saamthere's a massive difference between new players who want improve and crybabies who don't realize they can't get on teams because they have no idea what improving or being part of a team actually means.
i think i do a decent amount for new players who actually care about improving in terms of mentoring but no i'm not gunna sugarcoat the truth which is if you can't find a good team the overwhelmingly likely reason is that you're not a good player
mentor me saam
[quote=saam]there's a massive difference between new players who want improve and crybabies who don't realize they can't get on teams because they have no idea what improving or being part of a team actually means.
i think i do a decent amount for new players who actually care about improving in terms of mentoring but no i'm not gunna sugarcoat the truth which is if you can't find a good team the overwhelmingly likely reason is that you're not a good player[/quote]
mentor me saam
I want a team that is on par with my level or hopefully even greater. I put super hard work in this game with practicing dm,pugging,jumping and reviewing demos when I don't feel like it out of discipline and the only people who have given me tryouts are low - mid teams. I guess this is how it is to be a noname UGC player with one season of Open. I've improved so well and have a very easy time analyzing things I do wrong and changing them and I still hate it when I do good in a pug,against some recognizable open players, then the next pug starts and I don't get picked over them even though I outplayed them. I want to make it to high open but my entry is being barred for being a nameless player and I really fucking hate it
I want a team that is on par with my level or hopefully even greater. I put super hard work in this game with practicing dm,pugging,jumping and reviewing demos when I don't feel like it out of discipline and the only people who have given me tryouts are low - mid teams. I guess this is how it is to be a noname UGC player with one season of Open. I've improved so well and have a very easy time analyzing things I do wrong and changing them and I still hate it when I do good in a pug,against some recognizable open players, then the next pug starts and I don't get picked over them even though I outplayed them. I want to make it to high open but my entry is being barred for being a nameless player and I really fucking hate it
If you are convinced that you can't get picked up on a team because of circlejerks just make a team. This game needs it anyway. If people tryout and don't stay it's because you aren't as good as you think/or they don't like you. Nobody would pick me up in my first season of ESEA so I just made a team, and I'm glad I did, I made way more friends that way.
Flatline I haven't been around too long but I can already see that you're trying out for a team with milan on it, so I don't really trust your judgement in looking for stable teams. I also haven't seen you get better. As much I don't like saam or the way he treats others I have to agree with him. I also have to point out that there a lot of people who play roamer in this community so finding positions is marginally harder. Good roamers sometimes have to stoop down a little bit just because there are so many roamers looking. I guess this is an example of inflation? I'm not sure who got starter roamer spots over you in the past but I can tell you that p3nguin is far better than you (of course that's the only example I have).
I understand I have only been playing this game seriously for ~6 months but I have been able to play two full seasons in which I have been able to improve, so I feel like my word is worth something, even though I do believe some people have been unlucky with teams folding.
- If you aren't getting tryouts you can always make your own team
- If you aren't getting tryouts or you aren't getting picked up you are probably overestimating your skill level
- If you tryout for a team with player like milan, billdozer, neo, etc. just jump ship before you waste your own time because that shit is going to die and you won't get anything from it (it's really not hard to tell who these players and teams are) @megalinx
- If you take a season off you are not going to be as good you would be and people know that
Even though people may not be egotistical retards they don't realize that they are legitimately not as good as other players. People also tend to make strong first impressions and don't realize people get a lot better over time. (This is something I have had trouble with). Ex-Power Pug mains have made it to IM playoffs, (and I can think of one who made it to invite) because they have legitimately gotten better. Rather than focusing on not getting picked up just focus on getting better, because everyone else is getting better in the mean time.
If you are convinced that you can't get picked up on a team because of circlejerks just make a team. This game needs it anyway. If people tryout and don't stay it's because you aren't as good as you think/or they don't like you. Nobody would pick me up in my first season of ESEA so I just made a team, and I'm glad I did, I made way more friends that way.
Flatline I haven't been around too long but I can already see that you're trying out for a team with milan on it, so I don't really trust your judgement in looking for stable teams. I also haven't seen you get better. As much I don't like saam or the way he treats others I have to agree with him. I also have to point out that there a lot of people who play roamer in this community so finding positions is marginally harder. Good roamers sometimes have to stoop down a little bit just because there are so many roamers looking. I guess this is an example of inflation? I'm not sure who got starter roamer spots over you in the past but I can tell you that p3nguin is far better than you (of course that's the only example I have).
