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Logitech G403
- Uses PMW3366 sensor which is considered to be the best sensor available on market at the moment.
- Good ergonimics, mouse buttons separated from the body.
- Considering the size, it's really light. 88g is just insanely good compared to something like 105g (deathadder chroma) or 103g (mionix naos).
- Cheap.
Also if you're sitting on a money bag you can try Logitech G Pro. Same sensor, ambidextrous shape (takes a while to get used to), smaller than G403, weighs just 83g and it's even cheaper.
[b]Logitech G403[/b]
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[*] Uses PMW3366 sensor which is considered to be the best sensor available on market at the moment.
[*] Good ergonimics, mouse buttons separated from the body.
[*] Considering the size, it's really light. 88g is just insanely good compared to something like 105g (deathadder chroma) or 103g (mionix naos).
[*] Cheap.
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Also if you're sitting on a money bag you can try Logitech G Pro. Same sensor, ambidextrous shape (takes a while to get used to), smaller than G403, weighs just 83g and it's even cheaper.
[list]
[*] Uses PMW3366 sensor which is considered to be the best sensor available on market at the moment.
[*] Good ergonimics, mouse buttons separated from the body.
[*] Considering the size, it's really light. 88g is just insanely good compared to something like 105g (deathadder chroma) or 103g (mionix naos).
[*] Cheap.
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Also if you're sitting on a money bag you can try Logitech G Pro. Same sensor, ambidextrous shape (takes a while to get used to), smaller than G403, weighs just 83g and it's even cheaper.
+1 for the g403 I have the wireless version and it's awesome hardly any noticeable input lag and I don't have to fiddle with the cord getting stuck and shit.
At the end of the day it all comes down to preference in terms of which shapes fit your hand better and which weights you prefer etc. I liked my zowie za11 and would buy more of their products were the scroll wheels not shit.
+1 for the g403 I have the wireless version and it's awesome hardly any noticeable input lag and I don't have to fiddle with the cord getting stuck and shit.
At the end of the day it all comes down to preference in terms of which shapes fit your hand better and which weights you prefer etc. I liked my zowie za11 and would buy more of their products were the scroll wheels not shit.
At the end of the day it all comes down to preference in terms of which shapes fit your hand better and which weights you prefer etc. I liked my zowie za11 and would buy more of their products were the scroll wheels not shit.
I don't see the ninox aurora on there is it a bad mouse
I don't see the ninox aurora on there is it a bad mouse
My Zowie EC2-A works flawlessly. I have a small hand so that's why I have the smaller version. Stuff like that is all preference.
My Zowie EC2-A works flawlessly. I have a small hand so that's why I have the smaller version. Stuff like that is all preference.
Pick the best ones (G403, both EC and FK Zowie, Dethadder, Mionix Castor) on Amazon.Than try them for a couple of days. Return all except the winner. For me it was G403 (loved the EC-2 too)
Pick the best ones (G403, both EC and FK Zowie, Dethadder, Mionix Castor) on Amazon.Than try them for a couple of days. Return all except the winner. For me it was G403 (loved the EC-2 too)
Anything with a 3360/3361/3366 will be "the best" in terms of sensor (their only difference is how they deal with DPI, the 3360 starts to smooth after 2000 DPI while the 3366 doesn't ever, and the 3361 can finetune your DPI more but since 400-3000 DPI is recommended I'm guessing it smooths after that too. Basically treat them as the same because you shouldn't really be using crazy high DPI anyway).
Though sensor isn't everything, and shape matters more to most people as long as the sensor's good enough. And even though brands like Zowie are known for having very good shapes (and is why they're popular despite not having the best internal components), what's the best mouse shape for you is entirely personal. Similar deal with things like weight too.
If you're looking for recommendations, it's a lot better to fill people in on what you want out of a mouse. Grip type + hand size at the very least, because someone who grips differently and who has a different hand size will have completely different and often opposite preferences.
KhakiI don't see the ninox aurora on there is it a bad mouse
It fucks up when you try to press M1 and M2 at the same time, it adds over 50ms lag to the input which will fuck up timings bad. Also have heard that the sensor implementation makes the malfunction speed lower than it should be. On top of a bunch of QC issues and the specs just being a few years behind. If you're comfortable using it, it's probably fine, but it's not really recommendable now.
