nah, 7s is just a bag of shit
Remember wayyyy back when we thought we lived in a geocentric model and people thought Galileo Galilei was a lunatic for thinking that we werent the center of the universe
mathemaphysicistRemember wayyyy back when we thought we lived in a geocentric model and people thought Galileo Galilei was a lunatic for thinking that we werent the center of the universe
so u mean we need to put sigafoo under house arrest for heresy?
so u mean we need to put sigafoo under house arrest for heresy?
Scrambled you have no argument for why this format is in any way superior. You are being downfragged for being dumb and wrong.
pendaScrambled you have no argument for why this format is in any way superior. You are being downfragged for being dumb and wrong.
I've never claimed that this format is superior to 6s. I've claimed that it wasn't intended to replace 6s, and that it is no way representative of it. If you want to see my arguments for and against 7s, see the previous thread: http://www.teamfortress.tv/41286/sigafoo-tf2-league
I'm being downfragged because I'm calling 6s players retards on a forum that is dominated by 6s players.
I've never claimed that this format is superior to 6s. I've claimed that it wasn't intended to replace 6s, and that it is no way representative of it. If you want to see my arguments for and against 7s, see the previous thread: http://www.teamfortress.tv/41286/sigafoo-tf2-league
I'm being downfragged because I'm calling 6s players retards on a forum that is dominated by 6s players.
rivkaScrambledI've never claimed that this format is superior to 6s. I've claimed that it wasn't intended to replace 6s, and that it is no way representative of it.but if it's not supposed to be a replacement whats the point? having an entirely separate third gamemode so an already tiny is split into 3 communities rather than 2?
It's supposed to be a game mode that payload works on, IMO it could replace highlander.
but if it's not supposed to be a replacement whats the point? having an entirely separate third gamemode so an already tiny is split into 3 communities rather than 2?[/quote]
It's supposed to be a game mode that payload works on, IMO it could replace highlander.
ScrambledIMO it could replace highlander.
lol no
IMO it could replace highlander.[/quote]
lol no
Scrambledthesqrtminus1lol nogr8 argument
this format is even shittier than highlander how could it replace it
lol no[/quote]
gr8 argument[/quote]
this format is even shittier than highlander how could it replace it
thesqrtminus1Scrambledthis format is even shittier than highlander how could it replace itthesqrtminus1lol nogr8 argument
again, you still have no argument
ScrambledIf you want to see my arguments for and against 7s, see the previous thread: http://www.teamfortress.tv/41286/sigafoo-tf2-league
lol no[/quote]
gr8 argument[/quote]
this format is even shittier than highlander how could it replace it[/quote]
again, you still have no argument
[quote=Scrambled]If you want to see my arguments for and against 7s, see the previous thread: http://www.teamfortress.tv/41286/sigafoo-tf2-league[/quote]
thesqrtminus1Scrambledthis format is even shittier than highlander how could it replace itthesqrtminus1lol nogr8 argument
I don't really see how it's worse.
Surely less of a spammy clusterfuck.
lol no[/quote]
gr8 argument[/quote]
this format is even shittier than highlander how could it replace it[/quote]
I don't really see how it's worse.
Surely less of a spammy clusterfuck.
Scrambledgr8 argument
Scrambledagain, you still have no argument
I went through your post history, you've replied "nuh uh" to a lot of people, but as far as I can tell your argument:
ScrambledThis format has merits over the other formats.
Its playstyle is representative of pubs, unlike 6s.
It isn't a logistic nightmare for matchmaking/team leading, unlike highlander.
You've been replied to with reasoning for all of these in the other thread.
Clarify, and stop the ad hominem, because at the moment... you have provided no argument only your opinion with no substance.
gr8 argument[/quote]
[quote=Scrambled]
again, you still have no argument[/quote]
I went through your post history, you've replied "nuh uh" to a lot of people, but as far as I can tell your argument:
[quote=Scrambled]This format has merits over the other formats.
Its playstyle is representative of pubs, unlike 6s.
It isn't a logistic nightmare for matchmaking/team leading, unlike highlander.[/quote]
You've been replied to with reasoning for all of these in the other thread.
Clarify, and stop the ad hominem, because at the moment... [i]you have provided no argument[/i] only your opinion with no substance.
Scrambled starts posting and wooops there goes the neighborhood
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KairuI went through your post history, you've replied "nuh uh" to a lot of people
I struggled to find examples of this, please share.
KairuI was struggling to find an example of this myselfScrambledThis format has merits over the other formats.You've been replied to with reasoning for all of these in the other thread.
