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eee>if I only listened to the Mainstream Media and

Why exactly do you assume that the mainstream media is biased but your alternative sources aren't?

If you think that the mainstream media isn't biased you're just ignoring facts. Read the wikileaks links (which are obviously real on reputation and content, but Clinton even confirmed it at debate 2) and it becomes apparent very quickly that the majority of mainstream media has become an extension of the Clinton campaign. Wikileaks isn't biased because it's direct communication between individuals in the Clinton campaign. I don't understand how you could possibly ever thing that emails between two parties could somehow be biased because of where they are released.
Also you have spent so many posts attacking Trump supporters but you never actually make any arguments for voting for Clinton over him. Calling the people you disagree with stupid isn't really an argument regardless of what your experience shitposting on forums has taught you. Arguing policy is a waste of time at this point because you aren't going to convince anybody of anything; If they agree with you then they agree with you and if they don't then they don't. People aren't changing their opinions of stuff like immigration policy or TPP over a shitpost on a forum.
Sure Trump is a moron but at least you know what he stands for and at least he isn't corrupted completely. Clinton has left thousands of people to die for personal vendettas, rigged elections (which in all honesty probably didn't even need to be rigged), used a nonprofit as a front for taking bribes and campaign funding, planted members at opposing rallies to incite violence, helped try to downplay her husbands many sexual assaults, and broke every law in the book regarding handling of classified information many times over. Trump said he was going to grab a woman by the pussy (xD) and called rosie odonnell a pig (she is). I think Trump is a more responsible vote because he'll probably just sit there for 4 years doing basically nothing whereas Clinton will undoubtedly do everything in her power to further her personal wealth and career regardless of the law. Really even if you completely disagree with Trump's policy and hate his personality it's not worth voting for somebody more corrupt than Nixon imo.

Reading this thread all I see is a bunch of Trump supporters giving evidence and a bunch of Clinton supporters saying they're wrong with no evidence. SeemsGood. Also what's the point of all this arguing when Clinton basically owns the voting machine industry and that's all you need (and lack of morals I guess but we already know she has that xD).

[quote=eee]
>if I only listened to the Mainstream Media and

Why exactly do you assume that the mainstream media is biased but your alternative sources aren't?

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If you think that the mainstream media isn't biased you're just ignoring facts. Read the wikileaks links (which are obviously real on reputation and content, but Clinton even confirmed it at debate 2) and it becomes apparent very quickly that the majority of mainstream media has become an extension of the Clinton campaign. Wikileaks isn't biased because it's direct communication between individuals in the Clinton campaign. I don't understand how you could possibly ever thing that emails between two parties could somehow be biased because of where they are released.
Also you have spent so many posts attacking Trump supporters but you never actually make any arguments for voting for Clinton over him. Calling the people you disagree with stupid isn't really an argument regardless of what your experience shitposting on forums has taught you. Arguing policy is a waste of time at this point because you aren't going to convince anybody of anything; If they agree with you then they agree with you and if they don't then they don't. People aren't changing their opinions of stuff like immigration policy or TPP over a shitpost on a forum.
Sure Trump is a moron but at least you know what he stands for and at least he isn't corrupted completely. Clinton has left thousands of people to die for personal vendettas, rigged elections (which in all honesty probably didn't even need to be rigged), used a nonprofit as a front for taking bribes and campaign funding, planted members at opposing rallies to incite violence, helped try to downplay her husbands many sexual assaults, and broke every law in the book regarding handling of classified information many times over. Trump said he was going to grab a woman by the pussy (xD) and called rosie odonnell a pig (she is). I think Trump is a more responsible vote because he'll probably just sit there for 4 years doing basically nothing whereas Clinton will undoubtedly do everything in her power to further her personal wealth and career regardless of the law. Really even if you completely disagree with Trump's policy and hate his personality it's not worth voting for somebody more corrupt than Nixon imo.

Reading this thread all I see is a bunch of Trump supporters giving evidence and a bunch of Clinton supporters saying they're wrong with no evidence. SeemsGood. Also what's the point of all this arguing when Clinton basically owns the voting machine industry and that's all you need (and lack of morals I guess but we already know she has that xD).
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HedoKingogluTERRYCREWSHedoKingogluhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IuJGHuIkzY

I think the fact that there's so much open corruption against him should tell you who to vote.

