HaHA! I love eu drama
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sonnyblacks statement is the truth, germans dont know fun or satire
sonnyblacks statement is the truth, germans dont know fun or satire
I do not think I need to post anymore after reading Gubbins post, there is literally no way you can respond to this level of cringe. Holy shit.
I do not think I need to post anymore after reading Gubbins post, there is literally no way you can respond to this level of cringe. Holy shit.
ScrambledPost your sources please.
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/873/260/a5b.png
[quote=Scrambled]Post your sources please.[/quote]
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/873/260/a5b.png
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/873/260/a5b.png
MKYthanks for quoting the whole thing again riot.
just need to flex that index finger
[quote=MKY]thanks for quoting the whole thing again riot.[/quote]
just need to flex that index finger
just need to flex that index finger
I need to get to the bottom of this. can kaidus, permizlla thalash, hildreth and kaidus ever be friends again?
I need to get to the bottom of this. can kaidus, permizlla thalash, hildreth and kaidus ever be friends again?
Hello dear TF2 community,
for those who do not know me, I am one of the two people (the other one being Aoshi) who recently took over Head Adminship of the ETF2L.
Every season we spend an enormous amount of time deciding who gets to play in prem next season and who needs to qualify and how. I assure you we are aware of the difficulties that the process of this decision brings. In the end there will be a decision made and not everyone will be happy with it- that's how life works.
It surprises me to see this thread exploding the way it did over something that may or may not have happened over 2 years ago. Looks like a chain-reaction to me, where several people got baited into discussing a matter in public that should have stayed privately.
Be it as it may, I wanted to clearify a couple of things:
I was already an admin when Hildreth left the staff 2 years ago. In fact, I had a very heated discussion with him about it the very night the decision was made that he'd leave the staff and not every word in there was nice. I am fully aware of what happened and witnessed it first hand.
However, Hildreth expressed his desire to rejoin the adminteam by formally applying last october. After SonnyBlack stepped down, we were looking for refreshments for the adminstaff in order to fill the gap that Aoshi and I left behind when we got promoted to Heads. Hildreth again expressed his interest and we decided to give him another shot.
We decided to shake off some rust that had settled step by step over the last few years without anyone really noticing (for instance reaching out to our supposed competitor UGCLeague) and that this new and hopefully successful era after the retirement of the last "old school" veteran SonnyBlack should mark a fresh start. Our staff has been incredibly busy and productive this year so far, firing out competitions and initiatives, catching up on the medaldistribution etc... And Hildreth has had his share of input.
We did not forget what happened (BTW, the fact that he is a trial admin shows that), but we also shouldn't hold grudges for too long. Usually former staff members do not undergo the trial process again...We are fully aware of Hildreth's strengths and weaknesses.
That being said, It has always been my sincerest belief that we, as a TF2 - or in this case ETF2L - community cannot afford the luxury of being divided. We are small enough as it is and we should work together hand in hand for the game that we love so much, whether you like 9v9 or 6v6, whether you are an active admin or a retired one etc... Especially when the topic in question is completely irrelevant to any current events. So everyone should calm down, go outside and enjoy some sunlight. (:
It saddens me that (former) staffmembers felt the need to get involved in this kind of public drama. As for current staffmembers, there will be no further statements in this thread from this point on.
If you have any more input on relevant topics, feel free to contact an admin through IRC or message me on discord.
Thank you for your attention!
Much love, Stinson_Out | ETF2L.org
Hello dear TF2 community,
for those who do not know me, I am one of the two people (the other one being Aoshi) who recently took over Head Adminship of the ETF2L.
Every season we spend an enormous amount of time deciding who gets to play in prem next season and who needs to qualify and how. I assure you we are aware of the difficulties that the process of this decision brings. In the end there will be a decision made and not everyone will be happy with it- that's how life works.
It surprises me to see this thread exploding the way it did over something that may or may not have happened over 2 years ago. Looks like a chain-reaction to me, where several people got baited into discussing a matter in public that should have stayed privately.
Be it as it may, I wanted to clearify a couple of things:
I was already an admin when Hildreth left the staff 2 years ago. In fact, I had a very heated discussion with him about it the very night the decision was made that he'd leave the staff and not every word in there was nice. I am fully aware of what happened and witnessed it first hand.
