see this is a perfectly valid comment except for the fact that its coming from you SOMEONE WHO REGULARLY ADDS TO PUGS LESS THAN THIRTY MINUTES BEFORE SCRIMS (meaning you have to either be late to scrims or get subbed out of the pug which often ruins it for everyone else)

also on the topic of scheduling scrims, what ever happened to the invite scrim whatsapp group? iirc cookie made it but i guess isn't maintaining it since he's not playing anymore
im not a scheduler but i feel like it would make things a lot easier if someone made something like that again this season (doesn't necessarily have to be a whatsapp group could just be discord or smt)

never change mason

hedge is actually one of the earliest people to join Mumble / be there for scrims. Sure he might not be on time every night but his track record is pretty good.

yo so many people add up to pugs and then show up late. and their leaders tell me "oh hes in a pug" like bruh leave then.

ya bear that hapened literally once probably in the whole time I've played pugs so it's really pretty shitty of you to say I do it all the time.. like that's just not the truth at all

quit yelling at hedge he's a sensitive nice boy

y r u in open

Help the young. For Russia.

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If you hate pre-arranging scrims just don't do it and simply instruct any leader that tries to arrange things with you to meet you in discord lol. A spark can start a prairie fire :D Otherwise pre-arranging scrims will just continue to be the awful norm.

Tftv's discord has an esea invite channel which has gone largely unused but could be used

We're getting close...

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because IM doesnt exist anymore

gotta x the 2+ players getting cut from the same team one and the "why no power rankings" one

damn...

surprised nerd essay hasn't happened yet. the best I can find is like 2 maybe 3 paragraph posts tops. someone needs to due a true nerd essay ffs and not because I asked for one.

I don't think you understand what it's like for there to literally be 6-8 teams worth scrimming im sorry Marxist it's the way it's gotta be.

paging mustardoverlord

This is a real question -

Is this something that exists in other eSports? Players ALWAYS being late for scrims and matches?

is tf2 open division an esport
maybe invite is
but is open an esport

If those 6-8 teams use the discord it's nbd - we still used the IRC for Main and there weren't really that many teams in that division - IM teams also used the IRC exclusively for some time. It's no problem so long as people use it. The added benefit being that you can scrim crappier teams if the choice teams aren't around instead of waiting forever or not playing. That's the real "scene" benefit because you can give that mediocre team a chance to play somebody who has 1/2 a clue and maybe they'll end up getting one too. It's only scary because a huge portion of the community now never used IRC and are scared of switching over to the much superior system - in fact - that's why it changed to begin with because the generation that came up from UGC was young enough that they'd never used IRC and then it spread over the whole game as they chose not to figure out how to get IRC working. Well, that and having to mask your IP in irc to not get constantly ddosed.

This is so true

mumble in 2017 cmonBruh

what do you define the term, "e-sport" as

I highly doubt Open to IM cs:go scrims go smoothly ever. Medium-level LoL, dota, etc are probably all the same.

I'm assuming people at the top under contract/ in a gamer house are forced to follow their scrim schedule. That's probably the only way it goes somewhat smoothly

they actually go much smoother than tf2's

doesnt esea have an automated scrim finder for csgo and people scrim at all hours pretty much

Really TF2 used to be fine on average, its just gotten way worse the past 5 or 6 seasons.

Before you would have teams literally telling other teams to fuck off after 10 min because they found another game if shit had not started, so this forced people to actually be on time for shit otherwise they would A. Never get scrims or B. get cut from the team because they can't commit to shit.

Like unless you are a invite team you have ZERO reason to schedule shit a week before hand, there is like 4 team in all of open that actually can even argue against that and those 4 teams are the ones that are scrimming the invite teams. Outside of that there is no reason, and saying "but we only want to scrim teams at our level or better otherwise its just bad" is a terrible excuse because it fucks the other teams that are trying to get better out of that experience and unless you play a literal perfect game, or are a top 8 team scrimming a bottom 8 team and just out DMing them then you can ALWAYS work on something.

I say for the next 2 weeks people only get scrims from discord. Cancel anything you have going forward and fix this fucking problem that should not be a problem.

I will spend next week getting scrims from Discord only when I have 6 in Mumble. I encourage all other Open teams / leaders to do the same. Let's try and make things work.

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Nobody is ever late to adult only theaters, just ban children and petition your political representative to sponsor legislation that would mandate online identity to ban children. I foresee no possible consequences.

That's not a real nerd essay, it only has two body paragraphs