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movie looks good but it definitely isn't shot in that star wars style that ep7 managed to replicate really well. guess that's why it's just a supplemental movie tho.
movie looks good but it definitely isn't shot in that star wars style that ep7 managed to replicate really well. guess that's why it's just a supplemental movie tho.
DarkdwarfSpaceGhostsCoffeeWait, the death star isn't cool now? When did that happen?
It's still cool. What's not cool is the beaten horse that is having the resolution of the movie being a small team entering the "death star" to deactivate some shields and then another team blowing it up. That horse is bleeding out on the ground...
Well at least for this movie we know it wont be the plot.
[quote=Darkdwarf][quote=SpaceGhostsCoffee]Wait, the death star isn't cool now? When did that happen?[/quote]
It's still cool. What's not cool is the beaten horse that is having the resolution of the movie being a small team entering the "death star" to deactivate some shields and then another team blowing it up. That horse is bleeding out on the ground...[/quote]
Well at least for this movie we know it wont be the plot.
It's still cool. What's not cool is the beaten horse that is having the resolution of the movie being a small team entering the "death star" to deactivate some shields and then another team blowing it up. That horse is bleeding out on the ground...[/quote]
Well at least for this movie we know it wont be the plot.
Alright, that was incredible. It was literally everything I wanted out of it.
Alright, that was incredible. It was literally everything I wanted out of it.
Loved the second half and the ending. First half had a few i guess awkward moments maybe as a result of the reshoots. Seemed like there was a lot more going on with the Forrest Whitaker character that must have been cut or something because it felt weird.
Loved the second half and the ending. First half had a few i guess awkward moments maybe as a result of the reshoots. Seemed like there was a lot more going on with the Forrest Whitaker character that must have been cut or something because it felt weird.
Amazing movie, very few complaints.
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Last 5 minutes with Vader were NUTTY
Amazing movie, very few complaints.
[spoiler]Last 5 minutes with Vader were NUTTY[/spoiler]
[spoiler]Last 5 minutes with Vader were NUTTY[/spoiler]
Lunacideit was incredible? wow spoilers bro cmon
han solo dies
[quote=Lunacide]it was incredible? wow spoilers bro cmon[/quote]
han solo dies
han solo dies
I am one with the force, and the force is with me
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RIP K2
I am one with the force, and the force is with me
[spoiler]RIP K2[/spoiler]
[spoiler]RIP K2[/spoiler]
much better then the first new one they made but its by Disney so none they ever make will ever be as good as Lucasfilms orignals
much better then the first new one they made but its by Disney so none they ever make will ever be as good as Lucasfilms orignals
It was pretty damn good. Very happy with how it turned out, just like I was with 7. I'll be genuinely surprised if Disney can keep creating star wars movies this great, instead of getting steaming piles of shit like the phantom menace
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although the story line kinda implied it before the movie was even released, it was so great so see them take risks and build up great characters, to then have no problem and the actual guts to kill them off 1 by 1. Definitely didn't expect it to happen to all of them
It was pretty damn good. Very happy with how it turned out, just like I was with 7. I'll be genuinely surprised if Disney can keep creating star wars movies this great, instead of getting steaming piles of shit like the phantom menace
very spoiler
[spoiler]although the story line kinda implied it before the movie was even released, it was so great so see them take risks and build up great characters, to then have no problem and the actual guts to kill them off 1 by 1. Definitely didn't expect it to happen to [u]all[/u] of them[/spoiler]
very spoiler
[spoiler]although the story line kinda implied it before the movie was even released, it was so great so see them take risks and build up great characters, to then have no problem and the actual guts to kill them off 1 by 1. Definitely didn't expect it to happen to [u]all[/u] of them[/spoiler]
i thought the first two acts were terrible but the last act was amazing and worth the ticket price
they could have cut down on the first two acts by like half an hour and i would have been happier
i thought the first two acts were terrible but the last act was amazing and worth the ticket price
they could have cut down on the first two acts by like half an hour and i would have been happier
they could have cut down on the first two acts by like half an hour and i would have been happier
Vader was pretty great, overall I thought the story was well-thought BUT Jyn's character was kind of underwhelming overall, compared to other characters.
Vader was pretty great, overall I thought the story was well-thought BUT Jyn's character was kind of underwhelming overall, compared to other characters.
I'm sorry I really don't understand how people are praising this movie, it just straight up sucked for the most part and felt more like a war movie that borrowed assets of star wars rather than anything else.