Like the scream one, it sorta died on arrival due to having too many issues, even though it could've been one of the best available if it weren't for bad implementations and bad QC.
Anything with a 3360/3361/3366 will be "the best" in terms of sensor (their only difference is how they deal with DPI, the 3360 starts to smooth after 2000 DPI while the 3366 doesn't ever, and the 3361 can finetune your DPI more but since 400-3000 DPI is recommended I'm guessing it smooths after that too. Basically treat them as the same because you shouldn't really be using crazy high DPI anyway).
Though sensor isn't everything, and shape matters more to most people as long as the sensor's good enough. And even though brands like Zowie are known for having very good shapes (and is why they're popular despite not having the best internal components), what's the best mouse shape for you is entirely personal. Similar deal with things like weight too.
If you're looking for recommendations, it's a lot better to fill people in on what you want out of a mouse. Grip type + hand size at the very least, because someone who grips differently and who has a different hand size will have completely different and often opposite preferences.
[quote=Khaki]I don't see the ninox aurora on there is it a bad mouse[/quote]
It fucks up when you try to press M1 and M2 at the same time, it adds over 50ms lag to the input which will fuck up timings bad. Also have heard that the sensor implementation makes the malfunction speed lower than it should be. On top of a bunch of QC issues and the specs just being a few years behind. If you're comfortable using it, it's probably fine, but it's not really recommendable now.
Like the scream one, it sorta died on arrival due to having too many issues, even though it could've been one of the best available if it weren't for bad implementations and bad QC.
Though sensor isn't everything, and shape matters more to most people as long as the sensor's good enough. And even though brands like Zowie are known for having very good shapes (and is why they're popular despite not having the best internal components), what's the best mouse shape for you is entirely personal. Similar deal with things like weight too.
If you're looking for recommendations, it's a lot better to fill people in on what you want out of a mouse. Grip type + hand size at the very least, because someone who grips differently and who has a different hand size will have completely different and often opposite preferences.
[quote=Khaki]I don't see the ninox aurora on there is it a bad mouse[/quote]
It fucks up when you try to press M1 and M2 at the same time, it adds over 50ms lag to the input which will fuck up timings bad. Also have heard that the sensor implementation makes the malfunction speed lower than it should be. On top of a bunch of QC issues and the specs just being a few years behind. If you're comfortable using it, it's probably fine, but it's not really recommendable now.
Like the scream one, it sorta died on arrival due to having too many issues, even though it could've been one of the best available if it weren't for bad implementations and bad QC.
the one with a "flawless" sensor that you like the shape and weight of best
the one with a "flawless" sensor that you like the shape and weight of best
Logitech G403 and G Pro and Zowie FK and EC.
Pick one of those and you're golden.
Logitech G403 and G Pro and Zowie FK and EC.
Pick one of those and you're golden.
Pick one of those and you're golden.
INSLogitech G403
- Uses PMW3366 sensor which is considered to be the best sensor available on market at the moment.
- Good ergonimics, mouse buttons separated from the body.
- Considering the size, it's really light. 88g is just insanely good compared to something like 105g (deathadder chroma) or 103g (mionix naos).
- Cheap.
Also if you're sitting on a money bag you can try Logitech G Pro. Same sensor, ambidextrous shape (takes a while to get used to), smaller than G403, weighs just 83g and it's even cheaper.
On amazon there's a difference of 3€ between the 403 and G Pro right now so how is the 403 cheap and G Pro requires sitting on a money bag?
[quote=INS][b]Logitech G403[/b]
[list]
[*] Uses PMW3366 sensor which is considered to be the best sensor available on market at the moment.
[*] Good ergonimics, mouse buttons separated from the body.
[*] Considering the size, it's really light. 88g is just insanely good compared to something like 105g (deathadder chroma) or 103g (mionix naos).
[*] Cheap.
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Also if you're sitting on a money bag you can try Logitech G Pro. Same sensor, ambidextrous shape (takes a while to get used to), smaller than G403, weighs just 83g and it's even cheaper.[/quote]
On amazon there's a difference of 3€ between the 403 and G Pro right now so how is the 403 cheap and G Pro requires sitting on a money bag?
[list]
[*] Uses PMW3366 sensor which is considered to be the best sensor available on market at the moment.
[*] Good ergonimics, mouse buttons separated from the body.
