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Planning to give up in life
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Hey guys, average player of TF2. Planning to give up in life so any advice before I give up? I been suffering depression for several years now and nothing (therapy, self-regulation, Medicine) has worked. Please help me!

Hey guys, average player of TF2. Planning to give up in life so any advice before I give up? I been suffering depression for several years now and nothing (therapy, self-regulation, Medicine) has worked. Please help me!
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dude dont kill yourself

dude dont kill yourself
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uh

uh
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#4
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try group therapy! don’t kill yourself man!

try group therapy! don’t kill yourself man!
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It's not worth it. I know it sound "clicheish", but trust me, its not worth it. Don't kill yourself man...

It's not worth it. I know it sound "clicheish", but trust me, its not worth it. Don't kill yourself man...
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how can u ppl know death isnt worth it if u never died before

on the other hand, dieing probably sucks and suicide is pretty pathetic. u should not kys

how can u ppl know death isnt worth it if u never died before

on the other hand, dieing probably sucks and suicide is pretty pathetic. u should not kys
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There are no magical words that will magically cure you of anything that is constantly attacking all of the doubts you have of life in your mind. It sucks that this is how it works, but no matter how grave it feels it does get better. You've most likely heard these words echo a million times through all the solutions you've attempted to do, but there is a reason this is a common thing people say. It's a very true statement. The fact that you posted on TFTV asking for any advice proves you still have some drive in you that you still want to hold onto some sort of hope in life. Cling onto that piece of hope and make it bigger than you ever could have imagined.

Back in the years of 2013-2015 I was hit by a constant barrage of what I can only call some sort of anxiety attack/panic attacks. I've never seen a professional so I never figured out what the actual feelings were, but I can tell you I was severely upset with my life. I legitimately almost never left my house during those two years. I stayed inside and played TF2 all day. People most likely remember those days of me where I constantly lashed out on others but still acted overly sensitive. I still obviously have my moments, but I still drastically improved as a person in 2016 and I still work to improve my character now. I went from legitimately being too afraid to leave my own room, to nearly wanting to spend all the time I can with my friends and my girlfriend.

That paragraph may seem pretty irrelevant, but I want you to know I knew exactly how you feel. Millions of people know how you feel, and many have made permanent decisions because of that feeling. That tiny bit of hope I mentioned earlier, that was the same hope I have. Work as hard as you can. As far as actual advice goes, work out some. I'm obviously still a tiny person but the little bit of working out I did made such a good impact on my life (I went from 90 pounds to 130 from 2015 to 2016). The most important part were my friends. I didn't hang with them at all, I almost avoided all confrontation with anyone physically. Getting out of my comfort zone was a priority for me, so I tried my best socializing anyway I can. I started with the two friends I still had from grade school. They still remembered me. They invited me to parties and I went and made even more friends. If you like staying up late, sleep earlier. People really undervalue what staying up late does as far as impacting your emotion does. I don't know if you stay up late, but I guarantee if you do that sleeping early will help make some improvements.

Those three things are stuff I worked on heavily. I still have those little moments of doubt in my mind, but the more I work towards making myself better, the less it echos in my mind. It's so easy to forget how I use to be. Please never forget it does get better. Nothing will improve when you give up.

Always cling onto hope.

There are no magical words that will magically cure you of anything that is constantly attacking all of the doubts you have of life in your mind. It sucks that this is how it works, but no matter how grave it feels it does get better. You've most likely heard these words echo a million times through all the solutions you've attempted to do, but there is a reason this is a common thing people say. It's a very true statement. The fact that you posted on TFTV asking for any advice proves you still have some drive in you that you still want to hold onto some sort of hope in life. Cling onto that piece of hope and make it bigger than you ever could have imagined.

Back in the years of 2013-2015 I was hit by a constant barrage of what I can only call some sort of anxiety attack/panic attacks. I've never seen a professional so I never figured out what the actual feelings were, but I can tell you I was severely upset with my life. I legitimately almost never left my house during those two years. I stayed inside and played TF2 all day. People most likely remember those days of me where I constantly lashed out on others but still acted overly sensitive. I still obviously have my moments, but I still drastically improved as a person in 2016 and I still work to improve my character now. I went from legitimately being too afraid to leave my own room, to nearly wanting to spend all the time I can with my friends and my girlfriend.