However, Hildreth expressed his desire to rejoin the adminteam by formally applying last october. After SonnyBlack stepped down, we were looking for refreshments for the adminstaff in order to fill the gap that Aoshi and I left behind when we got promoted to Heads. Hildreth again expressed his interest and we decided to give him another shot.
We decided to shake off some rust that had settled step by step over the last few years without anyone really noticing (for instance reaching out to our supposed competitor UGCLeague) and that this new and hopefully successful era after the retirement of the last "old school" veteran SonnyBlack should mark a fresh start. Our staff has been incredibly busy and productive this year so far, firing out competitions and initiatives, catching up on the medaldistribution etc... And Hildreth has had his share of input.
We did not forget what happened (BTW, the fact that he is a trial admin shows that), but we also shouldn't hold grudges for too long. Usually former staff members do not undergo the trial process again...We are fully aware of Hildreth's strengths and weaknesses.
That being said, It has always been my sincerest belief that we, as a TF2 - or in this case ETF2L - community cannot afford the luxury of being divided. We are small enough as it is and we should work together hand in hand for the game that we love so much, whether you like 9v9 or 6v6, whether you are an active admin or a retired one etc... Especially when the topic in question is completely irrelevant to any current events. So everyone should calm down, go outside and enjoy some sunlight. (:
It saddens me that (former) staffmembers felt the need to get involved in this kind of public drama. As for current staffmembers, there will be no further statements in this thread from this point on.
If you have any more input on relevant topics, feel free to contact an admin through IRC or message me on discord.
Thank you for your attention!
Much love, Stinson_Out | ETF2L.org
for those who do not know me, I am one of the two people (the other one being Aoshi) who recently took over Head Adminship of the ETF2L.
Every season we spend an enormous amount of time deciding who gets to play in prem next season and who needs to qualify and how. I assure you we are aware of the difficulties that the process of this decision brings. In the end there will be a decision made and not everyone will be happy with it- that's how life works.
It surprises me to see this thread exploding the way it did over something that may or may not have happened over 2 years ago. Looks like a chain-reaction to me, where several people got baited into discussing a matter in public that should have stayed privately.
Be it as it may, I wanted to clearify a couple of things:
I was already an admin when Hildreth left the staff 2 years ago. In fact, I had a very heated discussion with him about it the very night the decision was made that he'd leave the staff and not every word in there was nice. I am fully aware of what happened and witnessed it first hand.
However, Hildreth expressed his desire to rejoin the adminteam by formally applying last october. After SonnyBlack stepped down, we were looking for refreshments for the adminstaff in order to fill the gap that Aoshi and I left behind when we got promoted to Heads. Hildreth again expressed his interest and we decided to give him another shot.
We decided to shake off some rust that had settled step by step over the last few years without anyone really noticing (for instance reaching out to our supposed competitor UGCLeague) and that this new and hopefully successful era after the retirement of the last "old school" veteran SonnyBlack should mark a fresh start. Our staff has been incredibly busy and productive this year so far, firing out competitions and initiatives, catching up on the medaldistribution etc... And Hildreth has had his share of input.
We did not forget what happened (BTW, the fact that he is a trial admin shows that), but we also shouldn't hold grudges for too long. Usually former staff members do not undergo the trial process again...We are fully aware of Hildreth's strengths and weaknesses.
That being said, It has always been my sincerest belief that we, as a TF2 - or in this case ETF2L - community cannot afford the luxury of being divided. We are small enough as it is and we should work together hand in hand for the game that we love so much, whether you like 9v9 or 6v6, whether you are an active admin or a retired one etc... Especially when the topic in question is completely irrelevant to any current events. So everyone should calm down, go outside and enjoy some sunlight. (:
It saddens me that (former) staffmembers felt the need to get involved in this kind of public drama. As for current staffmembers, there will be no further statements in this thread from this point on.
If you have any more input on relevant topics, feel free to contact an admin through IRC or message me on discord.
Thank you for your attention!
Much love, Stinson_Out | ETF2L.org
Best of luck to Crayon as well, he has really stepped up in the past year to become a stellar player and a true followup to the Irish potato man himself.
