goes for just about every other argument you've made so far. it all relies on the assumption that other countries [i]have[/i] to deal with the UK eventually, not realizing that they're always going to be taking a loss because of this, so it's far more effective for them to choke out resources until they get better agreements[/quote]
There's no guarantee the EU would even accept Scotland.
Also there are plenty of countries we can trade with now that we couldn't because of protectionist EU policies. Food prices are expected to drop for example as we can buy cheaply from NZ/AU now without paying EU tariffs intended to protect European farmers.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/QWtbybT.png[/img]
Emilio has a good point, in 2014 when the referendum was close the big issue was "we dont want England to profit on our oil"
now theres another issue of "England just voted to leave the EU and we wanted to stay" but the original issue no longer exists because oil in 2016 isnt what it was in 2014.
Basically you cant say "it was close in 2014 and now we have this new contentious issue so a new vote would almost certainly be in favor of separation" because what made it close in 2014 is no longer a factor
Emilio has a good point, in 2014 when the referendum was close the big issue was "we dont want England to profit on our oil"
now theres another issue of "England just voted to leave the EU and we wanted to stay" but the original issue no longer exists because oil in 2016 isnt what it was in 2014.
Basically you cant say "it was close in 2014 and now we have this new contentious issue so a new vote would almost certainly be in favor of separation" because what made it close in 2014 is no longer a factor
I seem to recall, the EU being brought up during the Scottish referendum, and how they were saying they wanted to be in it.
So nothing has really changed for the SnP in that regard.
I seem to recall, the EU being brought up during the Scottish referendum, and how they were saying they wanted to be in it.
So nothing has really changed for the SnP in that regard.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/L7JMwI1.jpg[/img]
the best way to demonstrate that a group is wrong is by letting them fuck shit up. It's easy to talk shit and use populism, but now, good luck sorting this out England.
the best way to demonstrate that a group is wrong is by letting them fuck shit up. It's easy to talk shit and use populism, but now, good luck sorting this out England.
smh the dumb people overtook that country proper, but perhaps its better this way
http://puu.sh/pEx56/3a766478be.png
smh the dumb people overtook that country proper, but perhaps its better this way
[img]http://puu.sh/pEx56/3a766478be.png[/img]
El_BenoI seem to recall, the EU being brought up during the Scottish referendum, and how they were saying they wanted to be in it.
So nothing has really changed for the SnP in that regard.
They do want to be in the EU, but there's no guarantee the EU wants an independent Scotland. They would have to apply like everyone else, it would take years. Also Scotland in 2016 is much more reliant upon England than Scotland in 2014 was.
I expect there will be another referendum and Scotland will vote to stay again due to the crash in oil prices and the big hole it leaves in their budget without England to pay for it. It's a shame really for the Scottish Nationalists as if they wait they might find a better time to leave us. But it'll be hard for them to argue for a third referendum any time soon, even the last one was supposed to have "settled the matter for a generation".
[quote=El_Beno]I seem to recall, the EU being brought up during the Scottish referendum, and how they were saying they wanted to be in it.
So nothing has really changed for the SnP in that regard.[/quote]
They do want to be in the EU, but there's no guarantee the EU wants an independent Scotland. They would have to apply like everyone else, it would take years. Also Scotland in 2016 is much more reliant upon England than Scotland in 2014 was.
I expect there will be another referendum and Scotland will vote to stay again due to the crash in oil prices and the big hole it leaves in their budget without England to pay for it. It's a shame really for the Scottish Nationalists as if they wait they might find a better time to leave us. But it'll be hard for them to argue for a third referendum any time soon, even the last one was supposed to have "settled the matter for a generation".
trashexcept this is an issue that all of scotland is united on
-38% of voters
Also, who made that retarded chart? There's no PM in Scotland.
[quote=trash]except this is an issue that all of scotland is united on[/quote]
-38% of voters
Also, who made that retarded chart? There's no PM in Scotland.
PlankPlankingtonOne of the better things to come out this vote is the turnout. The voting station I was working at got 85%+ turnout and in total it was just above 70%. To put that into perspective the turnout to the last local elections (admittedly only for a new police commissioner) was 6% and the last general election was 60% I think.
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The polling stations were very appealing to the floating voters.
[quote=PlankPlankington]One of the better things to come out this vote is the turnout. The voting station I was working at got 85%+ turnout and in total it was just above 70%. To put that into perspective the turnout to the last local elections (admittedly only for a new police commissioner) was 6% and the last general election was 60% I think.[/quote]
[spoiler]The polling stations were very appealing to the floating voters.[/spoiler]