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It's pros are it had: Shiro, a blind monk(?) who follows the force and his friend, Gavin who was a scientist that had a noble sacrifice for creating the death star that I genuinely enjoyed. Some of the planets had legitimately cool and unique designs. Otherwise not much I can think of. The pilot was legitimately interesting in how he changed throughout the movie and deserves a MVP award with what he does, and Gavin's rival, the battle director, is pretty interesting with how his problems with the empire arise and how he is fucked by bureaucracy and is at times inept considering his high rank in the empire. Shiro has the sort of Ben Kenobi vibe where you can actually believe in the Force and see its power, making this sort of magical element trump dystopian science, and it felt really nice just seeing him do stuff in each scene.
Cons: To preface this, the idea of this kind of movie works when you feel genuine comfort and care for the characters, and still want them to succeed even if you know the outcome of what happens(which is talk about in episode four very briefly).
The main cast of characters sucked for the most part. Cassian was just a random smug assassin(?) who was unlikeable from the start and gets a random change of heart near the end with 0 preface to him. The entire time I hated what he was doing because it felt inauthentic and forced, like a shoddy C-rate Han Solo rather than a unique character. K2 had some alright moments with his deadpan humor but lacked any sort of major involvement other than the end of the movie. He literally sat and did nothing for a lot of the movie while pouring out bullshit statistics on chances of success and was wrong every single time, leading me to never believe what he had to say based on the scenario(He was a strategist droid that couldnt predict strategy to save his life and that never was embraced or anything, it was just him being wrong). The pilot went insane after being mindfucked by the tentacle beast then reverts to normal in the very next scene, with zero trauma after interaction. They made Solgareo some crucial person in the first act, only to establish backstory with jyn that really doesn't make sense after he saves her and then have an idiotic death that was by and far unnecessary.
The dialogue felt synthetic and inhumane, and made me disgusted at cheesy lines like "there hasn't been a day where I thought about you", and everyone just felt like they were pouring out words for the sake of doing so, unlike in 4/5/6 where there was banter between Han and anyone else, or just seem like the people who were talking to each other real, believable people. I understand that only two people followed the force but still it felt like the hope that came from some of the main cast wasn't because they have some sort of realistic progression, but moreso that it was just forced in and that they were stubborn on the subject or expected to change for the story to try and wrap itself up.
Creatively the sound score sucked ass, the first planet that characters are spending the first act on is Tatooine v3, and the CGI grossed me out. Tarkin, Leia, and Darth Vader(without suit) looked gross and alien-like, and I hated the stupid fan throwbacks to R2/C3, Leia, and the sorta last scene in general. All of that felt forced in and sorta takes out any imagination in the world of Star Wars.
The camera work in action scenes was cluttered and very hard to follow, along with action scenes taking too long at times managed to bore my 12 year old brother, much less myself.
They also sort of forced a council meeting of the alliance, which was a tad bit boring but understandable until there were people saying they just give up to the empire. They also made the alliance seem like it had its own evils with it hiring assassins, spies, etc.? but once again I feel like it's pointless to give it some sort of unnecessary depth that conflicts with the main point of establishing a democratic government that isnt bent on intergalactic terror to keep the piece.
Finally Vader felt awkward. He felt like an emperor rather than a subject of the emperor, with people grovelling to him, Vader having his own weird self-storage tube without his suit, and with people serving him left and right, even with Tarkin alive. The last scene felt especially awful just because it was a CG Vader hacking and slashing people and it just felt dead, compared to a real human in a black suit cutting people up in e4.
Cons: To preface this, the idea of this kind of movie works when you feel genuine comfort and care for the characters, and still want them to succeed even if you know the outcome of what happens(which is talk about in episode four very briefly).
The main cast of characters sucked for the most part. Cassian was just a random smug assassin(?) who was unlikeable from the start and gets a random change of heart near the end with 0 preface to him. The entire time I hated what he was doing because it felt inauthentic and forced, like a shoddy C-rate Han Solo rather than a unique character. K2 had some alright moments with his deadpan humor but lacked any sort of major involvement other than the end of the movie. He literally sat and did nothing for a lot of the movie while pouring out bullshit statistics on chances of success and was wrong every single time, leading me to never believe what he had to say based on the scenario(He was a strategist droid that couldnt predict strategy to save his life and that never was embraced or anything, it was just him being wrong). The pilot went insane after being mindfucked by the tentacle beast then reverts to normal in the very next scene, with zero trauma after interaction. They made Solgareo some crucial person in the first act, only to establish backstory with jyn that really doesn't make sense after he saves her and then have an idiotic death that was by and far unnecessary.