Best of luck to Crayon as well, he has really stepped up in the past year to become a stellar player and a true followup to the Irish potato man himself.
Stinson_Out
Much love, Stinson_Out
I love how this reads, it's like a mic drop
[quote=Stinson_Out]
Much love, Stinson_Out [/quote]
I love how this reads, it's like a mic drop
Much love, Stinson_Out [/quote]
I love how this reads, it's like a mic drop
nuzeStinson_OutI love how this reads, it's like a mic drop
Much love, Stinson_Out
kobe did it first... dont give him credit
[quote=nuze][quote=Stinson_Out]
Much love, Stinson_Out [/quote]
I love how this reads, it's like a mic drop[/quote]
kobe did it first... dont give him credit
Much love, Stinson_Out [/quote]
I love how this reads, it's like a mic drop[/quote]
kobe did it first... dont give him credit
Zetsu
kobe did it first... dont give him credit
I have had this nickname on steam for over 4 years... ;-)
[quote=Zetsu]
kobe did it first... dont give him credit[/quote]
I have had this nickname on steam for over 4 years... ;-)
kobe did it first... dont give him credit[/quote]
I have had this nickname on steam for over 4 years... ;-)
AlexandrosHildreth
I meant Fully Charged EU not Pirate Radio, there have been several re-iterations of this name over the years. Look it up if you want it was Episode 20 I believe.
It's right in the beginning of Episode 20, just checked. Not commenting on its relevance, but Hildreth does have the correct episode.
Hildreth.. a week later I was giving you advice on how to promote the Swiss System on Pirate Radio, check the VOD out at the bits..
Again, not Pirate Radio. They are different shows, controlled and created by different people. Fully Charged is controlled by TFTV, anything done there has nothing to do with Pirate Radio (apart from overlapping as guests), and we definitely don't want to be associated with this ridiculous drama. Ironically, ridiculous drama was Pirate Radio's "thing", so that's saying something!
[quote=Alexandros][quote=Hildreth]
I meant Fully Charged EU not Pirate Radio, there have been several re-iterations of this name over the years. Look it up if you want it was Episode 20 I believe.[/quote]
It's right in the beginning of Episode 20, just checked. Not commenting on its relevance, but Hildreth does have the correct episode.[/quote]
[quote=Hildreth]
.. a week later I was giving you advice on how to promote the Swiss System on Pirate Radio, check the VOD out at the bits..
[/quote]
Again, not Pirate Radio. They are different shows, controlled and created by different people. Fully Charged is controlled by TFTV, anything done there has nothing to do with Pirate Radio (apart from overlapping as guests), and we definitely don't want to be associated with this ridiculous drama. Ironically, ridiculous drama was Pirate Radio's "thing", so that's saying something!
I meant Fully Charged EU not Pirate Radio, there have been several re-iterations of this name over the years. Look it up if you want it was Episode 20 I believe.[/quote]
It's right in the beginning of Episode 20, just checked. Not commenting on its relevance, but Hildreth does have the correct episode.[/quote]
[quote=Hildreth]
.. a week later I was giving you advice on how to promote the Swiss System on Pirate Radio, check the VOD out at the bits..
[/quote]
Again, not Pirate Radio. They are different shows, controlled and created by different people. Fully Charged is controlled by TFTV, anything done there has nothing to do with Pirate Radio (apart from overlapping as guests), and we definitely don't want to be associated with this ridiculous drama. Ironically, ridiculous drama was Pirate Radio's "thing", so that's saying something!
Wow what a great read .I especially liked the parts where people got proven wrong in some way or another, then changed the subject in their next post constantly trying to one up the other guy. I got the feeling i was reading a debate on who's got the bigger e-shlong.
Also nuze is the first scotish lan winner right. Thats pretty cool
P.S. Good for Crayon for joining Lowpander after he got humiliated in a worse way than herr_p in a etf2l highlight video !
Wow what a great read .I especially liked the parts where people got proven wrong in some way or another, then changed the subject in their next post constantly trying to one up the other guy. I got the feeling i was reading a debate on who's got the bigger e-shlong.
Also nuze is the first scotish lan winner right. Thats pretty cool
P.S. Good for Crayon for joining Lowpander after he got humiliated in a worse way than herr_p in a etf2l highlight video !