Not a fan of either candidate but what about the massive amount of sex assault accusations against him? Does that not factor into your opinions at all?

I can rally 10 of my friends and throw an accusation that you groped me. It doesn't make it 100 percent true.

When the media(dems) do not like someone, they prepare to sling shit at that person repeadetly. That is what happened to Rudy Guiliani, its what happened to Julian Assange and its what happened to Bernie (in his case, the media gave him the Ron Paul treatment of "you can't win the primary) and its what's happening to Trump now which btw if you check wikileaks you will see that Hillary rigged the primaries with Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who is now on board of directors of the Clinton campaign or smth right after she resigned.
Small note: Tim Kaine was promised a VP spot on july 2015. He also was the old DNC chairman b4 DWS took over. But its probably a coincidence right guise :^)

Hold on, you're defending Assange?? The same guy Republicans were attacking night and day over wikileaks a few years ago! Don't try to pretend that you guys always loved him. Same goes for Democrats. Each party uses his information, and once finished slandering, go right back to attacking him.

Also the first allegation and many other allegations have been debunked. There are emails where the accusers are connected to the Clinton Campaign. If you don't like, there are some people who say that "they got raped by Trump a long time ago" were praising Trump in their private emails. I wouldn't praise my rapist now would I?

Also its pretty funny that all of these people jumped in and started to accuse Trump when there's 1 month left for the election.
"Hey I got groped 20 years ago! But I'll wait till the time is somehow right"
Also check wikileaks and you will see that this attack was orchestrated 3-4 months ago by the media and Clinton Campaign. I can just dump all the links if you people are too lazy to do your own research.

Trump is grasping at straws making the same accusations back at Clinton. To start with Bill Clinton is not running. Granted, I'd much prefer it if I had Bill Clinton instead of his wife as President, but at the end of the day, he's not even attacking the right person. I'm not going to debate that the Clintons organized this attack, but what I will say is that isn't Fox News considered to be, following what they say about themselves, a mainstream media source? Granted, they have't exactly supported Trump completely, but neither have other sites for Hillary.
ScrewballHedoKingogluI think the fact that there's so much open corruption against him should tell you who to vote.Because the republican party and millionaires are not known for corruption. No sir. Trump is a buffoon and gets called out as such in media. He is such a buffoon that not even the US elites want him because him coming to power would be a textbook case of accelerationism. This doesn't make Hillery better. I am of the personal opinion that they both deserve to be shot. But to say that Trump is getting more negative press for no reason is lunacy.
So you think that Trump's sex allegations deserve 200 minutes of press while wikileaks only deserves 12 minutes (which most are from Fox News) and that it is completely fine? Oh wait, according to CNN; it is actually ILLEGAL to look at wikileaks emails and only the press can show the info to the public. Wow I suppose 1984 really was an instruction manual after all :^)

Last I checked, the Patriot Act was passed under a Republican President. While Clinton certainly supports it as well, it was neither her nor was it her husband's administration that passed that unconstitutional piece of shit into law. And while whoever is elected president will continue to renew it, I just want the record straight as to who established it. Note: Sanders actually voted against it (I wish he was the nominee).

Also do you unironically believe in the following:

That Republican Party elitists support Trump
That he was supposed to get support from the elites in the first place like Hillary?
That calling Trump a buffoon repeadetly like a little kindergarten studennt will make your point acceptable?

I have no idea where you're getting the idea that Trump invested 100 million into his campaign is coming from. The pretty consistent number from my research has been around 50 million. Also, don't give me the "self funded" argument. Trump has financed about 1/3 of his campaign, which is a hefty amount, but him calling my house asking for money doesn't incline me to give to him. Trump is worth, from what I've found, about 3.7 billion. That 50 million he spent on his campaign is chump change. Also, he's not even self made. He still won't release his tax returns for the reason of "I'm being audited" even though the IRS actually came out and said that they are not prohibiting Trump from releasing them. Also, his attacks on Buffet, an actual self-made man, were vile, and blew up in his face when Buffet released all his tax returns since 1944, showing that he never used the "carry forward" loophole. I also have a hard time justifying supporting a man who tries to avoid paying people, like contractors, who worked for him.

