https://m.costco.com/Acer-XF240H-24"-Full-HD-Monitor-with-AMD-FreeSync.product.100316061.html

There's this one I found on the front of r/buildapcsales
People are talking about the colours seeming washed out but I'm sure there's a fix for it in the settings.
Here's the thread https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/5urt1v/monitor_acer_xf240h_24_144hz_1ms_response_1080p/

Edit: found the same monitor on Amazon https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01DHTWZRQ/ref=pd_aw_sbs_147_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=C16E5GK26S0TZP5CJB13&dpPl=1&dpID=A1TYDpxM-rL

230 is a bit on the lower side, I've heard a lot of good things from the Asus vg248qe, takes a bit of tinkering with the colors buts it's fine

What features are you looking for? Freesync, DisplayPort, G-Sync? The BenQ XL2411Z is my recommendation, though I suppose it's a little old now. It doesn't have any features, but it's fast and it works. It's often compared to the VG248QE, but unlike the Asus, the BenQ doesn't use PWM. The BenQ ebay store is worth a look for refurbished models. It can save you money on tax and shipping. The LG 24GM77-B is supposed to have the best colors of the budget options, but I have never used one myself.

Don't get the Asus VG248QE.
BenQ XL2411 is outside of the budget.

Don't get the Acer GN246HL.

The AOC G2460FQ is the G2460PF's predecessor without FreeSync. No reason to get it, especially when it's more expensive like now.

So the G2460PF and XF240H are your only options.
I haven't found a comprehensive review or an ICC profile for the XF240H so I'm not sure if it's better or worse.

I guess the G2460PF is the safer bet for at least ok-ish colours since you can get an ICC profile.
https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/aoc-g2460pf/

Curious, why do you say not to get the GN246HL? Because you can currently get it for $168 at jet.com after using code TRIPLE15.

https://jet.com/product/Acer-GN246HL-BBID-24-inch-Wide-Screen-LED-Monitor/0d71c51df29b4d3da77fbea292536537

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/nixeus-24-144hz-freesync-led-gaming-monitor?referer=QP87NY

Massdrop has this one currently at $190, but I've heard some negative things about this monitor in the past. Has anyone had experience with this one? Is it one that's not worth buying at all?

The GN246HL got all the downsides of the VG248QE, except worse.

I mean sure, it's the perfect monitor for masochists, but I generally assume people buy 144Hz so their eyes DON'T bleed.

The Nixeus is ok.

My mistake. I didn't check current prices. When I bought it, I had to wait a little for a refurbished model to show up on BenQ's ebay, but it cost less than $210 including tax and shipping.

I got that Acer and my eyes don't bleed. I haven't tried any other 144 Hz though so idk.

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My experience with a nixeus that I bought through massdrop was not good. It came with a dead pixel and a strange issue where it would stutter if I didn't power cycle it about once a day.

My roommate and I both owned the asus vg248qe and other than the colors had 0 issues with them. Setsul knows more and may be able to explain why he is so against them.

Did you ever try to get another one to see if you simply had a defective product?

what's wrong with the vg?

The answer is colour issues and PWM.
Fine in 2012 when there were no other options.
Not fine in 2013 when even cheaper monitors did a better job.
Absolutely not ok in 2017.

I got the gn246hl but i would def go for something else if my budget/country allowed me back then.
Just seeing the brand AOC makes my eyes bleed, the experience i had with that monitor at i58 was horrendous
Take a word from setsul and you should be fine with whatever he recommends

AOC makes some very good monitors.
They also make some very bad monitors.

Especially with an ICC profile the G2460PF is ok in terms of colours. Overdrive is a bit too aggressive at lower refresh rates (remember, FreeSync).

It's good for a 200$ 144Hz FreeSync monitor, but it's still a 200$ 144Hz monitor. You get what you pay for.

ok no one is going to dispute that youre the authority when it comes to basically all tech but can you actually explain why this monitor is bad? i use it and clearly so do many other people including lots of pros so im genuinely interested in why i made a bad decision buying it. saying its shit doesnt really do much :/

There's the short explanations and the long versions.
Short versions:
Colour issues = monitor is supposed to display colours. This monitor does not display the colours it should display.