Also nuze is the first scotish lan winner right. Thats pretty cool
P.S. Good for Crayon for joining Lowpander after he got humiliated in a worse way than herr_p in a etf2l highlight video !
if i dropped uber to a telefrag in an official, i would just instantly ragequit and never play the game again
if i dropped uber to a telefrag in an official, i would just instantly ragequit and never play the game again
ondkajaif i dropped uber to a telefrag in an official, i would just instantly ragequit and never play the game again
It's almost as bad as getting consistently Market Gardened by dd5f , not capping a point which throws the entire game or going 8-29 in an official as scout.Crayon is now in the club of not so lucky individuals.
FeelsBadMan
[quote=ondkaja]if i dropped uber to a telefrag in an official, i would just instantly ragequit and never play the game again[/quote]
It's almost as bad as getting consistently Market Gardened by dd5f , not capping a point which throws the entire game or going 8-29 in an official as scout.Crayon is now in the club of not so lucky individuals.
FeelsBadMan
It's almost as bad as getting consistently Market Gardened by dd5f , not capping a point which throws the entire game or going 8-29 in an official as scout.Crayon is now in the club of not so lucky individuals.
FeelsBadMan
Lupusondkajaif i dropped uber to a telefrag in an official, i would just instantly ragequit and never play the game again
It's almost as bad as getting consistently Market Gardened by dd5f
going 8-29 in an official as scout.
FeelsBadMan
who are these?
[quote=Lupus][quote=ondkaja]if i dropped uber to a telefrag in an official, i would just instantly ragequit and never play the game again[/quote]
It's almost as bad as getting consistently Market Gardened by dd5f
going 8-29 in an official as scout.
FeelsBadMan[/quote]
who are these?
It's almost as bad as getting consistently Market Gardened by dd5f
going 8-29 in an official as scout.
FeelsBadMan[/quote]
who are these?
EoNLupuswho are these?ondkajaif i dropped uber to a telefrag in an official, i would just instantly ragequit and never play the game again
It's almost as bad as getting consistently Market Gardened by dd5f
going 8-29 in an official as scout.
FeelsBadMan
unspoken heroes...
[quote=EoN][quote=Lupus][quote=ondkaja]if i dropped uber to a telefrag in an official, i would just instantly ragequit and never play the game again[/quote]
It's almost as bad as getting consistently Market Gardened by dd5f
going 8-29 in an official as scout.
FeelsBadMan[/quote]
who are these?[/quote]
unspoken heroes...
It's almost as bad as getting consistently Market Gardened by dd5f
going 8-29 in an official as scout.
FeelsBadMan[/quote]
who are these?[/quote]
unspoken heroes...
Going to the real important issue in this thread.
nuzeStinson_OutI love how this reads, it's like a mic drop
Much love, Stinson_Out
Mic dropping should not be encouraged, they are sensitive things and take a lot of resources to produce and dropping electronics on the ground to look stylish is irresponsible behavior.
look how dumb you can seem to be in retrospect when you do something like this: https://youtu.be/wC1NGWM8gP8?t=21
Going to the real important issue in this thread.
[quote=nuze][quote=Stinson_Out]
Much love, Stinson_Out [/quote]
I love how this reads, it's like a mic drop[/quote]
Mic dropping should not be encouraged, they are sensitive things and take a lot of resources to produce and dropping electronics on the ground to look stylish is irresponsible behavior.
look how dumb you can seem to be in retrospect when you do something like this: https://youtu.be/wC1NGWM8gP8?t=21
[quote=nuze][quote=Stinson_Out]
Much love, Stinson_Out [/quote]
I love how this reads, it's like a mic drop[/quote]
Mic dropping should not be encouraged, they are sensitive things and take a lot of resources to produce and dropping electronics on the ground to look stylish is irresponsible behavior.
look how dumb you can seem to be in retrospect when you do something like this: https://youtu.be/wC1NGWM8gP8?t=21
georgebaiiCan this thread die yet...
i dont know lets keep bumping it
[quote=georgebaii]Can this thread die yet...[/quote]
i dont know lets keep bumping it
i dont know lets keep bumping it
EoNLupuswho are these?