You can easily fling bullshit about "Trump Corruption" that are factually proven to be debunked and incorrect constantly. But if you really think that someone who invests 100 million dollars to his own presidential campaign and does not suck up to the lobbyist is going to be a "corrupt president". Then you really have no idea what the hell you are talking about.

I can't really blame you, I would hate Trump too if I only listened to the Mainstream Media and refused to watch his rallies or his events. The difference is, some people make their own research and use common sense while some people would rather throw a temper tantrum over things they do not like.

Speaking of foreign policy, I wonder how Trump is viewed in Europe? When I was there (for a year in France last year) I met very, very few people that supported him, and I was in a region (the north) that was voting extreme right. So just image wise, Trump is giving us a bad name already. Do you really think it'll get much better if he's president? And since the U.S. is a "failed nation" why don't you tell me how we're arrogant enough to think that we need to take a leadership position in the world. And I posit to you this: When was the last time America was great, in your opinion?

I've read the things you've written to others in response when it comes to foreign politics and you sound a little like Trump over the fact of the US' failed nation building and the stupid things that the US does in the foreign policy. I would advise you to watch the Commander in Chief forum and the South Carolina GOP primary debate so you can see what I am talking about.
[quote=HedoKingoglu][quote=TERRYCREWS][quote=HedoKingoglu]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IuJGHuIkzY

I think the fact that there's so much open corruption against him should tell you who to vote.[/quote]

Not a fan of either candidate but what about the massive amount of sex assault accusations against him? Does that not factor into your opinions at all?[/quote]

I can rally 10 of my friends and throw an accusation that you groped me. It doesn't make it 100 percent true.

When the media(dems) do not like someone, they prepare to sling shit at that person repeadetly. That is what happened to Rudy Guiliani, its what happened to Julian Assange and its what happened to Bernie (in his case, the media gave him the Ron Paul treatment of "you can't win the primary) and its what's happening to Trump now which btw if you check wikileaks you will see that Hillary rigged the primaries with Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who is now on board of directors of the Clinton campaign or smth right after she resigned.
Small note: Tim Kaine was promised a VP spot on july 2015. He also was the old DNC chairman b4 DWS took over. But its probably a coincidence right guise :^)

Hold on, you're defending Assange?? The same guy Republicans were attacking night and day over wikileaks a few years ago! Don't try to pretend that you guys always loved him. Same goes for Democrats. Each party uses his information, and once finished slandering, go right back to attacking him.

Also the first allegation and many other allegations have been debunked. There are emails where the accusers are connected to the Clinton Campaign. If you don't like, there are some people who say that "they got raped by Trump a long time ago" were praising Trump in their private emails. I wouldn't praise my rapist now would I?

Also its pretty funny that all of these people jumped in and started to accuse Trump when there's 1 month left for the election.
"Hey I got groped 20 years ago! But I'll wait till the time is somehow right"
Also check wikileaks and you will see that this attack was orchestrated 3-4 months ago by the media and Clinton Campaign. I can just dump all the links if you people are too lazy to do your own research.

Trump is grasping at straws making the same accusations back at Clinton. To start with Bill Clinton is not running. Granted, I'd much prefer it if I had Bill Clinton instead of his wife as President, but at the end of the day, he's not even attacking the right person. I'm not going to debate that the Clintons organized this attack, but what I will say is that isn't Fox News considered to be, following what they say about themselves, a mainstream media source? Granted, they have't exactly supported Trump completely, but neither have other sites for Hillary.