I understand I have only been playing this game seriously for ~6 months but I have been able to play two full seasons in which I have been able to improve, so I feel like my word is worth something, even though I do believe some people have been unlucky with teams folding.
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[*] If you aren't getting tryouts you can always make your own team
[*] If you aren't getting tryouts or you aren't getting picked up you are probably overestimating your skill level
[*] If you tryout for a team with player like milan, billdozer, neo, etc. just jump ship before you waste your own time because that shit is going to die and you won't get anything from it (it's really not hard to tell who these players and teams are) @megalinx
[*] If you take a season off you are not going to be as good you would be and people know that
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Even though people may not be egotistical retards they don't realize that they are legitimately not as good as other players. People also tend to make strong first impressions and don't realize people get a lot better over time. (This is something I have had trouble with). Ex-Power Pug mains have made it to IM playoffs, (and I can think of one who made it to invite) because they have legitimately gotten better. Rather than focusing on not getting picked up just focus on getting better, because everyone else is getting better in the mean time.
@lias neo wasn't on the team at the start he was the reason I was moved to backup Neo killed the roster when playoff time came I was happy to take his spot just really salty that circlejerking got me moved to backup in a dumb way and I didn't get my playoff chance :/
@lias neo wasn't on the team at the start he was the reason I was moved to backup Neo killed the roster when playoff time came I was happy to take his spot just really salty that circlejerking got me moved to backup in a dumb way and I didn't get my playoff chance :/
I know he wasn't on the team at the same time, the point I'm trying to make is you attempted to play with billdozer two seasons in a row. You should also consider a little punctuation because you're starting to sound like neo.
I know he wasn't on the team at the same time, the point I'm trying to make is you attempted to play with billdozer two seasons in a row. You should also consider a little punctuation because you're starting to sound like neo.
Always having to play on 80-120 ping is fucking retarded. East coast players bitching when they have to play on a server that isn't in Chicago/New York where they might have over 30 ping is just as retarded.
Always having to play on 80-120 ping is fucking retarded. East coast players bitching when they have to play on a server that isn't in Chicago/New York where they might have over 30 ping is just as retarded.
Milan isn't on the team afaik and I wasn't a fan of playing with him either
The last three seasons were me making teams with people. I initiated both bruiser brigade and saving private im, and I kept aliasing lefty together at the end of s18. I stopped making teams because I was tired of trying to cobble together six players every season just for the team to die
Milan isn't on the team afaik and I wasn't a fan of playing with him either
The last three seasons were me making teams with people. I initiated both bruiser brigade and saving private im, and I kept aliasing lefty together at the end of s18. I stopped making teams because I was tired of trying to cobble together six players every season just for the team to die
i'm still upset we live in a world where wrech has won IM
i'm still upset we live in a world where wrech has won IM
flatlineMilan isn't on the team afaik and I wasn't a fan of playing with him either
The last three seasons were me making teams with people. I initiated both bruiser brigade and saving private im, and I kept aliasing lefty together at the end of s18. I stopped making teams because I was tired of trying to cobble together six players every season just for the team to die
Milan is on Jaguar's IM team I think...
[quote=flatline]Milan isn't on the team afaik and I wasn't a fan of playing with him either
The last three seasons were me making teams with people. I initiated both bruiser brigade and saving private im, and I kept aliasing lefty together at the end of s18. I stopped making teams because I was tired of trying to cobble together six players every season just for the team to die[/quote]
Milan is on Jaguar's IM team I think...
I want to get into Comp Sci research but will probably end up getting the usual boring programming job :(
I want to get into Comp Sci research but will probably end up getting the usual boring programming job :(
liasIf you are convinced that you can't get picked up on a team because of circlejerks just make a team.
This game would be much larger if people stopped being lazy and just made their own teams. It's really not hard, and there's no shortage of players. https://puu.sh/qHSuN/b1349e24e0.png
[quote=lias]If you are convinced that you can't get picked up on a team because of circlejerks [b]just make a team.[/b][/quote]
This game would be much larger if people stopped being lazy and just made their own teams. It's really not hard, and there's no shortage of players. https://puu.sh/qHSuN/b1349e24e0.png
my weed dealer hasnt texted me in over a month...
my weed dealer hasnt texted me in over a month...
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it litearlly seems like the reason u feel like ur not getting better is because u keep playing for the same bottom of the barrel im team in attempts of saving it. just play high open lol
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it litearlly seems like the reason u feel like ur not getting better is because u keep playing for the same bottom of the barrel im team in attempts of saving it. just play high open lol
PugChamp is fucking retarded because you never get picked if people don't know you, really miss TF2Pickup.