It's almost as bad as getting consistently Market Gardened by dd5f
going 8-29 in an official as scout.
FeelsBadMan
ond kaja and lupus respectively (I think)
[quote=EoN][quote=Lupus]
It's almost as bad as getting consistently Market Gardened by dd5f
going 8-29 in an official as scout.
FeelsBadMan[/quote]
who are these?[/quote]
ond kaja and lupus respectively (I think)
It's almost as bad as getting consistently Market Gardened by dd5f
going 8-29 in an official as scout.
FeelsBadMan[/quote]
who are these?[/quote]
ond kaja and lupus respectively (I think)
Lupusondkajaif i dropped uber to a telefrag in an official, i would just instantly ragequit and never play the game again
It's almost as bad as getting consistently Market Gardened by dd5f , not capping a point which throws the entire game or going 8-29 in an official as scout.Crayon is now in the club of not so lucky individuals.
FeelsBadMan
i feel like going 8-29 in an official is more just being bad than unlucky
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whoops, bad RNG, i went 8-29 on the best class in the game
[quote=Lupus][quote=ondkaja]if i dropped uber to a telefrag in an official, i would just instantly ragequit and never play the game again[/quote]
It's almost as bad as getting consistently Market Gardened by dd5f , not capping a point which throws the entire game or going 8-29 in an official as scout.Crayon is now in the club of not so lucky individuals.
FeelsBadMan[/quote]
i feel like going 8-29 in an official is more just being bad than unlucky
[spoiler]whoops, bad RNG, i went 8-29 on the best class in the game[/spoiler]
It's almost as bad as getting consistently Market Gardened by dd5f , not capping a point which throws the entire game or going 8-29 in an official as scout.Crayon is now in the club of not so lucky individuals.
FeelsBadMan[/quote]
i feel like going 8-29 in an official is more just being bad than unlucky
[spoiler]whoops, bad RNG, i went 8-29 on the best class in the game[/spoiler]
Stinson_OutHello dear TF2 community,
for those who do not know me, I am one of the two people (the other one being Aoshi) who recently took over Head Adminship of the ETF2L.
Every season we spend an enormous amount of time deciding who gets to play in prem next season and who needs to qualify and how. I assure you we are aware of the difficulties that the process of this decision brings. In the end there will be a decision made and not everyone will be happy with it- that's how life works.
It surprises me to see this thread exploding the way it did over something that may or may not have happened over 2 years ago. Looks like a chain-reaction to me, where several people got baited into discussing a matter in public that should have stayed privately.
Be it as it may, I wanted to clearify a couple of things:
I was already an admin when Hildreth left the staff 2 years ago. In fact, I had a very heated discussion with him about it the very night the decision was made that he'd leave the staff and not every word in there was nice. I am fully aware of what happened and witnessed it first hand.
However, Hildreth expressed his desire to rejoin the adminteam by formally applying last october. After SonnyBlack stepped down, we were looking for refreshments for the adminstaff in order to fill the gap that Aoshi and I left behind when we got promoted to Heads. Hildreth again expressed his interest and we decided to give him another shot.
We decided to shake off some rust that had settled step by step over the last few years without anyone really noticing (for instance reaching out to our supposed competitor UGCLeague) and that this new and hopefully successful era after the retirement of the last "old school" veteran SonnyBlack should mark a fresh start. Our staff has been incredibly busy and productive this year so far, firing out competitions and initiatives, catching up on the medaldistribution etc... And Hildreth has had his share of input.
We did not forget what happened (BTW, the fact that he is a trial admin shows that), but we also shouldn't hold grudges for too long. Usually former staff members do not undergo the trial process again...We are fully aware of Hildreth's strengths and weaknesses.
That being said, It has always been my sincerest belief that we, as a TF2 - or in this case ETF2L - community cannot afford the luxury of being divided. We are small enough as it is and we should work together hand in hand for the game that we love so much, whether you like 9v9 or 6v6, whether you are an active admin or a retired one etc... Especially when the topic in question is completely irrelevant to any current events. So everyone should calm down, go outside and enjoy some sunlight. (:
It saddens me that (former) staffmembers felt the need to get involved in this kind of public drama. As for current staffmembers, there will be no further statements in this thread from this point on.