[quote=Screwball][quote=HedoKingoglu]
I think the fact that there's so much open corruption against him should tell you who to vote.[/quote]
Because the republican party and millionaires are not known for corruption. No sir. Trump is a buffoon and gets called out as such in media. He is such a buffoon that not even the US elites want him because him coming to power would be a textbook case of accelerationism. This doesn't make Hillery better. I am of the personal opinion that they both deserve to be shot. But to say that Trump is getting more negative press for no reason is lunacy.[/quote]

So you think that Trump's sex allegations deserve 200 minutes of press while wikileaks only deserves 12 minutes (which most are from Fox News) and that it is completely fine? Oh wait, according to CNN; it is actually ILLEGAL to look at wikileaks emails and only the press can show the info to the public. Wow I suppose 1984 really was an instruction manual after all :^)

Last I checked, the Patriot Act was passed under a Republican President. While Clinton certainly supports it as well, it was neither her nor was it her husband's administration that passed that unconstitutional piece of shit into law. And while whoever is elected president will continue to renew it, I just want the record straight as to who established it. Note: Sanders actually voted against it (I wish he was the nominee).

Also do you unironically believe in the following:

That Republican Party elitists support Trump
That he was supposed to get support from the elites in the first place like Hillary?
That calling Trump a buffoon repeadetly like a little kindergarten studennt will make your point acceptable?

I have no idea where you're getting the idea that Trump invested 100 million into his campaign is coming from. The pretty consistent number from my research has been around 50 million. Also, don't give me the "self funded" argument. Trump has financed about 1/3 of his campaign, which is a hefty amount, but him calling my house asking for money doesn't incline me to give to him. Trump is worth, from what I've found, about 3.7 billion. That 50 million he spent on his campaign is chump change. Also, he's not even self made. He still won't release his tax returns for the reason of "I'm being audited" even though the IRS actually came out and said that they are not prohibiting Trump from releasing them. Also, his attacks on Buffet, an actual self-made man, were vile, and blew up in his face when Buffet released all his tax returns since 1944, showing that he never used the "carry forward" loophole. I also have a hard time justifying supporting a man who tries to avoid paying people, like contractors, who worked for him.

You can easily fling bullshit about "Trump Corruption" that are factually proven to be debunked and incorrect constantly. But if you really think that someone who invests 100 million dollars to his own presidential campaign and does not suck up to the lobbyist is going to be a "corrupt president". Then you really have no idea what the hell you are talking about.

I can't really blame you, I would hate Trump too if I only listened to the Mainstream Media and refused to watch his rallies or his events. The difference is, some people make their own research and use common sense while some people would rather throw a temper tantrum over things they do not like.

Speaking of foreign policy, I wonder how Trump is viewed in Europe? When I was there (for a year in France last year) I met very, very few people that supported him, and I was in a region (the north) that was voting extreme right. So just image wise, Trump is giving us a bad name already. Do you really think it'll get much better if he's president? And since the U.S. is a "failed nation" why don't you tell me how we're arrogant enough to think that we need to take a leadership position in the world. And I posit to you this: When was the last time America was great, in your opinion?

I've read the things you've written to others in response when it comes to foreign politics and you sound a little like Trump over the fact of the US' failed nation building and the stupid things that the US does in the foreign policy. I would advise you to watch the Commander in Chief forum and the South Carolina GOP primary debate so you can see what I am talking about.[/quote]
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Sorry Hedo, my points got added to the quote. They are located after your first, third, fourth, fifth, and right before your last paragraph.

Sorry Hedo, my points got added to the quote. They are located after your first, third, fourth, fifth, and right before your last paragraph.
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@ #572
Just because i think Trump is a buffoon doesn't mean i support Hillary or that i don't know what Hillary has been up to. To say i have no faith in the US government and electoral system would be the underestimation of the century. Also if you think i get my information from the mainstream media then you are dead wrong.

As i already stated the elites of both parties don't support him. Just because the elites don't support him doesn't suddenly mean you should support him. Unless your goal is accelerationism then by all means let him burn it to the ground. I couldn't care less.

Also

When was the last time America was great, in your opinion?

Never

You seem to think i am some sort of liberal.

@ #572
Just because i think Trump is a buffoon doesn't mean i support Hillary or that i don't know what Hillary has been up to. To say i have no faith in the US government and electoral system would be the underestimation of the century. Also if you think i get my information from the mainstream media then you are dead wrong.

As i already stated the elites of both parties don't support him. Just because the elites don't support him doesn't suddenly mean you should support him. Unless your goal is accelerationism then by all means let him burn it to the ground. I couldn't care less.