PWM = One way of adjusting the brightness. PWM is a crutch for when you want to cheap out. No good monitor should use it.

The long versions are very long, depending on how much you know about how RGB and colour spaces work.

Okay so everyone pretty much acknowledges the colors are bad (personally they don't bother me at all but that doesn't change the fact that it is objectively bad)

But what is the practical issue with pwm? I did some research that would seem to indicate that it can cause eye strain. Personally I never had this issue but I always played in a pretty well lit room. So is it the eye strain? Just because I didn't notice doesn't make it not a factor. Is it the source of the bad colors? Does it not hold up well over time?

i got mine refurbished so maybe the colours were already adjusted because they seem nice to me

i tried quickly looking up what pwm was and didnt really get it but if its too technical then i can accept that, thanks for clarifying a bit :)

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1. It means the manufacturer cheaped out.
2. If it's low frequency PWM (e.g. 180 Hz, early version VG248QE or XL2411T) then headaches. If it's high frequency then because some people thought it would be really smart to use multiples of the monitors refresh rate (180, 240, 300, 360, 600, 720 are common) you can get really weird interference patterns with mains powered lights (which most lights are) which at best make you dizzy and at worst make you vomit. The VG248QE actually always uses 6 times the refresh rate, so you don't get the problem at 144Hz, but you do at 60 or 120 Hz (e.g. for Lightboost).
Obviously depends on the mains frequency but it's just not acceptable when cheaper monitors don't have that problem.

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They were not. You just get used to it and have no comparision.
Like when you are in a room with way too yellow or way too blue light and then go somewhere else all colours will look horribly off. Same thing. Except on top of colour balance being bad there's some more additonal problems.

wow jeez i guess ill try to get a different one when i eventually replace this one
i have it next to another monitor and i think it actually looks better, but maybe the second monitor has even worse colours lol, it is a really cheap one

fortunately i leave mine on 144Hz so i guess i wont see the pwm problem

good stuff to know though thanks

Sorry for a bit of a derail, but setsul which of the 240Hz monitors do you think is the "best" (yeah I get they're all the same 24.5in TN panel but figured you'd know some specifics)

There's not a whole lot of reviews yet.
BenQ is weird, no FreeSync, no G-Sync, no Lightboost. Pretty poor at that price.
No idea about the Acer.

Generally all of them have worse colours than 120/144/165/180Hz monitors.
Highest overshoots = worst colours, but lowest response time on the AOC. Your only option with FreeSync though.
Asus a bit less overshoots, a bit better colours, but higher response time. G-Sync.

Feel free to derail. I already got the one Setsul recommended.

really cause I thought the 240Hz TNs had basically the same color accuracy as the 144Hz TN panels, with marginally less overshoot (at least in the case of the PG258Q), I was also particularly surprised by how poor the PG258Q did on the GtG test with the 200 end point, this is something that literally none of the "high-end" ASUS TN panels have and also not something that AOC struggled with. Might have something to do with the slightly less overshoot it has (at least when compared to the PG278Q and MG248Q)

Personally I've been stuck on if I wanted to get the ASUS PG258Q specifically because of the GSync and 240Hz feature, or just get the AOC and save a bit of money. Might wait and see how well received the Acer one is.

The PG258Q uses the better version of that panel. On the AOC AGON AG251FZ and BenQ XL2540 it's far worse. No idea about the Acer.

I'd wait until AUO releases 27" 240Hz panels. They are planning to and these 24.5" panels are just bullshit.
G2G higher than the refresh time unless you use ridiculous amounts of overdrive just doesn't make any sense.

I mean do you really think the came up with 24.5" specifically for 240Hz monitors? These are cut up 6 bit + FRC garbage tier 49" 4K TN panels that just happen to be about as fast as 144 Hz panels. They have no business being sold as 240 Hz.

Can you link me an article saying they would do that, I vaguely remember them talking about but I can't find it again. ]

Also consider the "Acer Predator XB251HQT" hasn't been sold yet I'd guess they have the same revision of Panel as ASUS PG258Q.

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Seems like the panels already exist M270HTN02.0 and M270HTN02.3 not sure what models will include these or when though.

Knowing what you're calling to call a product and actually getting it to work are two very different things though.