so you're saying people who literally do not speak english while encountering a huge amount of racism (even today) and still manage to average just over twice the income of another "oppressed" minority have privilege? if i import a penguin and he's an amazing doctor then is he privileged due to his penguinness? you seriously can't be saying this.

do you also want to address how it's more socially acceptable to call someone a chink vs calling a black person the n word? i talked to school administration in a liberally inclined high school about african american students calling me chink and i was told that there was nothing they could do, but a white friend of mine was suspended for two weeks for calling an african american student a "dumb n word." is this my asian privilege?

you spent 2500 hours in a video game to play at a steel highlander level

but i'm the unintelligent one ok!

How is "higher educated people are often just as ignorant of politics, if not more than uneducated people"

Not saying higher education means youre less informed?

Your argument is pretty flawed anyway, since the majority of people who understand this shit but stand little to gain like journalists or ex-presidents consider trump to be a bad idea. It would seem the more you know avout government the less trump appeals to you

Dont more asians live in areas where the average income is higher? I dont see many here in AL whwre the average income is dick and i feel like that might hurt yr argument:(

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I'm going to a prep school in Hawaii and barely have time to play, so I'm subbing for a friend's team. But even if I had 5,000 hours and played iron highlander. I would still be better than you, because you're a scumbag hacker.

so eee how do you feel about the millions of dollars hillary clinton receives from middle eastern donors?

how do you feel about hillary scamming the american people through the clinton foundation and only forwarding a measly 6% to the haitian people?

how do you feel about bill paying $20k to be part of an all-white golf club?

how do you feel about juanita broaddrick's allegations? or are the allegations against trump the only valid ones?

wanna guess how many hl matches i cheated in or do they not teach u how to count to 0 in community college "prep school"

mom i can't say the n word!!!!!!! how can people say that racism against black people still exists!!! democrats are the REAL racists!!!!

wait so are you legitimately telling me that calling me a chink is ok? nice job entirely missing my point retard

wanna guess how many fucks I give about how many hl matches you cheated in? All that matters is you got vac banned you fucking idiot lol.

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I dont think taking money from people who happen to live in SA means shes a saudi puppet

The 6% youre referring to is a manufactured issue. The 6% means they forwarded 6% to other charities. Something like 86% of the foundation goes onto help people

Idc about who bill wants to hang out with

Bill's accusers were investigated and he was acquitted, trump hasnt had that happen yet

Nice way to deflect the argument tho

yes but if you work unskilled labor you still can't afford to live in places with higher average income

i mean if u want to ignore affirmative action that's ok with me

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wrong!

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affirmative action's goal is to put minorities into better colleges.

but why? put people in the college that's their level

besides there's not really that much of a difference between the "good" schools and the "great" schools, graduates from both seem to do about equally well

i don't think that being called a chink is okay.

idk tho the one time i've been insulted in school so far for being asian is by some random fat white girl whom i know won't amount to anything anyways. ymmv

but to deny the existence of privilege just because of some of your experiences in school is dumb

I didnt mean to respond to you i just wanted to call fade dumb. AA is a weird thing that i agree with more as a goal than in practice but idk enough to actually meaningfully discuss sey

i'm pretty sure the argument for affirmative action is to benefit racial groups that are inherently "disadvantaged" due to their economic status preventing them from getting as good of an education as they possible could have, which is all nice and dandy in theory and I do agree that those who are disadvantaged should have some form of compensation.

In reality though, (at least from what i've seen) AA just promotes racial animosity and the feeling that you're not actually competing with other applicants but you just need to be better than "the next asian" (replace your own race here). Obviously my viewpoint is biased as fuck and is completely anecdotal, I'd just like to get my thoughts out there.

not to mention that if you were of a race that is seen as traditionally benefiting from affirmative action and you were a qualified applicant, some people will completely undermine your accomplishment because of your race. I personally knew a Mexican-American individual who was perhaps one of the most intelligent people I've ever met, and yet a lot of people belittle her accomplishments by saying things like "oh she only got in/got that job because she's ______" which is probably unbelievably shitty for her.

lower middle class don't play video games all day

most people here are upper middle class

most of the people in my mumble are lower middle or middle. I think fen is the only person that I talk to in this community who is actually upper middle class and he's a first gen immigrants so i dont think he really counts. Might just be my bubble but the majority of the people I've heard talk about their jobs are either working for hourly wages or in college on student loans. The definition of lower middle class is a lot higher up than you probably think tbh.

speaking as a mouth piece for the humanities professor who I sit next to for a couple hours a week: affirmative action is an attempt to counteract the fact that an equally qualified black applicant would naturally be overlooked for a white applicant with the same resume.

from that perspective I'd say it isn't a bad goal idk

@springrolls third paragraph

its really shitty to have your achievements reduced, but I think that anyone who supports AA full stop would just counter with "well its better to get shit on than never get anywhere to begin with". You can say intelligent people will shine through regardless but that's pretty optimistic imo

A bunch of high school and college students living with their upper middle class parents and working a bad job aren't lower middle class, they are upper middle class like their parents

There is a lot more to social class than the fact that you have to flip burgers part time

social groups, connections, schools you went to, conditions growing up etc

here's another hint, if you're buying a 1500$ computer every few years you're not lower middle class

back to: most of the people in my tf2 circle aren't upper middle class

upper middle class p much by definition means your household income is high enough that you wouldn't need to work part time in school. Most people don't have parents breaking 6 figure incomes in this community.

you're also being kind of dumb by saying middle and lower middle class people can't play video games a lot. The game is free, you realize that right? Video games are a huge industry that EVERYONE takes part in.

Only the top 5% or so of upper middle class in north america make 6 figures, you are making things up and pretending you know what you're talking about

upper middle class is like top 15% of people which is a household income of $100,000

u can actually just google this

I want this election to be over so that all my canadian friends here at school (I'm from the US and go to university in canada) stop making fun of me for donald trump

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Personal income (age 25+)[19]
Lower threshold (annual gross income) $37,500 $47,500 $52,500 $62,500 $75,000 $100,000
Exact Percentage of individuals 33.55% 24.03% 19.74% 14.47% 10.29% 5.63%
SOURCE: US Census Bureau, 2006[18][19]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_middle_class_in_the_United_States

huh elliot is wrong as usual, what a surprise