That paragraph may seem pretty irrelevant, but I want you to know I knew exactly how you feel. Millions of people know how you feel, and many have made permanent decisions because of that feeling. That tiny bit of hope I mentioned earlier, that was the same hope I have. Work as hard as you can. As far as actual advice goes, work out some. I'm obviously still a tiny person but the little bit of working out I did made such a good impact on my life (I went from 90 pounds to 130 from 2015 to 2016). The most important part were my friends. I didn't hang with them at all, I almost avoided all confrontation with anyone physically. Getting out of my comfort zone was a priority for me, so I tried my best socializing anyway I can. I started with the two friends I still had from grade school. They still remembered me. They invited me to parties and I went and made even more friends. If you like staying up late, sleep earlier. People really undervalue what staying up late does as far as impacting your emotion does. I don't know if you stay up late, but I guarantee if you do that sleeping early will help make some improvements.

Those three things are stuff I worked on heavily. I still have those little moments of doubt in my mind, but the more I work towards making myself better, the less it echos in my mind. It's so easy to forget how I use to be. Please never forget it does get better. Nothing will improve when you give up.

Always cling onto hope.
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cringe ^

cringe ^
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My friend did that.
Seeing his poor parents and sister crushed at his funeral was one of the most awful things I've ever witnessed.

Don't do it man. Add me if you're sincere and ever fancy a chat, if it helps.

My friend did that.
Seeing his poor parents and sister crushed at his funeral was one of the most awful things I've ever witnessed.

Don't do it man. Add me if you're sincere and ever fancy a chat, if it helps.
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#10
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KEVCHEVcringe ^

what is wrong with u

[quote=KEVCHEV]cringe ^[/quote]
what is wrong with u
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#11
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truxKEVCHEVcringe ^what is wrong with u

he's a master forum troll who makes really funny epic shitposts!

[quote=trux][quote=KEVCHEV]cringe ^[/quote]
what is wrong with u[/quote]
he's a master forum troll who makes really funny epic shitposts!
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I know this probably sounds stupid and/or obvious but one of the easiest and most effective way to combat depression is to literally go outside and exercise. Just get up and go for a walk, or do push-ups or go for a run or something. Like, even if you're not very good at it, you can try to run as far as you can and make a game out of it trying to go further and further each day (same idea applies to push-ups or whatever else as well)

Idk your situation but I think pretty much anyone can benefit from more regular exercise, if only by feeling a little bit better about yourself. I personally didn't exercise hardly at all but I made a point to go for a run every day regardless of how I'm feeling, and even though I kinda sucked at it at first (would have to stop and catch my breath all the time) as I kept doing it I got a lot better and it felt good to keep pushing myself to go further and further. It made it easier to fall asleep at night cause I would be physically exhausted and too tired to stay up all night (fuck insomnia)

Also meditation is another good way to deal with depression, helps to recognize your negative thoughts as just thoughts instead of believing them to be some objective truth.

I know this probably sounds stupid and/or obvious but one of the easiest and most effective way to combat depression is to literally go outside and exercise. Just get up and go for a walk, or do push-ups or go for a run or something. Like, even if you're not very good at it, you can try to run as far as you can and make a game out of it trying to go further and further each day (same idea applies to push-ups or whatever else as well)

Idk your situation but I think pretty much anyone can benefit from more regular exercise, if only by feeling a little bit better about yourself. I personally didn't exercise hardly at all but I made a point to go for a run every day regardless of how I'm feeling, and even though I kinda sucked at it at first (would have to stop and catch my breath all the time) as I kept doing it I got a lot better and it felt good to keep pushing myself to go further and further. It made it easier to fall asleep at night cause I would be physically exhausted and too tired to stay up all night (fuck insomnia)

Also meditation is another good way to deal with depression, helps to recognize your negative thoughts as just thoughts instead of believing them to be some objective truth.
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nazaratruxKEVCHEVcringe ^what is wrong with uhe's an master forum troll who makes really funny epic shitposts!

It Is Indeed Quite Funny To Mock Someones Life Struggles Hehe

ps dont kill urself it has a higher risk of failure then u think and the recovery is very unfun for u and those around u

[quote=nazara][quote=trux][quote=KEVCHEV]cringe ^[/quote]
what is wrong with u[/quote]
he's an master forum troll who makes really funny epic shitposts![/quote]
It Is Indeed Quite Funny To Mock Someones Life Struggles Hehe

ps dont kill urself it has a higher risk of failure then u think and the recovery is very unfun for u and those around u
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KEVCHEVcringe ^

you're really stupid and not funny

[quote=KEVCHEV]cringe ^[/quote]


you're really stupid and not funny
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try lsd

try lsd
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THEBILLDOZERtry lsd

This is fucking terrible advice for someone who is depressed

[quote=THEBILLDOZER]try lsd[/quote]

This is fucking terrible advice for someone who is depressed
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TERRYCREWSTHEBILLDOZERtry lsd
This is fucking terrible advice for someone who is depressed

Have you ever done psychedelics in the middle of a depressive period of your life?
I have, it works. Still takes effort to overcome your problems, but it massively helps you find and commit to new goals that give your life meaning. It's not coke/ meth.