[*] Considering the size, it's really light. 88g is just insanely good compared to something like 105g (deathadder chroma) or 103g (mionix naos).
[*] Cheap.
[/list]
Also if you're sitting on a money bag you can try Logitech G Pro. Same sensor, ambidextrous shape (takes a while to get used to), smaller than G403, weighs just 83g and it's even cheaper.[/quote]
On amazon there's a difference of 3€ between the 403 and G Pro right now so how is the 403 cheap and G Pro requires sitting on a money bag?
imo g403 is the best mouse out right now but I personally don't like the shape of it so I'm on the original fk1
imo g403 is the best mouse out right now but I personally don't like the shape of it so I'm on the original fk1
RentQNOn amazon there's a difference of 3€ between the 403 and G Pro right now so how is the 403 cheap and G Pro requires sitting on a money bag?
I meant buying both of them
[quote=RentQN]
On amazon there's a difference of 3€ between the 403 and G Pro right now so how is the 403 cheap and G Pro requires sitting on a money bag?[/quote]
I meant buying both of them
On amazon there's a difference of 3€ between the 403 and G Pro right now so how is the 403 cheap and G Pro requires sitting on a money bag?[/quote]
I meant buying both of them
Anything around 90 grams or lower and a decent sensor (3310,3366, mercury) is good. Shape is personal preference.
Anything around 90 grams or lower and a decent sensor (3310,3366, mercury) is good. Shape is personal preference.
RentQNOn amazon there's a difference of 3€ between the 403 and G Pro right now so how is the 403 cheap and G Pro requires sitting on a money bag?
The g102 is 95% as good as the gpro and a lot cheaper.
[quote=RentQN]
On amazon there's a difference of 3€ between the 403 and G Pro right now so how is the 403 cheap and G Pro requires sitting on a money bag?[/quote]
The g102 is 95% as good as the gpro and a lot cheaper.
On amazon there's a difference of 3€ between the 403 and G Pro right now so how is the 403 cheap and G Pro requires sitting on a money bag?[/quote]
The g102 is 95% as good as the gpro and a lot cheaper.
Wmo 1.1a is the best mouse. Intellimouse 3.0 is the second best. I got a G403 recently and it's very good. Much better than any other Logitech/Razer/Zowie mouse I've used besides the G900.
Wmo 1.1a is the best mouse. Intellimouse 3.0 is the second best. I got a G403 recently and it's very good. Much better than any other Logitech/Razer/Zowie mouse I've used besides the G900.
JarateKingKhakiI don't see the ninox aurora on there is it a bad mouseIt fucks up when you try to press M1 and M2 at the same time, it adds over 50ms lag to the input which will fuck up timings bad. Also have heard that the sensor implementation makes the malfunction speed lower than it should be. On top of a bunch of QC issues and the specs just being a few years behind. If you're comfortable using it, it's probably fine, but it's not really recommendable now.
Like the scream one, it sorta died on arrival due to having too many issues, even though it could've been one of the best available if it weren't for bad implementations and bad QC.
well fuck now i have to get a new mouse god damnit
[quote=JarateKing]
[quote=Khaki]I don't see the ninox aurora on there is it a bad mouse[/quote]
It fucks up when you try to press M1 and M2 at the same time, it adds over 50ms lag to the input which will fuck up timings bad. Also have heard that the sensor implementation makes the malfunction speed lower than it should be. On top of a bunch of QC issues and the specs just being a few years behind. If you're comfortable using it, it's probably fine, but it's not really recommendable now.
Like the scream one, it sorta died on arrival due to having too many issues, even though it could've been one of the best available if it weren't for bad implementations and bad QC.[/quote]
well fuck now i have to get a new mouse god damnit
[quote=Khaki]I don't see the ninox aurora on there is it a bad mouse[/quote]
It fucks up when you try to press M1 and M2 at the same time, it adds over 50ms lag to the input which will fuck up timings bad. Also have heard that the sensor implementation makes the malfunction speed lower than it should be. On top of a bunch of QC issues and the specs just being a few years behind. If you're comfortable using it, it's probably fine, but it's not really recommendable now.