Its playstyle is representative of pubs, unlike 6s.
It isn't a logistic nightmare for matchmaking/team leading, unlike highlander.
Clarify, and stop the ad hominem, because at the moment... you have provided no argument only your opinion with no substance.
I think its fair to say I've provided quite a lot of arguments for the format in the other thread, what you quoted was a tldr I provided to stop people from missing the point of my other arguments. I let it go a little bit because it felt both like running in circles and talking to a brick wall at the same time in the other thread, I'll probably tell people why they're wrong there when I can be bothered.
Also, I'm not using ad hominem, because I'm insulting people as well as providing an argument, not instead of.
I went through your post history, you've replied "nuh uh" to a lot of people
[/quote]
I struggled to find examples of this, please share.
[quote=Kairu]
I was struggling to find an example of this myself
[quote=Scrambled]This format has merits over the other formats.
Its playstyle is representative of pubs, unlike 6s.
It isn't a logistic nightmare for matchmaking/team leading, unlike highlander.[/quote]
You've been replied to with reasoning for all of these in the other thread.
Clarify, and stop the ad hominem, because at the moment... [i]you have provided no argument[/i] only your opinion with no substance.[/quote]
I think its fair to say I've provided quite a lot of arguments for the format in the other thread, what you quoted was a tldr I provided to stop people from missing the point of my other arguments. I let it go a little bit because it felt both like running in circles and talking to a brick wall at the same time in the other thread, I'll probably tell people why they're wrong there when I can be bothered.
Also, I'm not using ad hominem, because I'm insulting people as well as providing an argument, not instead of.
ScrambledI think its fair to say I've provided quite a lot of arguments for the format in the other thread, what you quoted was a tldr I provided to stop people from missing the point of my other arguments. I let it go a little bit because it felt both like running in circles and talking to a brick wall at the same time in the other thread, I'll probably tell people why they're wrong there when I can be bothered.
Also, I'm not using ad hominem, because I'm insulting people as well as providing an argument, not instead of.
again, you still have no argument
I think its fair to say I've provided quite a lot of arguments for the format in the other thread, what you quoted was a tldr I provided to stop people from missing the point of my other arguments. I let it go a little bit because it felt both like running in circles and talking to a brick wall at the same time in the other thread, I'll probably tell people why they're wrong there when I can be bothered.
Also, I'm not using ad hominem, because I'm insulting people as well as providing an argument, not instead of.[/quote]
again, you still have no argument
ScrambledITT: more entitled 6s players thinking that this format is either aimed at them as a replacement for 6s or a direct threat to 6s.
what the fuck are we entitled to? the least shitty end of the shitty stick valve has given the competitive community? at this point i'm pretty sure you got all your debating skills from the youtube comments section.
downfrag me cus im right
you're literally at the point where u think that throwing a bitch fit on tftv and then wondering why everyone thinks you're a retard is a good idea. nobody is downfragging you because you're right. we're downfragging you because you've done nothing but talk shit and not address any arguments made against your position.
stop posting you mong.
what the fuck are we entitled to? the least shitty end of the shitty stick valve has given the competitive community? at this point i'm pretty sure you got all your debating skills from the youtube comments section.
[quote]downfrag me cus im right[/quote]
you're literally at the point where u think that throwing a bitch fit on tftv and then wondering why everyone thinks you're a retard is a good idea. nobody is downfragging you because you're right. we're downfragging you because you've done nothing but talk shit and not address any arguments made against your position.
stop posting you mong.
VulcanSo pubber who only plays engineer vs pubber who only plays spy
Both Comp players.
Both Comp players.
KairuScrambledI think its fair to say I've provided quite a lot of arguments for the format in the other thread, what you quoted was a tldr I provided to stop people from missing the point of my other arguments. I let it go a little bit because it felt both like running in circles and talking to a brick wall at the same time in the other thread, I'll probably tell people why they're wrong there when I can be bothered.again, you still have no argument
Also, I'm not using ad hominem, because I'm insulting people as well as providing an argument, not instead of.
Your argument is that I have provided no arguments for 7s.
My argument is that I have, and I have provided evidence of that.
Your argument remains the same.
knsumewhat the fuck are we entitled to? the least shitty end of the shitty stick valve has given the competitive community? at this point i'm pretty sure you got all your debating skills from the youtube comments section.