Also its full of passive aggressive cringelords like Scorpion.
PugChamp is fucking retarded because you never get picked if people don't know you, really miss TF2Pickup.
Also its full of passive aggressive cringelords like Scorpion.
biskuitPugChamp is fucking retarded because you never get picked if people don't know you, really miss TF2Pickup.
Also its full of passive aggressive cringelords like Scorpion.
agreed about scorpion, but its really not that bad...
[quote=biskuit]PugChamp is fucking retarded because you never get picked if people don't know you, really miss TF2Pickup.
Also its full of passive aggressive cringelords like Scorpion.[/quote]
agreed about scorpion, but its really not that bad...
i really love this game, but im not motivated at all to play pugs/mixes and improve at it.
also watching matches isnt fun for me either, wish it was
wish, it was there man
i really love this game, but im not motivated at all to play pugs/mixes and improve at it.
also watching matches isnt fun for me either, wish it was
wish, it was there man
when 1 guy spam twitch memes that he created himself on the spot but their the only person spamming it awkward asf
example
[img]http://puu.sh/qI7Rj/651b4fe5ba.png[/img]
[img]http://puu.sh/qI7SV/1713b969cf.jpg[/img]
[img]http://puu.sh/qI805/9e1941c56a.png[/img]
[img]http://puu.sh/qI85D/10420a242a.png[/img]
I hate when East Coast players or people who live in Chicago play on a Colorado or Dallas server and complain that they have 30 ping instead of 5 ping. How do you think we feel on the West Coast when we regularly play with 80-90 ping. Like I'm happy when I get 60 ping and they're still complaining that they have 30
I hate when East Coast players or people who live in Chicago play on a Colorado or Dallas server and complain that they have 30 ping instead of 5 ping. How do you think we feel on the West Coast when we regularly play with 80-90 ping. Like I'm happy when I get 60 ping and they're still complaining that they have 30
A lot of people I play with are not happy with themselves and it pains me to see that.
A lot of people I play with are not happy with themselves and it pains me to see that.
Max_I hate when East Coast players or people who live in Chicago play on a Colorado or Dallas server and complain that they have 30 ping instead of 5 ping. How do you think we feel on the West Coast when we regularly play with 80-90 ping. Like I'm happy when I get 60 ping and they're still complaining that they have 30
no!!! please be trolling me... everything about your post is incorrect. chicago is the only viable server location for na and i know most people will agree with me. not only is dallas a terrible location to host servers they all have brutal routing compared to chicago.
[quote=Max_]I hate when East Coast players or people who live in Chicago play on a Colorado or Dallas server and complain that they have 30 ping instead of 5 ping. How do you think we feel on the West Coast when we regularly play with 80-90 ping. Like I'm happy when I get 60 ping and they're still complaining that they have 30[/quote]
no!!! please be trolling me... everything about your post is incorrect. chicago is the only viable server location for na and i know most people will agree with me. not only is dallas a terrible location to host servers they all have brutal routing compared to chicago.
i should have made a new account when i returned to tf2. all of my dumbfuck 14-year-old shit talking plus other dumb shit i did will never escape me because of how small the community is. i try to be chill when it's brought up because i recognize my faults and there's no use in being defensive, but man it eats me up whenever i think about it. the worst part is, every player i talked shit to who still plays is really fucking good now because of how long it's been
i keep trying to play my old main in pugs to relive the glory days or whatever bullshit, but every ounce of ability I had in that class is completely 100% gone so i just make myself look like a fucking idiot every time
part of me regrets ever quitting tf2 even though i advanced so much in real life during that time (went outside, had friends, fell in love with music, decided on a career/college major, etc) which is fucking dumb because it's just a game, but i always imagine where i'd be skill-wise right now if i hadn't quit
tl;dr i'm angry at video games
i should have made a new account when i returned to tf2. all of my dumbfuck 14-year-old shit talking plus other dumb shit i did will never escape me because of how small the community is. i try to be chill when it's brought up because i recognize my faults and there's no use in being defensive, but man it eats me up whenever i think about it. the worst part is, every player i talked shit to who still plays is really fucking good now because of how long it's been
i keep trying to play my old main in pugs to relive the glory days or whatever bullshit, but every ounce of ability I had in that class is completely 100% gone so i just make myself look like a fucking idiot every time
part of me regrets ever quitting tf2 even though i advanced so much in real life during that time (went outside, had friends, fell in love with music, decided on a career/college major, etc) which is fucking dumb because it's just a game, but i always imagine where i'd be skill-wise right now if i hadn't quit
tl;dr i'm angry at video games
i need open scouts but theyre all trying to play IM :/
i need open scouts but theyre all trying to play IM :/
-protoMax_I hate when East Coast players or people who live in Chicago play on a Colorado or Dallas server and complain that they have 30 ping instead of 5 ping. How do you think we feel on the West Coast when we regularly play with 80-90 ping. Like I'm happy when I get 60 ping and they're still complaining that they have 30
no!!! please be trolling me... everything about your post is incorrect. chicago is the only viable server location for na and i know most people will agree with me. not only is dallas a terrible location to host servers they all have brutal routing compared to chicago.