Also
[quote]When was the last time America was great, in your opinion?[/quote]
Never

You seem to think i am some sort of liberal.
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Screwball@ #572
Just because i think Trump is a buffoon doesn't mean i support Hillary or that i don't know what Hillary has been up to. To say i have no faith in the US government and electoral system would be the underestimation of the century. Also if you think i get my information from the mainstream media then you are dead wrong.

As i already stated the elites of both parties don't support him. Just because the elites don't support him doesn't suddenly mean you should support him. Unless your goal is accelerationism then by all means let him burn it to the ground. I couldn't care less.

AlsoWhen was the last time America was great, in your opinion?Never

You seem to think i am some sort of liberal.

The question was directed toward Hedo lol

[quote=Screwball]@ #572
Just because i think Trump is a buffoon doesn't mean i support Hillary or that i don't know what Hillary has been up to. To say i have no faith in the US government and electoral system would be the underestimation of the century. Also if you think i get my information from the mainstream media then you are dead wrong.

As i already stated the elites of both parties don't support him. Just because the elites don't support him doesn't suddenly mean you should support him. Unless your goal is accelerationism then by all means let him burn it to the ground. I couldn't care less.

Also
[quote]When was the last time America was great, in your opinion?[/quote]
Never

You seem to think i am some sort of liberal.[/quote]

The question was directed toward Hedo lol
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For all the reading types out there, I recommend Alexis de Tocqueville's Democracy in America Vol.1. You'll find that people have been saying America has lost its greatness since it began. The entire idea of greatness is delusional because of its subjectiveness. To be fair, the quality of life for most has improved over the last 200 years. If you can afford internet, your household is considered pretty well off. So for us, America is pretty great! For others, I think we can do better to spread some wealth around from the 1% that has stockpiles of cash their grandchildren won't even be able to spend in their lifetimes.

Conversations like these have existed for the better part of a thousand years or more, so a more constructive question would be how to actually do something about fanatical and political inequality.

For all the reading types out there, I recommend Alexis de Tocqueville's Democracy in America Vol.1. You'll find that people have been saying America has lost its greatness since it began. The entire idea of greatness is delusional because of its subjectiveness. To be fair, the quality of life for most has improved over the last 200 years. If you can afford internet, your household is considered pretty well off. So for us, America is pretty great! For others, I think we can do better to spread some wealth around from the 1% that has stockpiles of cash their grandchildren won't even be able to spend in their lifetimes.

Conversations like these have existed for the better part of a thousand years or more, so a more constructive question would be how to actually do something about fanatical and political inequality.
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eee If nothing else theyre stupider than me (the vast majority of ppl are tbf).

http://pix.iemoji.com/images/emoji/apple/ios-9/256/thinking-face.png

[quote=eee] If nothing else theyre stupider than me (the vast majority of ppl are tbf). [/quote]

http://pix.iemoji.com/images/emoji/apple/ios-9/256/thinking-face.png
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eee@deetr

I really appreciate you.

[quote=eee]@deetr[/quote]

I really appreciate you.
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eeeIf nothing else theyre stupider than me (the vast majority of ppl are tbf).

lmfao

[quote=eee]If nothing else theyre stupider than me (the vast majority of ppl are tbf).[/quote]

lmfao
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eeeTrump voters are on average stupider. Thats an objective fact considering his primary base is uneducated white males.eeewhite males

but what does race have to do with it lol this is like the 3rd time in this thread you've shittalked white people.. do you cry everytime you look in a mirror or Are You "TransRacial" Like Shaun King And Rachel Dolezal.... UHURU MY NIGGA ELLIOT X!!! #BLM

eeeAll these children cant handle an actual genius smh

buddy if you were a true "genius" you wouldnt have even mentioned an "objective fact" being able to exist.. i thought u would have been smart enough to realize nothing matters 666 666 nietzsche 666 nothing is objective there is no god 666... LOL smhing my head at these wannabe "intellects" when my brain turns out to be bigger than you'res.....