[quote=TERRYCREWS][quote=THEBILLDOZER]try lsd[/quote]

This is fucking terrible advice for someone who is depressed[/quote]
Have you ever done psychedelics in the middle of a depressive period of your life?
I have, it works. Still takes effort to overcome your problems, but it massively helps you find and commit to new goals that give your life meaning. It's not coke/ meth.
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SpyromancerTERRYCREWSTHEBILLDOZERtry lsd
This is fucking terrible advice for someone who is depressed
Have you ever done psychedelics in the middle of a depressive period of your life?
I have, it works. Still takes effort to overcome your problems, but it massively helps you find and commit to new goals that give your life meaning. It's not coke/ meth.

I understand that some people quote psychedelics to be the cure to some mental disease but you have absolutely no idea how psychedelics will affect him. With my relatively limited experience with salvia, I can say that psychedelics can be absolutely magical but not everyone responds to them well and especially if you have preexisting mental conditions like depression you probably shouldn't experiment with that until after you have fixed your problems.

As for my advice, I would say that sitting yourself down and asking why you exactly you feel depressed and work on that one thing. I found this helped when I was in a particularly bad slump. I would also see if maybe things like TF2 are making things worse instead of helping. I know I used to use TF2 as an escape instead of facing my problems.

I know I can't really help you because I do not know what your position is like but maybe someone putting the care into writing a paragraph can make you feel that you are not worthless like I used to think I was.

[quote=Spyromancer][quote=TERRYCREWS][quote=THEBILLDOZER]try lsd[/quote]

This is fucking terrible advice for someone who is depressed[/quote]
Have you ever done psychedelics in the middle of a depressive period of your life?
I have, it works. Still takes effort to overcome your problems, but it massively helps you find and commit to new goals that give your life meaning. It's not coke/ meth.[/quote]

I understand that some people quote psychedelics to be the cure to some mental disease but you have absolutely no idea how psychedelics will affect him. With my relatively limited experience with salvia, I can say that psychedelics can be absolutely magical but not everyone responds to them well and especially if you have preexisting mental conditions like depression you probably shouldn't experiment with that until after you have fixed your problems.


As for my advice, I would say that sitting yourself down and asking why you exactly you feel depressed and work on that one thing. I found this helped when I was in a particularly bad slump. I would also see if maybe things like TF2 are making things worse instead of helping. I know I used to use TF2 as an escape instead of facing my problems.

I know I can't really help you because I do not know what your position is like but maybe someone putting the care into writing a paragraph can make you feel that you are not worthless like I used to think I was.
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I know how you feel. I used to get up everyday and wonder why the fuck I even bother. It wasn't until recently I actually visited a therapist and a psychiatrist for a diagnosis.

Firstly, you gotta make it clear with your psychiatrist what's going on for them to properly diagnose you. Don't bullshit them because the only one you're hurting then is yourself. If you have major depression and you're only taking a small dosage, that's a problem that needs to be addressed. I did this at first because I was scared to tell a psychiatrist about all my problems. Fortunately, they're there to help you, not judge.

Secondly, do things. I know it sounds dumb. but if you just sit around doing nothing then it only worsens. Regardless of how much you might loathe the idea of exercising/going outside, but it is essential to maintain good mental health. There's a reason those confined inside go insane. We, as people, need sunlight and nature and all that cheesy shit. It helps, trust me.

Suicide isn't the answer. It doesn't just hurt you, but rather the people in your life who love you. If you need someone to call, the hotline (1-800-273-8255) is 24/7. If you want, you can always add me to talk, too.

I know how you feel. I used to get up everyday and wonder why the fuck I even bother. It wasn't until recently I actually visited a therapist and a psychiatrist for a diagnosis.

Firstly, you gotta make it clear with your psychiatrist what's going on for them to properly diagnose you. Don't bullshit them because the only one you're hurting then is yourself. If you have major depression and you're only taking a small dosage, that's a problem that needs to be addressed. I did this at first because I was scared to tell a psychiatrist about [i]all[/i] my problems. Fortunately, they're there to help you, not judge.