People are entitled in thinking that someone providing his own money to cater to his own interests also has to cater to their interests.
knsumeyou're literally at the point where u think that throwing a bitch fit on tftv and then wondering why everyone thinks you're a retard is a good idea. nobody is downfragging you because you're right. we're downfragging you because you've done nothing but talk shit and not address any arguments made against your position.
stop posting you mong.
I know why people don't like why I'm posting. And I've addressed arguments made against me also. People just dismiss things they don't like by downfragging them, or calling things they don't agree with "talking shit", or "throwing a bitch fit".
Sorry if I upset you.
I think its fair to say I've provided quite a lot of arguments for the format in the other thread, what you quoted was a tldr I provided to stop people from missing the point of my other arguments. I let it go a little bit because it felt both like running in circles and talking to a brick wall at the same time in the other thread, I'll probably tell people why they're wrong there when I can be bothered.
Also, I'm not using ad hominem, because I'm insulting people as well as providing an argument, not instead of.[/quote]
again, you still have no argument[/quote]
Your argument is that I have provided no arguments for 7s.
My argument is that I have, and I have provided evidence of that.
Your argument remains the same.
[quote=knsume]what the fuck are we entitled to? the least shitty end of the shitty stick valve has given the competitive community? at this point i'm pretty sure you got all your debating skills from the youtube comments section.[/quote]
People are entitled in thinking that someone providing his own money to cater to his own interests also has to cater to their interests.
[quote=knsume]you're literally at the point where u think that throwing a bitch fit on tftv and then wondering why everyone thinks you're a retard is a good idea. nobody is downfragging you because you're right. we're downfragging you because you've done nothing but talk shit and not address any arguments made against your position.
stop posting you mong.[/quote]
I know why people don't like why I'm posting. And I've addressed arguments made against me also. People just dismiss things they don't like by downfragging them, or calling things they don't agree with "talking shit", or "throwing a bitch fit".
Sorry if I upset you.
A: "You have no argument."
B: "NO!!!! YOU HAVE NO ARGUMENT"
A: "I DO have an argument!"
B: "Where's your argument?"
A: "Fuck you, where's your argument?"
B: "Oh yeah, I already showed you my argument."
A: "No you DID NOT"
B: "Yes I DID!"
Riveting.
Start rhyming at least, for the love of god.
B: "NO!!!! YOU HAVE NO ARGUMENT"
A: "I DO have an argument!"
B: "Where's your argument?"
A: "Fuck you, where's your argument?"
B: "Oh yeah, I already showed you my argument."
A: "No you DID NOT"
B: "Yes I DID!"
Riveting.
Start rhyming at least, for the love of god.
ScrambledCornpop16Most people criticising 7s don't have half a mind or are uninformed.Scrambled...
Nobody with half a mind thinks Sigafoo's 7v7 is a threat to 6s. It won't take a year before this format once again fades into irrelevancy.
upfrag me cus im right
I think you missed the point of "downfrag me cus im right". Basically it implied that the vast majority of this board just circlejerks their opinions and can't deal with things that contradict their opinions. Basically people too unintelligent to form a proper counter argument or accept that people have different opinions to their own. To be fair at the very least you attempted to respond to what I said, even if it was just completely baseless yet bold claims.
anyone with half a brain thinks sigafoo's 7v7 is retarded even if it's not a "threat" (wtf does that even mean lmao)
Nobody with half a mind thinks Sigafoo's 7v7 is a threat to 6s. It won't take a year before this format once again fades into irrelevancy.
upfrag me cus im right[/quote]
Most people criticising 7s don't have half a mind or are uninformed.
I think you missed the point of "downfrag me cus im right". Basically it implied that the vast majority of this board just circlejerks their opinions and can't deal with things that contradict their opinions. Basically people too unintelligent to form a proper counter argument or accept that people have different opinions to their own. To be fair at the very least you attempted to respond to what I said, even if it was just completely baseless yet bold claims.[/quote]
anyone with half a brain thinks sigafoo's 7v7 is retarded even if it's not a "threat" (wtf does that even mean lmao)
A: "No."
B: "You have no argument"
A: "It's bad."
B: "You still have no argument"
C: "B you have no argument, how can you accuse A of not having an argument, you also use logical fallacies"
B: "It's right here, and I don't"
C: "No you don't have an argument"
FTFY
B: "You have no argument"
A: "It's bad."