[quote=eee]Trump voters are on average stupider. Thats an objective fact considering his primary base is uneducated white males.[/quote]
[quote=eee]white males[/quote]
but what does race have to do with it lol this is like the 3rd time in this thread you've shittalked white people.. do you cry everytime you look in a mirror or Are You "TransRacial" Like Shaun King And Rachel Dolezal.... UHURU MY NIGGA ELLIOT X!!! #BLM
[quote=eee]All these children cant handle an actual genius smh[/quote]
buddy if you were a true "genius" you wouldnt have even mentioned an "objective fact" being able to exist.. i thought u would have been smart enough to realize nothing matters 666 666 nietzsche 666 nothing is objective there is no god 666... LOL smhing my head at these wannabe "intellects" when my brain turns out to be bigger than you'res.....
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top 3 countries to nuke you say?

how about this thread instead?

top 3 countries to nuke you say?

how about this thread instead?
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eee@deetr

idk dude your whole post is just a bunch of factually untrue stuff that the media repeats, there's not really much I can say tbh. There are tens/hundreds(?) of testimonies from different women over a very long time period accusing Bill Clinton of being a rapist but these Trump allegations just appear a month before the election after him being in the public eye for so long? (edit: also raping a 13 yr old is way more moral than what clinton has done imo but that's personal opinion) Seems unlikely to me (it's also entirely possible only a few of the people are telling the truth, but that sort of makes the fact that the Clinton campaign planted rape allegations even worse imo).
Here is my evidence, if you're just going to keep saying the leaks aren't important when everybody else knows they are you're free to do that. Also if you think using power/money to get women is sexual assault you're entitled to your opinion but I (along with most men I know) would disagree.

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/12681
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/248
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/2783
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/2301
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/2535
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5267
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/6453
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5688
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5469
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5512
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5423
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/927
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3609
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/9272
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/9193
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/11915
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/4664
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/12811
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5399
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/8095
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/6230
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/12803
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7102
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/12450
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/6107
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/5270
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7793
https://wikileaks.org/hillary-war/
https://vault.fbi.gov/hillary-r.-clinton
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8ewCgdpnlc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LYRUOd_QoM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IuJGHuIkzY
http://www.infowars.com/exclusive-hillary-killed-libya-peace-deal-over-personal-vendetta-claims-whistleblower/
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/13/fbi-doj-roiled-by-comey-lynch-decision-to-let-clinton-slide-by-on-emails-says-insider.html (ik fox news xD but there seem to be quite a few ppl reporting on this? idk whether to believe this one tbh but it would make sense esp considering how comey acts in the testimony I linked above)

I don't really care enough to list any more sources but it is quite easy to find whatever you want to know about with wikileaks search. There are incriminating emails on almost every topic (how nice of podesta!).

Additionally, if you don't like how democracy works you're free to argue it but the fact that idiots are allowed to vote has nothing to do with this particular election or the candidates (also consider the fact that you are preaching your intelligence on a tf2 forum probably means you wouldn't be allowed to vote in this system Xd). Idiots have been choosing who leads forever, how else do you think Obama and Bush both had 2 terms xD

About the Canada thing I agree, I wish I was somewhere on another continent because we are one of the only countries to have an even worse leader than whoever you're about to elect xD. I guess at least we have cheap dope.

[quote=eee]@deetr[/quote]

idk dude your whole post is just a bunch of factually untrue stuff that the media repeats, there's not really much I can say tbh. There are tens/hundreds(?) of testimonies from different women over a very long time period accusing Bill Clinton of being a rapist but these Trump allegations just appear a month before the election after him being in the public eye for so long? (edit: also raping a 13 yr old is way more moral than what clinton has done imo but that's personal opinion) Seems unlikely to me (it's also entirely possible only a few of the people are telling the truth, but that sort of makes the fact that the Clinton campaign planted rape allegations even worse imo).
Here is my evidence, if you're just going to keep saying the leaks aren't important when everybody else knows they are you're free to do that. Also if you think using power/money to get women is sexual assault you're entitled to your opinion but I (along with most men I know) would disagree.