If you have any more input on relevant topics, feel free to contact an admin through IRC or message me on discord.
Thank you for your attention!
Much love, Stinson_Out | ETF2L.org
I agree completely - a very reasonable post given the difficult situation. I am disappointed in myself for being baited in replying but as I will explain it was hard for me not to. I will not reply to Hildreth's prior post (I've said what I wanted to already) but I just want to defend my behaviour here as I know it is immature.
As you all might be able to tell this issue at the time hit very hard and the document at hand was something I had worked very hard on and a put a lot of personal time into. That's what has caused this reaction now, plenty of other things over the years have happened which could cause similar drama and I can ignore them easily. I have not attacked Hildreth personally - only stated what happened, and I would not want to harm the league I've put so much of my time into even if I have done so here unintentionally.
Like I said already, I've said what happened and I don't need to say anything else on the matter, I apologise to Stinson and the rest of ETF2L for any difficult situations caused by posting about this publicly.
EDIT: After talking to a few people/ex-admins, I was wrong about Hildreth being kicked after the events pretold. He left the staff and then the events happened after that. I apologise to Hildreth for that mistake which was a genuine one. I stand by the rest of the events.
[quote=Stinson_Out]Hello dear TF2 community,
for those who do not know me, I am one of the two people (the other one being Aoshi) who recently took over Head Adminship of the ETF2L.
Every season we spend an enormous amount of time deciding who gets to play in prem next season and who needs to qualify and how. I assure you we are aware of the difficulties that the process of this decision brings. In the end there will be a decision made and not everyone will be happy with it- that's how life works.
It surprises me to see this thread exploding the way it did over something that may or may not have happened over 2 years ago. Looks like a chain-reaction to me, where several people got baited into discussing a matter in public that should have stayed privately.
Be it as it may, I wanted to clearify a couple of things:
I was already an admin when Hildreth left the staff 2 years ago. In fact, I had a very heated discussion with him about it the very night the decision was made that he'd leave the staff and not every word in there was nice. I am fully aware of what happened and witnessed it first hand.
However, Hildreth expressed his desire to rejoin the adminteam by formally applying last october. After SonnyBlack stepped down, we were looking for refreshments for the adminstaff in order to fill the gap that Aoshi and I left behind when we got promoted to Heads. Hildreth again expressed his interest and we decided to give him another shot.
We decided to shake off some rust that had settled step by step over the last few years without anyone really noticing (for instance reaching out to our supposed competitor UGCLeague) and that this new and hopefully successful era after the retirement of the last "old school" veteran SonnyBlack should mark a fresh start. Our staff has been incredibly busy and productive this year so far, firing out competitions and initiatives, catching up on the medaldistribution etc... And Hildreth has had his share of input.
We did not forget what happened (BTW, the fact that he is a trial admin shows that), but we also shouldn't hold grudges for too long. Usually former staff members do not undergo the trial process again...We are fully aware of Hildreth's strengths and weaknesses.
That being said, It has always been my sincerest belief that we, as a TF2 - or in this case ETF2L - community cannot afford the luxury of being divided. We are small enough as it is and we should work together hand in hand for the game that we love so much, whether you like 9v9 or 6v6, whether you are an active admin or a retired one etc... Especially when the topic in question is completely irrelevant to any current events. So everyone should calm down, go outside and enjoy some sunlight. (:
It saddens me that (former) staffmembers felt the need to get involved in this kind of public drama. As for current staffmembers, there will be no further statements in this thread from this point on.
If you have any more input on relevant topics, feel free to contact an admin through IRC or message me on discord.
Thank you for your attention!
Much love, Stinson_Out | ETF2L.org[/quote]
I agree completely - a very reasonable post given the difficult situation. I am disappointed in myself for being baited in replying but as I will explain it was hard for me not to. I will not reply to Hildreth's prior post (I've said what I wanted to already) but I just want to defend my behaviour here as I know it is immature.
As you all might be able to tell this issue at the time hit very hard and the document at hand was something I had worked very hard on and a put a lot of personal time into. That's what has caused this reaction now, plenty of other things over the years have happened which could cause similar drama and I can ignore them easily. I have not attacked Hildreth personally - only stated what happened, and I would not want to harm the league I've put so much of my time into even if I have done so here unintentionally.