B: "You still have no argument"
C: "B you have no argument, how can you accuse A of not having an argument, you also use logical fallacies"
B: "It's right here, and I don't"
C: "No you don't have an argument"
FTFY
Spriteanyone with half a brain thinks sigafoo's 7v7 is retarded even if it's not a "threat" (wtf does that even mean lmao)
A lot of people have been complaining that 7s will take player numbers from 6s. Please inform yourself before sharing your opinion.
anyone with half a brain thinks sigafoo's 7v7 is retarded even if it's not a "threat" (wtf does that even mean lmao)[/quote]
A lot of people have been complaining that 7s will take player numbers from 6s. Please inform yourself before sharing your opinion.
ScrambledA: "No."
B: "You have no argument"
A: "It's bad."
B: "You still have no argument"
C: "B you have no argument, how can you accuse A of not having an argument, you also use logical fallacies"
B: "It's right here, and I don't"
C: "No you don't have an argument"
B: "You have no argument"
A: "It's bad."
B: "You still have no argument"
C: "B you have no argument, how can you accuse A of not having an argument, you also use logical fallacies"
B: "It's right here, and I don't"
C: "No you don't have an argument"[/quote]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
i never understand why being representative of pubs is in any way shape or form a good thing
pubs are like the least competitive thing of all time (how many people actually play the objective until the timer's about to run out) and have some of the worst maps of all time (dustbowl?? 2fort??) along with terrible team composition (multiple spies/snipers/engineers)
how would this be a pro for anything that's attempting to be a competitive format lol
any competitive format will be, and should be, infinitely closer to 6's (and hl) than it will be to pubs
pubs are like the least competitive thing of all time (how many people actually play the objective until the timer's about to run out) and have some of the worst maps of all time (dustbowl?? 2fort??) along with terrible team composition (multiple spies/snipers/engineers)
how would this be a pro for anything that's attempting to be a competitive format lol
any competitive format will be, and should be, infinitely closer to 6's (and hl) than it will be to pubs
It really doesn't matter whether 7s is a great gamemode or garbage that has to be thrown out.
There's no reason to treat someone so terribly. It's a video game. Grow up.
There's no reason to treat someone so terribly. It's a video game. Grow up.
springrollsi never understand why being representative of pubs is in any way shape or form a good thing
pubs are like the least competitive thing of all time (how many people actually play the objective until the timer's about to run out) and have some of the worst maps of all time (dustbowl?? 2fort??) along with terrible team composition (multiple spies/snipers/engineers)
how would this be a pro for anything that's attempting to be a competitive format lol
any competitive format will be, and should be, infinitely closer to 6's (and hl) than it will be to pubs
There are two maps that are both very popular for both public and competitive play (highlander), badwater and upward. This format works for both of them.
Warning this is my opinion: You can make the whole "lol 5 snipers" joke or whatever. The fact of the matter is that you can play payload maps in very much the same way as you would in a pub in highlander for the most part. Maybe after learning a few better positions from better players or whatever.
I would say that the 7s playstyle is more representative of highlander than it is pubs, and I feel that the flexibility of the classes makes it more appealing for casual play than highlander.
pubs are like the least competitive thing of all time (how many people actually play the objective until the timer's about to run out) and have some of the worst maps of all time (dustbowl?? 2fort??) along with terrible team composition (multiple spies/snipers/engineers)
how would this be a pro for anything that's attempting to be a competitive format lol
any competitive format will be, and should be, infinitely closer to 6's (and hl) than it will be to pubs[/quote]
There are two maps that are both very popular for both public and competitive play (highlander), badwater and upward. This format works for both of them.
Warning this is my opinion: You can make the whole "lol 5 snipers" joke or whatever. The fact of the matter is that you can play payload maps in very much the same way as you would in a pub in highlander for the most part. Maybe after learning a few better positions from better players or whatever.
I would say that the 7s playstyle is more representative of highlander than it is pubs, and I feel that the flexibility of the classes makes it more appealing for casual play than highlander.
unfScrambledA: "No."
B: "You have no argument"
A: "It's bad."
B: "You still have no argument"
C: "B you have no argument, how can you accuse A of not having an argument, you also use logical fallacies"
B: "It's right here, and I don't"
C: "No you don't have an argument"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
Care to explain how this applies to the situation? Unless you're just annoyed at me portraying myself as correct in an argument.
B: "You have no argument"
A: "It's bad."
B: "You still have no argument"
C: "B you have no argument, how can you accuse A of not having an argument, you also use logical fallacies"
B: "It's right here, and I don't"
C: "No you don't have an argument"[/quote]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect[/quote]
Care to explain how this applies to the situation? Unless you're just annoyed at me portraying myself as correct in an argument.
Dude Scrambled can you just repost all your arguments here i'm sure no one cares enough to look through pages and pages of comments for your arguments