Secondly, do things. I know it sounds dumb. but if you just sit around doing nothing then it only worsens. Regardless of how much you might loathe the idea of exercising/going outside, but it is essential to maintain good mental health. There's a reason those confined inside go insane. We, as people, need sunlight and nature and all that cheesy shit. It helps, trust me.

Suicide isn't the answer. It doesn't just hurt you, but rather the people in your life who love you. If you need someone to call, the hotline (1-800-273-8255) is 24/7. If you want, you can always add me to talk, too.
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Exercise. Nofap. Cold Showers.

Exercise. Nofap. Cold Showers.
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TERRYCREWSTHEBILLDOZERtry lsd
This is fucking terrible advice for someone who is depressed

offtopic(ish) but the idea is to microdose and it's getting some traction in the medical community

[quote=TERRYCREWS][quote=THEBILLDOZER]try lsd[/quote]

This is fucking terrible advice for someone who is depressed[/quote]
offtopic(ish) but the idea is to microdose and it's getting some traction in the medical community
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My best friend killed himself in april. It's very jarring to see a 50 year old man cry like a bitch at his son's funeral. Killing yourself will undoubtedly make someone in your life more depressed than you are right now. You're not supposed to guilt people when they are suicidal, but it's honestly very important to consider what it would be like to let everyone in your life know that they didn't do enough for you to keep living.

My best friend killed himself in april. It's very jarring to see a 50 year old man cry like a bitch at his son's funeral. Killing yourself will undoubtedly make someone in your life more depressed than you are right now. You're not supposed to guilt people when they are suicidal, but it's honestly very important to consider what it would be like to let everyone in your life know that they didn't do enough for you to keep living.
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TholeMy best friend killed himself in april. It's very jarring to see a 50 year old man cry like a bitch at his son's funeral. Killing yourself will undoubtedly make someone in your life more depressed than you are right now. You're not supposed to guilt people when they are suicidal, but it's honestly very important to consider what it would be like to let everyone in your life know that they didn't do enough for you to keep living.

It's certainly not 'bitch'-like to cry when your son dies.

I think it's a pretty restrained reaction tbh.

[quote=Thole]My best friend killed himself in april. It's very jarring to see a 50 year old man cry like a bitch at his son's funeral. Killing yourself will undoubtedly make someone in your life more depressed than you are right now. You're not supposed to guilt people when they are suicidal, but it's honestly very important to consider what it would be like to let everyone in your life know that they didn't do enough for you to keep living.[/quote]

It's certainly not 'bitch'-like to cry when your son dies.

I think it's a pretty restrained reaction tbh.
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StylaxTholeMy best friend killed himself in april. It's very jarring to see a 50 year old man cry like a bitch at his son's funeral. Killing yourself will undoubtedly make someone in your life more depressed than you are right now. You're not supposed to guilt people when they are suicidal, but it's honestly very important to consider what it would be like to let everyone in your life know that they didn't do enough for you to keep living.
It's certainly not 'bitch'-like to cry when your son dies.

I think it's a pretty restrained reaction tbh.

to add something, outliving your child is one of the saddest experiences a person can feel

[quote=Stylax][quote=Thole]My best friend killed himself in april. It's very jarring to see a 50 year old man cry like a bitch at his son's funeral. Killing yourself will undoubtedly make someone in your life more depressed than you are right now. You're not supposed to guilt people when they are suicidal, but it's honestly very important to consider what it would be like to let everyone in your life know that they didn't do enough for you to keep living.[/quote]

It's certainly not 'bitch'-like to cry when your son dies.

I think it's a pretty restrained reaction tbh.[/quote]
to add something, outliving your child is one of the saddest experiences a person can feel
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KEVCHEVcringe ^

retard^

[quote=KEVCHEV]cringe ^[/quote]
retard^
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can a mod just nuke the shitposts in this thread if the op is actually seriously and needs someone to talk to

like holy shit, memes are one thing but telling someone who went out of their way to post about how they want to end it all to do drugs and kill themselves is on a whole different plain of jackassery

can a mod just nuke the shitposts in this thread if the op is actually seriously and needs someone to talk to

like holy shit, memes are one thing but telling someone who went out of their way to post about how they want to end it all to do drugs and kill themselves is on a whole different plain of jackassery
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So I'm not a stoner or anything but weed seriously helps a lot of people with depression and issues with mood. Not sure if you've tried it but it might be a start if you're looking for something that might help. This isn't just anecdotal either, there are mountains of research papers categorically showing how cannabis can help.

