Pick your battles if you cant win don't take the fight try and make the soldier waste his rockets with your surrounding.

More talking about mge, where you cant run away.

scouts tend to win when both are played at the highest level
soldiers tend to win when both players are pretty average

all i can say about scout v soldier is that backward/forward dodging should mess up their rockets more so than side to side. other than that just try to stay in the air a lot

from my experience the person that approaches generally loses so take that as u will

scouts beats soldier usually but on some maps with unatainable highground like gran mid or last it would be harder for a scout but on maps like viaduct and badlands mid you should have an advantage because while he has more health he you can literally just dodge everything if you have good movement but jumping on stuff. but alot of it is just skill in mge and not as much class.

if soldier has shotgun, he should always win no matter what map

How exactly can you work on your movement? I get very stressed and miss a lot of shots when mgeing and I am losing.

I was thinking similiar because it takes the shotgun two shots to kill a overhealed scout but it takes the scout three to take down a overhealed soldier.

Only in highest of level, if mid level he prob doesnt have good enough shotgun aim

just remember that you are you are there to just practice your dm and movement and stuff and to have some fun. its not like a match so you don't need to get mad. I have had that kind of problem in the past but just remembering its just practice and doesn't mean much helped.

Focus on airstrafing constantly, helps a huge amount vs sollies.
Sometimes playing soldier can help as you'll see what enemy scouts do that throws you off

If you aren't already fragging gunboats soldiers into mushy lasagna you just need to play more

Scout Is the Best Class In The Entire Universe

@Orang3 I think you said in a previous post here that you get really low FPS, like 20-30

I have a 60hz monitor and i just about get those 60 frames consistently, and I know it hinders me. I can't imagine playing with unstable fps below half that, I assure you that if you find a way to get better FPS it'll be like playing a whole different game, especially playing scout.

Overall, scouts counter soldiers in 1v1s as long as they have some terrain to work with, and aren't in enclosed spaces. Don't tunnel-vision 1v1s, though :)

if you get mad at losing in mge /hud removes the score so you can just focus on practicing

Oh yeah that was me, but i built a new computer with a 14;hz monitor and have 300fps now ;) thx though.

depends on the environment

if a scout runs into badlands lunchbox and theres a soldier there, all the soldier has to do is click his mouse twice while literally aiming anywhere and its a free pick

but in badlands middle favors scout a little bit i think

in most cases pocket > scout > roamer when it comes to 1v1s imo

In every map except for granary middle scout has a huge advantage, specially on viaduct, badlands middle and process

So pretty much a scout counters soldier even with shotgun?

I feel like you're looking too hard for a sure fire "Soldier always beats scout" or vice versa.

A scout who has good movement can absolutely embarrass soldiers, but a soldier with good aim/prediction can also shut down scouts, probably a lot easier with the shotgun, but also possible with gunboats

Just curious what are the downvotes for? Someone said that soldier with shotgun beats scout and I was agreeing and stating why, did I say something wrong?

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its like that scene from matrix

it's really quite difficult to give a definitive and correct answer to class > class. as lackluster and unfulfilling as it is to hear this, certain classes work better in certain scenarios :/

Probably because saying a soldier can kill a overhealed scout in 2 shots with his shotgun is about as accurate as saying a med only needs 2 arrows to kill the enemy med.

I mean if neither player misses a single shot and always does perfect damage, the soldier should always win (if neither player is hurt before the fight) because shotguns and scatterguns are practically identical and soldiers have 75 more health

In reality though a soldier is less mobile, so even though he has the same damage output and more health, he's still probably more likely to lose since he has less mobility (and inversely, the scout has more mobility, so he can dodge)

This doesn't factor in player skill though, or really any game variables. Pre-fight health, positioning (does one player get the jump on another?), etc can all vastly change the outcome. A shotgun soldier will always do better against a scout than a gunboats one though.

Soldiers win with positioning. Scouts win by choosing appropriate times to take the fight. The end.

it is a duel of to noob or not to noob

Remember kids: Rocket jumping is not an option vs scouts