Most people will agree with you because they live on the East Coast. I've seen so many people complain when they have 30 ping instead of the 5-10 they are used to
What is wrong with Colorado servers? Last time I played on one literally all 12 people in the server were withing 10 ping of one another and 60 ping for 12 people is reasonable
[quote=-proto][quote=Max_]I hate when East Coast players or people who live in Chicago play on a Colorado or Dallas server and complain that they have 30 ping instead of 5 ping. How do you think we feel on the West Coast when we regularly play with 80-90 ping. Like I'm happy when I get 60 ping and they're still complaining that they have 30[/quote]
no!!! please be trolling me... everything about your post is incorrect. chicago is the only viable server location for na and i know most people will agree with me. not only is dallas a terrible location to host servers they all have brutal routing compared to chicago.[/quote]
Most people will agree with you because they live on the East Coast. I've seen so many people complain when they have 30 ping instead of the 5-10 they are used to
What is wrong with Colorado servers? Last time I played on one literally all 12 people in the server were withing 10 ping of one another and 60 ping for 12 people is reasonable
Max_-protoMax_I hate when East Coast players or people who live in Chicago play on a Colorado or Dallas server and complain that they have 30 ping instead of 5 ping. How do you think we feel on the West Coast when we regularly play with 80-90 ping. Like I'm happy when I get 60 ping and they're still complaining that they have 30
no!!! please be trolling me... everything about your post is incorrect. chicago is the only viable server location for na and i know most people will agree with me. not only is dallas a terrible location to host servers they all have brutal routing compared to chicago.
Most people will agree with you because they live on the East Coast. I've seen so many people complain when they have 30 ping instead of the 5-10 they are used to
What is wrong with Colorado servers? Last time I played on one literally all 12 people in the server were withing 10 ping of one another and 60 ping for 12 people is reasonable
pretty sure corsa is the only person who complains about <30 ping
[quote=Max_][quote=-proto][quote=Max_]I hate when East Coast players or people who live in Chicago play on a Colorado or Dallas server and complain that they have 30 ping instead of 5 ping. How do you think we feel on the West Coast when we regularly play with 80-90 ping. Like I'm happy when I get 60 ping and they're still complaining that they have 30[/quote]
no!!! please be trolling me... everything about your post is incorrect. chicago is the only viable server location for na and i know most people will agree with me. not only is dallas a terrible location to host servers they all have brutal routing compared to chicago.[/quote]
Most people will agree with you because they live on the East Coast. I've seen so many people complain when they have 30 ping instead of the 5-10 they are used to
What is wrong with Colorado servers? Last time I played on one literally all 12 people in the server were withing 10 ping of one another and 60 ping for 12 people is reasonable[/quote]
pretty sure corsa is the only person who complains about <30 ping
i wish people took the effort to be a little nicer to others. its not hard; theres joking (with friends) and theres being a total dick, and i think a large amount of people have trouble distingushing between the two.
i wish people wouldnt sit and shit talk people they call their friends behind their backs like freshman girls with bad intent, if you have a problem with someone you should stop being a pussy and just say it to them directly.
i wish people took the effort to be a little nicer to others. its not hard; theres joking (with friends) and theres being a total dick, and i think a large amount of people have trouble distingushing between the two.
i wish people wouldnt sit and shit talk people they call their friends behind their backs like freshman girls with bad intent, if you have a problem with someone you should stop being a pussy and just say it to them directly.
Wtf I live in NY and I get 100 ping to Chicago servers
You guys who get more than .25 down and less than 60 ping cause you don't live in a rural area quit your bitching whether you be East or West
Wtf I live in NY and I get 100 ping to Chicago servers
You guys who get more than .25 down and less than 60 ping cause you don't live in a rural area quit your bitching whether you be East or West