Like I said already, I've said what happened and I don't need to say anything else on the matter, I apologise to Stinson and the rest of ETF2L for any difficult situations caused by posting about this publicly.
EDIT: After talking to a few people/ex-admins, I was wrong about Hildreth being kicked after the events pretold. He left the staff and then the events happened after that. I apologise to Hildreth for that mistake which was a genuine one. I stand by the rest of the events.
for those who do not know me, I am one of the two people (the other one being Aoshi) who recently took over Head Adminship of the ETF2L.
Every season we spend an enormous amount of time deciding who gets to play in prem next season and who needs to qualify and how. I assure you we are aware of the difficulties that the process of this decision brings. In the end there will be a decision made and not everyone will be happy with it- that's how life works.
It surprises me to see this thread exploding the way it did over something that may or may not have happened over 2 years ago. Looks like a chain-reaction to me, where several people got baited into discussing a matter in public that should have stayed privately.
Be it as it may, I wanted to clearify a couple of things:
I was already an admin when Hildreth left the staff 2 years ago. In fact, I had a very heated discussion with him about it the very night the decision was made that he'd leave the staff and not every word in there was nice. I am fully aware of what happened and witnessed it first hand.
However, Hildreth expressed his desire to rejoin the adminteam by formally applying last october. After SonnyBlack stepped down, we were looking for refreshments for the adminstaff in order to fill the gap that Aoshi and I left behind when we got promoted to Heads. Hildreth again expressed his interest and we decided to give him another shot.
We decided to shake off some rust that had settled step by step over the last few years without anyone really noticing (for instance reaching out to our supposed competitor UGCLeague) and that this new and hopefully successful era after the retirement of the last "old school" veteran SonnyBlack should mark a fresh start. Our staff has been incredibly busy and productive this year so far, firing out competitions and initiatives, catching up on the medaldistribution etc... And Hildreth has had his share of input.
We did not forget what happened (BTW, the fact that he is a trial admin shows that), but we also shouldn't hold grudges for too long. Usually former staff members do not undergo the trial process again...We are fully aware of Hildreth's strengths and weaknesses.
That being said, It has always been my sincerest belief that we, as a TF2 - or in this case ETF2L - community cannot afford the luxury of being divided. We are small enough as it is and we should work together hand in hand for the game that we love so much, whether you like 9v9 or 6v6, whether you are an active admin or a retired one etc... Especially when the topic in question is completely irrelevant to any current events. So everyone should calm down, go outside and enjoy some sunlight. (:
It saddens me that (former) staffmembers felt the need to get involved in this kind of public drama. As for current staffmembers, there will be no further statements in this thread from this point on.
If you have any more input on relevant topics, feel free to contact an admin through IRC or message me on discord.
Thank you for your attention!
Much love, Stinson_Out | ETF2L.org[/quote]
I agree completely - a very reasonable post given the difficult situation. I am disappointed in myself for being baited in replying but as I will explain it was hard for me not to. I will not reply to Hildreth's prior post (I've said what I wanted to already) but I just want to defend my behaviour here as I know it is immature.
As you all might be able to tell this issue at the time hit very hard and the document at hand was something I had worked very hard on and a put a lot of personal time into. That's what has caused this reaction now, plenty of other things over the years have happened which could cause similar drama and I can ignore them easily. I have not attacked Hildreth personally - only stated what happened, and I would not want to harm the league I've put so much of my time into even if I have done so here unintentionally.
Like I said already, I've said what happened and I don't need to say anything else on the matter, I apologise to Stinson and the rest of ETF2L for any difficult situations caused by posting about this publicly.
EDIT: After talking to a few people/ex-admins, I was wrong about Hildreth being kicked after the events pretold. He left the staff and then the events happened after that. I apologise to Hildreth for that mistake which was a genuine one. I stand by the rest of the events.
Admitting a mistake shows whaz a great individual you are
and i agree getting baited into these arguments is a bad habit i find myself in way too often aswell
Admitting a mistake shows whaz a great individual you are
and i agree getting baited into these arguments is a bad habit i find myself in way too often aswell
and i agree getting baited into these arguments is a bad habit i find myself in way too often aswell
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