The dialogue felt synthetic and inhumane, and made me disgusted at cheesy lines like "there hasn't been a day where I thought about you", and everyone just felt like they were pouring out words for the sake of doing so, unlike in 4/5/6 where there was banter between Han and anyone else, or just seem like the people who were talking to each other real, believable people. I understand that only two people followed the force but still it felt like the hope that came from some of the main cast wasn't because they have some sort of realistic progression, but moreso that it was just forced in and that they were stubborn on the subject or expected to change for the story to try and wrap itself up.
Creatively the sound score sucked ass, the first planet that characters are spending the first act on is Tatooine v3, and the CGI grossed me out. Tarkin, Leia, and Darth Vader(without suit) looked gross and alien-like, and I hated the stupid fan throwbacks to R2/C3, Leia, and the sorta last scene in general. All of that felt forced in and sorta takes out any imagination in the world of Star Wars.
The camera work in action scenes was cluttered and very hard to follow, along with action scenes taking too long at times managed to bore my 12 year old brother, much less myself.
They also sort of forced a council meeting of the alliance, which was a tad bit boring but understandable until there were people saying they just give up to the empire. They also made the alliance seem like it had its own evils with it hiring assassins, spies, etc.? but once again I feel like it's pointless to give it some sort of unnecessary depth that conflicts with the main point of establishing a democratic government that isnt bent on intergalactic terror to keep the piece.
Finally Vader felt awkward. He felt like an emperor rather than a subject of the emperor, with people grovelling to him, Vader having his own weird self-storage tube without his suit, and with people serving him left and right, even with Tarkin alive. The last scene felt especially awful just because it was a CG Vader hacking and slashing people and it just felt dead, compared to a real human in a black suit cutting people up in e4.
I wouldnt recommend this movie at all.
I'm sorry I really don't understand how people are praising this movie, it just straight up sucked for the most part and felt more like a war movie that borrowed assets of star wars rather than anything else.
[spoiler]It's pros are it had: Shiro, a blind monk(?) who follows the force and his friend, Gavin who was a scientist that had a noble sacrifice for creating the death star that I genuinely enjoyed. Some of the planets had legitimately cool and unique designs. Otherwise not much I can think of. The pilot was legitimately interesting in how he changed throughout the movie and deserves a MVP award with what he does, and Gavin's rival, the battle director, is pretty interesting with how his problems with the empire arise and how he is fucked by bureaucracy and is at times inept considering his high rank in the empire. Shiro has the sort of Ben Kenobi vibe where you can actually believe in the Force and see its power, making this sort of magical element trump dystopian science, and it felt really nice just seeing him do stuff in each scene.
Cons: To preface this, the idea of this kind of movie works when you feel genuine comfort and care for the characters, and still want them to succeed even if you know the outcome of what happens(which is talk about in episode four very briefly).
The main cast of characters sucked for the most part. Cassian was just a random smug assassin(?) who was unlikeable from the start and gets a random change of heart near the end with 0 preface to him. The entire time I hated what he was doing because it felt inauthentic and forced, like a shoddy C-rate Han Solo rather than a unique character. K2 had some alright moments with his deadpan humor but lacked any sort of major involvement other than the end of the movie. He literally sat and did nothing for a lot of the movie while pouring out bullshit statistics on chances of success and was wrong every single time, leading me to never believe what he had to say based on the scenario(He was a strategist droid that couldnt predict strategy to save his life and that never was embraced or anything, it was just him being wrong). The pilot went insane after being mindfucked by the tentacle beast then reverts to normal in the very next scene, with zero trauma after interaction. They made Solgareo some crucial person in the first act, only to establish backstory with jyn that really doesn't make sense after he saves her and then have an idiotic death that was by and far unnecessary.
The dialogue felt synthetic and inhumane, and made me disgusted at cheesy lines like "there hasn't been a day where I thought about you", and everyone just felt like they were pouring out words for the sake of doing so, unlike in 4/5/6 where there was banter between Han and anyone else, or just seem like the people who were talking to each other real, believable people. I understand that only two people followed the force but still it felt like the hope that came from some of the main cast wasn't because they have some sort of realistic progression, but moreso that it was just forced in and that they were stubborn on the subject or expected to change for the story to try and wrap itself up.
Creatively the sound score sucked ass, the first planet that characters are spending the first act on is Tatooine v3, and the CGI grossed me out. Tarkin, Leia, and Darth Vader(without suit) looked gross and alien-like, and I hated the stupid fan throwbacks to R2/C3, Leia, and the sorta last scene in general. All of that felt forced in and sorta takes out any imagination in the world of Star Wars.
The camera work in action scenes was cluttered and very hard to follow, along with action scenes taking too long at times managed to bore my 12 year old brother, much less myself.