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/12681
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/248
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/2783
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/2301
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/2535
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5267
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/6453
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5688
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5469
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5512
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5423
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/927
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3609
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/9272
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/9193
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/11915
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/4664
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/12811
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5399
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/8095
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/6230
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/12803
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7102
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/12450
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/6107
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/5270
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7793
https://wikileaks.org/hillary-war/
https://vault.fbi.gov/hillary-r.-clinton
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8ewCgdpnlc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LYRUOd_QoM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IuJGHuIkzY
http://www.infowars.com/exclusive-hillary-killed-libya-peace-deal-over-personal-vendetta-claims-whistleblower/
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/13/fbi-doj-roiled-by-comey-lynch-decision-to-let-clinton-slide-by-on-emails-says-insider.html (ik fox news xD but there seem to be quite a few ppl reporting on this? idk whether to believe this one tbh but it would make sense esp considering how comey acts in the testimony I linked above)

I don't really care enough to list any more sources but it is quite easy to find whatever you want to know about with wikileaks search. There are incriminating emails on almost every topic (how nice of podesta!).

Additionally, if you don't like how democracy works you're free to argue it but the fact that idiots are allowed to vote has nothing to do with this particular election or the candidates (also consider the fact that you are preaching your intelligence on a tf2 forum probably means you wouldn't be allowed to vote in this system Xd). Idiots have been choosing who leads forever, how else do you think Obama and Bush both had 2 terms xD

About the Canada thing I agree, I wish I was somewhere on another continent because we are one of the only countries to have an even worse leader than whoever you're about to elect xD. I guess at least we have cheap dope.
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#587
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deetrxD
[quote=deetr]xD[/quote]
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#588
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IuJGHuIkzY&feature=youtu.be

Did you guys see this? Hidden camera footage of Clinton/DNC operatives that admit to staging many of the violent events and protests at Trump rallies including blocking off the highway in Arizona and all the violence in Chicago that caused Trump to have to cancel his rally. This is as filthy as you can get in politics and it must stop!

This is not surprising to me as I knew that there were people behind these violent acts and many of them were staged. But what is surprising is the first hand information directly from the sources via hidden cameras that organize these events!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IuJGHuIkzY&feature=youtu.be

Did you guys see this? Hidden camera footage of Clinton/DNC operatives that admit to staging many of the violent events and protests at Trump rallies including blocking off the highway in Arizona and all the violence in Chicago that caused Trump to have to cancel his rally. This is as filthy as you can get in politics and it must stop!

This is not surprising to me as I knew that there were people behind these violent acts and many of them were staged. But what is surprising is the first hand information directly from the sources via hidden cameras that organize these events!
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dollarlayerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IuJGHuIkzY&feature=youtu.be

Did you guys see this?

Honestly not that surprising. This is something that lots of people have suspected has been happening for a long time now.

It's nice to actually have some video proof of it. Can't wait for part 2.

[quote=dollarlayer]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IuJGHuIkzY&feature=youtu.be

Did you guys see this?[/quote]
Honestly not that surprising. This is something that lots of people have suspected has been happening for a long time now.

It's nice to actually have some video proof of it. Can't wait for part 2.
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#590
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Not_Matlockdollarlayerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IuJGHuIkzY&feature=youtu.be

Did you guys see this?
Honestly not that surprising. This is something that lots of people have suspected has been happening for a long time now.

It's nice to actually have some video proof of it. Can't wait for part 2.

Yep, I've heard all kinds of things about George Soros funding protesters but never any proof. The only real proof I've seen prior to this video is when a police officer in Texas said that the majority of the protesters outside a Trump rally were bused in from out of town by a 3rd party.

More and more will be revealed in the coming days between this, other sources and of course wikileaks. I just hope that people's eyes will open up to how corrupt the Clinton's and DNC is.

[quote=Not_Matlock][quote=dollarlayer]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IuJGHuIkzY&feature=youtu.be

Did you guys see this?[/quote]
Honestly not that surprising. This is something that lots of people have suspected has been happening for a long time now.

It's nice to actually have some video proof of it. Can't wait for part 2.[/quote]

Yep, I've heard all kinds of things about George Soros funding protesters but never any proof. The only real proof I've seen prior to this video is when a police officer in Texas said that the majority of the protesters outside a Trump rally were bused in from out of town by a 3rd party.