Other than that I'm not sure what to suggest. One way to look at it might be that if you're at the point of wanting to kill yourself, you may as well "kill" your old life now and move somewhere new, get new friends, a new job and try radically different things such as travelling, new hobbies etc. You might find some joy in that that shows you that life is worth living. And not that I would encourage it, but if all that fails you can always kill yourself after giving it one last try.

So I'm not a stoner or anything but weed seriously helps a lot of people with depression and issues with mood. Not sure if you've tried it but it might be a start if you're looking for something that might help. This isn't just anecdotal either, there are mountains of research papers categorically showing how cannabis can help.

Other than that I'm not sure what to suggest. One way to look at it might be that if you're at the point of wanting to kill yourself, you may as well "kill" your old life now and move somewhere new, get new friends, a new job and try radically different things such as travelling, new hobbies etc. You might find some joy in that that shows you that life is worth living. And not that I would encourage it, but if all that fails you can always kill yourself after giving it one last try.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL2ZwXj1tXM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL2ZwXj1tXM
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A few tips from an old man who has had a lot of friends suffer with anxiety/depression - and the occasional bout of the same himself

1. Make your own rules. A lot of folks I've encountered who suffered from depression had some success with thinking in this way. Maybe it will work for you. As young folks, we're faced with a huge amount of decisions to make and a lot of pressures to do certain things. You do you. If you're happy doing x rather than y, then so be it. If that means you take a job at village pantry and play video games all night instead of going to college then so be it there's nothing wrong with that.

2. If you're with a therapist or psychiatrist and it just isn't working for you (give it some time obviously) then switch doctors. A lot of people end up in really messed up situations because they worry it's some kind of an insult to ghost a physician, but again, you have to do what is best for you. In time maybe you'll find somebody who can help - that's literally the worst case scenario (which is a pretty good one, it just may require jumping through a lot of doctors). I had a friend in college who has been through 16 different therapists before she finally found the one that worked (anxiety). If money is an issue there are PLENTY of psychiatrists who will do work pro-bono or at greatly reduced cost, or at least with greatly deferred billing. Sometimes they'll even recommend other therapists/physicians/psychiatrists who do the same.

3. Change your environment - if that means going for a hike or wandering the streets - try to change your scenery every now and again. I'm aware that that's often difficult to do, but it can be a pleasant diversion. Even staying over at a buddy's house for a few days would probably be fun. Staying sedentary and stewing in how awful you feel isn't going to help.

A few tips from an old man who has had a lot of friends suffer with anxiety/depression - and the occasional bout of the same himself

1. Make your own rules. A lot of folks I've encountered who suffered from depression had some success with thinking in this way. Maybe it will work for you. As young folks, we're faced with a huge amount of decisions to make and a lot of pressures to do certain things. You do you. If you're happy doing x rather than y, then so be it. If that means you take a job at village pantry and play video games all night instead of going to college then so be it there's nothing wrong with that.

2. If you're with a therapist or psychiatrist and it just isn't working for you (give it some time obviously) then switch doctors. A lot of people end up in really messed up situations because they worry it's some kind of an insult to ghost a physician, but again, you have to do what is best for you. In time maybe you'll find somebody who can help - that's literally the worst case scenario (which is a pretty good one, it just may require jumping through a lot of doctors). I had a friend in college who has been through 16 different therapists before she finally found the one that worked (anxiety). If money is an issue there are PLENTY of psychiatrists who will do work pro-bono or at greatly reduced cost, or at least with greatly deferred billing. Sometimes they'll even recommend other therapists/physicians/psychiatrists who do the same.

3. Change your environment - if that means going for a hike or wandering the streets - try to change your scenery every now and again. I'm aware that that's often difficult to do, but it can be a pleasant diversion. Even staying over at a buddy's house for a few days would probably be fun. Staying sedentary and stewing in how awful you feel isn't going to help.
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https://steamcommunity.com/id/bluegreenorangered
Feel free to add me to talk. I'm not going to pretend to know what you're going through, but I've struggled with anxiety in the past, and at the very least I can be a friendly voice to talk to. I'm sure there are many other people that are also willing to help. You're not alone, and it's ok to seek help, professional or not

https://steamcommunity.com/id/bluegreenorangered
Feel free to add me to talk. I'm not going to pretend to know what you're going through, but I've struggled with anxiety in the past, and at the very least I can be a friendly voice to talk to. I'm sure there are many other people that are also willing to help. You're not alone, and it's ok to seek help, professional or not
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