They also sort of forced a council meeting of the alliance, which was a tad bit boring but understandable until there were people saying they just give up to the empire. They also made the alliance seem like it had its own evils with it hiring assassins, spies, etc.? but once again I feel like it's pointless to give it some sort of unnecessary depth that conflicts with the main point of establishing a democratic government that isnt bent on intergalactic terror to keep the piece.
Finally Vader felt awkward. He felt like an emperor rather than a subject of the emperor, with people grovelling to him, Vader having his own weird self-storage tube without his suit, and with people serving him left and right, even with Tarkin alive. The last scene felt especially awful just because it was a CG Vader hacking and slashing people and it just felt dead, compared to a real human in a black suit cutting people up in e4.
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I wouldnt recommend this movie at all.
[spoiler]It's pros are it had: Shiro, a blind monk(?) who follows the force and his friend, Gavin who was a scientist that had a noble sacrifice for creating the death star that I genuinely enjoyed. Some of the planets had legitimately cool and unique designs. Otherwise not much I can think of. The pilot was legitimately interesting in how he changed throughout the movie and deserves a MVP award with what he does, and Gavin's rival, the battle director, is pretty interesting with how his problems with the empire arise and how he is fucked by bureaucracy and is at times inept considering his high rank in the empire. Shiro has the sort of Ben Kenobi vibe where you can actually believe in the Force and see its power, making this sort of magical element trump dystopian science, and it felt really nice just seeing him do stuff in each scene.
Cons: To preface this, the idea of this kind of movie works when you feel genuine comfort and care for the characters, and still want them to succeed even if you know the outcome of what happens(which is talk about in episode four very briefly).
The main cast of characters sucked for the most part. Cassian was just a random smug assassin(?) who was unlikeable from the start and gets a random change of heart near the end with 0 preface to him. The entire time I hated what he was doing because it felt inauthentic and forced, like a shoddy C-rate Han Solo rather than a unique character. K2 had some alright moments with his deadpan humor but lacked any sort of major involvement other than the end of the movie. He literally sat and did nothing for a lot of the movie while pouring out bullshit statistics on chances of success and was wrong every single time, leading me to never believe what he had to say based on the scenario(He was a strategist droid that couldnt predict strategy to save his life and that never was embraced or anything, it was just him being wrong). The pilot went insane after being mindfucked by the tentacle beast then reverts to normal in the very next scene, with zero trauma after interaction. They made Solgareo some crucial person in the first act, only to establish backstory with jyn that really doesn't make sense after he saves her and then have an idiotic death that was by and far unnecessary.
The dialogue felt synthetic and inhumane, and made me disgusted at cheesy lines like "there hasn't been a day where I thought about you", and everyone just felt like they were pouring out words for the sake of doing so, unlike in 4/5/6 where there was banter between Han and anyone else, or just seem like the people who were talking to each other real, believable people. I understand that only two people followed the force but still it felt like the hope that came from some of the main cast wasn't because they have some sort of realistic progression, but moreso that it was just forced in and that they were stubborn on the subject or expected to change for the story to try and wrap itself up.
Creatively the sound score sucked ass, the first planet that characters are spending the first act on is Tatooine v3, and the CGI grossed me out. Tarkin, Leia, and Darth Vader(without suit) looked gross and alien-like, and I hated the stupid fan throwbacks to R2/C3, Leia, and the sorta last scene in general. All of that felt forced in and sorta takes out any imagination in the world of Star Wars.
The camera work in action scenes was cluttered and very hard to follow, along with action scenes taking too long at times managed to bore my 12 year old brother, much less myself.
They also sort of forced a council meeting of the alliance, which was a tad bit boring but understandable until there were people saying they just give up to the empire. They also made the alliance seem like it had its own evils with it hiring assassins, spies, etc.? but once again I feel like it's pointless to give it some sort of unnecessary depth that conflicts with the main point of establishing a democratic government that isnt bent on intergalactic terror to keep the piece.
Finally Vader felt awkward. He felt like an emperor rather than a subject of the emperor, with people grovelling to him, Vader having his own weird self-storage tube without his suit, and with people serving him left and right, even with Tarkin alive. The last scene felt especially awful just because it was a CG Vader hacking and slashing people and it just felt dead, compared to a real human in a black suit cutting people up in e4.
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I wouldnt recommend this movie at all.
i took it as a spin off and tried to keep it separate from any actual star wars movie. resulted in me enjoying it. i think if you go in expecting episode 7.5 you're gonna be disappointed. had a star wars vibe but was very clearly not star wars.
i took it as a spin off and tried to keep it separate from any actual star wars movie. resulted in me enjoying it. i think if you go in expecting episode 7.5 you're gonna be disappointed. had a star wars vibe but was very clearly not star wars.
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