More and more will be revealed in the coming days between this, other sources and of course wikileaks. I just hope that people's eyes will open up to how corrupt the Clinton's and DNC is.
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let's see what tf;tv has been like lately

nevermind

let's see what tf;tv has been like lately


nevermind
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#592
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x

x
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#593
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x

x
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#594
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eeeI also am smarter than most people.

Never change Elliot.

[quote=eee]I also am smarter than most people.[/quote]

Never change Elliot.
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I mean you guys give him shit for saying that but its pretty likely he is

Just the fact that one gets accepted into a premedical program, however mediocre, still proves one is smarter than the average bear

I mean you guys give him shit for saying that but its pretty likely he is

Just the fact that one gets accepted into a premedical program, however mediocre, still proves one is smarter than the average bear
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jdmI mean you guys give him shit for saying that but its pretty likely he is

Just the fact that one gets accepted into a premedical program, however mediocre, still proves one is smarter than the average bear

Working with medical students for almost 20 years has shown me that being "booksmart" and being able to score high in tests means very little in the world after school is over. Many times a piece of framed paper on the wall that says you have a degree is still just a piece of paper.

[quote=jdm]I mean you guys give him shit for saying that but its pretty likely he is

Just the fact that one gets accepted into a premedical program, however mediocre, still proves one is smarter than the average bear[/quote]

Working with medical students for almost 20 years has shown me that being "booksmart" and being able to score high in tests means very little in the world after school is over. Many times a piece of framed paper on the wall that says you have a degree is still just a piece of paper.
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#597
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jdmI mean you guys give him shit for saying that but its pretty likely he is

Just the fact that one gets accepted into a premedical program, however mediocre, still proves one is smarter than the average bear

that doesn't make his posts any less retarded

[quote=jdm]I mean you guys give him shit for saying that but its pretty likely he is

Just the fact that one gets accepted into a premedical program, however mediocre, still proves one is smarter than the average bear[/quote]
that doesn't make his posts any less retarded
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picking at random

deetrhttps://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5267

wow hillary had a plan to fight against sanders in the campaign, how scandalous

deetrhttps://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/12811

Person saw news story and ignored it, oh my god

deetrhttps://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5399

A list of news articles and their contents, will the corruption never end!

deetrhttps://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5423

so basically since sanders supporters cried about super delegates shes giving a meaningless concession on that front to attempt to appease them, since apparently the massive platform concessions dont matter. this is politics, crybabies. They could have not reduced the super delegates at all and what would be the problem?

deetrhttps://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3609

Okay, a clinton suppoter, friend of clinton, whatever, sent this delegate a mean letter. Yea, its poor taste, and?

picking at random
[quote=deetr]
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5267
[/quote]

wow hillary had a plan to fight against sanders in the campaign, how scandalous
[quote=deetr]
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/12811
[/quote]

Person saw news story and ignored it, oh my god
[quote=deetr]
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5399
[/quote]
A list of news articles and their contents, will the corruption never end!
[quote=deetr]
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5423
[/quote]
so basically since sanders supporters cried about super delegates shes giving a meaningless concession on that front to attempt to appease them, since apparently the massive platform concessions dont matter. this is politics, crybabies. They could have not reduced the super delegates at all and what would be the problem?
[quote=deetr]
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3609
[/quote]
Okay, a clinton suppoter, friend of clinton, whatever, sent this delegate a mean letter. Yea, its poor taste, and?
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#599
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True

SpaceCadetWorking with medical students for almost 20 years has shown me that being "booksmart" and being able to score high in tests means very little in the world after school is over. Many times a piece of framed paper on the wall that says you have a degree is still just a piece of paper.

That may be true but come on I think being even in the top 30% most intelligent is a low bar

True

[quote=SpaceCadet]
Working with medical students for almost 20 years has shown me that being "booksmart" and being able to score high in tests means very little in the world after school is over. Many times a piece of framed paper on the wall that says you have a degree is still just a piece of paper.[/quote]

That may be true but come on I think being even in the top 30% most intelligent is a low bar
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You're all trying to have an argument with someone who says "I'm very smart!" over and over again and talks like a tumblrina lmfao

You're all trying to have an argument with someone who says "I'm very smart!" over and over again and talks like a tumblrina lmfao
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