half of it is teams like se7en, the other half is balance changes by valve that have made their playstyle more viable

hi im valve *makes roamer bombs worse every update*

I agree with mustard, but it'd be nice if their playstyle was more enjoyable to watch. I understand there's prize money on the line, but who's gonna watch a shitty stalemate and say "yea I want to try comp tf2, this looks fun"

replace all scouts with soldiers

• fewer denied bombs
  
• more airshots
  
• increased spam of chokes is counteracted by the ability to jump through them and make space for your medic

flawless solution

oooh come ooon!
Are you telling me that that stalemate was Se7en fault?
EVL:

• had mid
  
• repeatedly did the SAME THING all over again for minutes (sacrifying garbuglio)
  
• had an offclass spy that literally did nothing and was afk
  
• were too afraid of trying something new

Please let's give some merits when a team deserve them, and not always think "yeah its' reason/nerdrage/nameless/se7en fault, witout them this game would be much betteeere!\11!1"

replace med and demo with soldiers too
no traps to slow down pushes
no more waiting for ubers
MORE airshots

dude did u watch any of their games

not sayin evl werent playing like pussies too but holy shit lol

nah med is fine but only if the quickfix is allowed :]

shut up

6s has always been fucking stalematey, thats just how the fucking game goes its always been like that jesus fuck i swear you people are fucking dumb

Tell me this thread wasn't about the badlands game. Tell me how many times you've seen breaking a stalemate by the team defending second.
Oh and remember the gullywash comback in 8 mintutes or so? That wasn't properly stalemate :\

Oh and remember this team is officially playing the first time together! And the only players coming from i58 "residentSleeper" Crowns are Raymon, Starkie and Drackk. The others were the same players who contested to Crowns how they were stalematey

unban quick-fix

I don't know why ya'll treat slin like a criminal, he's an invite medic full of experience and he has many years in the community, he truly knows what the community wants.
He's trying to make TF2 a fun to watch eSport and kill the stale meta that's killing TF2.
I for one think that we should go back to playing 7v7 like our lord and saviour Sigafoo said we should.
That'll attract a lot more people to the community.

if only we kept the quick fix unbanned this wouldnt have happened.

3 rounds in 8 minutes? Pls tell me more of how se7en are stalematey :)))

i think this talks more about how froyo is shit at sunshine than 7 being an agro team

Revert med with scout speed, give soldier a base speed buff, gunboats limit 1. BLAMO

give demo the air strike give scout gunboats BLAMO

shut up bro

Bring back esea lan

revert the sticky nerf Kappa

same but unironically

This and banning retarded unlocks would make the game perfect again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqLHsrDFAk0

it was always like this

ban arrows and now you can push off of damage more often :^)

i mean 7 lost the gf because of their playstyle and they took too long to push
nursey dropped 2 times in granary and 7's pushes were awful even tho they had close to full uber ad

they spent 5 minutes killing freestate on mid

I think you mean chasing Freestate

sorry for ruining the game

I honestly have no problem with the way 7 plays the game. At the end of the day, it is a tournament and the goal is to win so whatever strategy gets that job done is fine by me. They lost this one but it could have gone differently.

From a purely spectator point of view, it can seem really boring and at times lacking excitement to watch a stalemate or slow progression from CP to CP so I can understand and feel the frustration.

Just speaking for myself, when I am watching these types of matches, I feel engrossed as a player and that makes me appreciate these situations so much more. I want to see the tiny mistake a player makes that initiates the other team to capitalize and press such a small advantage. I feel it helps me learn and make my own game better as well as my team. Basically, I appreciate the small things and don't always need the super fast paced, in your face triple airshot style we all love.