Like the scream one, it sorta died on arrival due to having too many issues, even though it could've been one of the best available if it weren't for bad implementations and bad QC.[/quote]
well fuck now i have to get a new mouse god damnit
ScrewballAnything around 90 grams or lower and a decent sensor (3310,3366, mercury) is good. Shape is personal preference.
you cant say shape is a personal preference and then act like there is a gold standard for the 'perfect' weight of a mouse being below 90 grams lol
some people prefer heavier mice some prefer lighter mice instead of pulling this shit out of our ass lets ask op what mice he has had in the past and what he liked/disliked about them (shape/size/weight/etc) and go from there
[quote=Screwball]Anything around 90 grams or lower and a decent sensor (3310,3366, mercury) is good. Shape is personal preference.[/quote]
you cant say shape is a personal preference and then act like there is a gold standard for the 'perfect' weight of a mouse being below 90 grams lol
some people prefer heavier mice some prefer lighter mice instead of pulling this shit out of our ass lets ask op what mice he has had in the past and what he liked/disliked about them (shape/size/weight/etc) and go from there
you cant say shape is a personal preference and then act like there is a gold standard for the 'perfect' weight of a mouse being below 90 grams lol
some people prefer heavier mice some prefer lighter mice instead of pulling this shit out of our ass lets ask op what mice he has had in the past and what he liked/disliked about them (shape/size/weight/etc) and go from there
i really liked this mouse when i had it
very fancy
[url=https://tinyurl.com/zeuzem3]i really liked this mouse when i had it[/url]
very fancy
very fancy
depends on the way you grip your mouse... zowie ec2-a is good for claw and palm (depending on your handsize). G403 is also good for palm Fk2 is good for fingertip.
depends on the way you grip your mouse... zowie ec2-a is good for claw and palm (depending on your handsize). G403 is also good for palm Fk2 is good for fingertip.
Oppebowhats ur guys opinion on the g100
I like mine, it's got some pretty questionable quirks and not great build quality but many people like the shape and weight. The g pro is a similar and much better mouse but if you're looking at a g100 for like 15-20 I'd say that's worthwhile.
[quote=Oppebo]whats ur guys opinion on the g100[/quote]
I like mine, it's got some pretty questionable quirks and not great build quality but many people like the shape and weight. The g pro is a similar and much better mouse but if you're looking at a g100 for like 15-20 I'd say that's worthwhile.
I like mine, it's got some pretty questionable quirks and not great build quality but many people like the shape and weight. The g pro is a similar and much better mouse but if you're looking at a g100 for like 15-20 I'd say that's worthwhile.
ScrewballAnything around 90 grams or lower and a decent sensor (3310,3366, mercury) is good. Shape is personal preference.
Pretty sure weight is a mostly preference thing as well.
there's a plethora of top level CSGO players using mice over or around 100g. Unless you count 100g "around" 90g though
A fine point to make on this is Scream went from using a ~104g DeathAdder to a ~80g FinalMouse with his name on it and his aim doesn't seem any better or any worse for that matter.
[quote=Screwball]Anything around 90 grams or lower and a decent sensor (3310,3366, mercury) is good. Shape is personal preference.[/quote]
Pretty sure weight is a mostly preference thing as well.
there's a plethora of top level CSGO players using mice over or around 100g. Unless you count 100g "around" 90g though
A fine point to make on this is Scream went from using a ~104g DeathAdder to a ~80g FinalMouse with his name on it and his aim doesn't seem any better or any worse for that matter.
Pretty sure weight is a mostly preference thing as well.
there's a plethora of top level CSGO players using mice over or around 100g. Unless you count 100g "around" 90g though
A fine point to make on this is Scream went from using a ~104g DeathAdder to a ~80g FinalMouse with his name on it and his aim doesn't seem any better or any worse for that matter.
what possible benefit does a heavy mouse give you? as long as the mouse is balanced
what possible benefit does a heavy mouse give you? as long as the mouse is balanced
I'm currently using the Raptor M30. I personally like it because the shape, size, weight etc. makes it really comfortable for me to use personally, but it's got a whole heap of issues such as the scroll wheel scrolling in random directions if you scroll in a certain direction. Overall I'd say it isn't the best mouse by a long shot.
I'm currently using the Raptor M30. I personally like it because the shape, size, weight etc. makes it really comfortable for me to use personally, but it's got a whole heap of issues such as the scroll wheel scrolling in random directions if you scroll in a certain direction. Overall I'd say it isn't the best mouse by a long shot.
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