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xoOk, I just finished talking to Nicell and brought up a couple of points to him, a lot that were ignored because there's nothing they can do, but I told him that these things would be foreseeable in the future.
One point was the captains and how there aren't enough. I was told that there are plenty of captains, and that pugs would not die. I gave a literal example that happened TODAY where 36+ players were added for a solid half hour and no singular captain was added up, and we had to wait for another pug to end for those captains to add up as one. I then proposed a solution to this by either auto-picking a captain after a certain amount of players added up, or asking for volunteers, and was then told to "not worry about it".
I then brought up the point about the skill-level of captains. Let me remind you that there are a lot of specific captains chosen to be captains, and the number of pug wins do not matter at the moment. Go ahead and look at the stats of the pug overview page, it's incredibly inconsistent on who and who doesn't have captain, and Nicell refused to explain this. I was told that a ton of people have captain and that people still complain about bad picks, and responded that he should just do an ultimatum and just make every high-skill level player or leader a captain. He disagreed, saying it was a bad idea, and I responded saying that if he thought it was a bad idea, to just do it to prove a point to these players, since all Platinum players have been asking this for a while. If he's wrong, a win for the service. If he's right, then he proves a point, and the playerbase will try to figure out another solution. He disagreed and told me to move on.
I brought up other issues that weren't a big deal like the site UI, and how the chat isn't really well properly placed, as it's a pop-up window that a lot of people don't even read, etc, but those aren't major things. (The site is in beta, but it's still potential to be an issue)
He disagreed with every possible issue I brought up EXCEPT for EU players being an issue, saying that it will be "looked at". That's it, that's all, and the conversation was ended right around there. Let me point out, though, that my rant towards nicell did include a couple of curse-words like "fucking", and was told that it "accusatory" because of that.
im sure he has better things to do than justify every single one of his design choices to every random nobody who cares enough to bitch
[quote=xo]Ok, I just finished talking to Nicell and brought up a couple of points to him, a lot that were ignored because there's nothing they can do, but I told him that these things would be foreseeable in the future.
One point was the captains and how there aren't enough. I was told that there are plenty of captains, and that pugs would not die. I gave a literal example that happened TODAY where 36+ players were added for a solid half hour and no singular captain was added up, and we had to wait for another pug to end for those captains to add up as one. I then proposed a solution to this by either auto-picking a captain after a certain amount of players added up, or asking for volunteers, and was then told to "not worry about it".
I then brought up the point about the skill-level of captains. Let me remind you that there are a lot of specific captains chosen to be captains, and the number of pug wins do not matter at the moment. Go ahead and look at the stats of the pug overview page, it's incredibly inconsistent on who and who doesn't have captain, and Nicell refused to explain this. I was told that a ton of people have captain and that people still complain about bad picks, and responded that he should just do an ultimatum and just make every high-skill level player or leader a captain. He disagreed, saying it was a bad idea, and I responded saying that if he thought it was a bad idea, to just do it to prove a point to these players, since all Platinum players have been asking this for a while. If he's wrong, a win for the service. If he's right, then he proves a point, and the playerbase will try to figure out another solution. He disagreed and told me to move on.
I brought up other issues that weren't a big deal like the site UI, and how the chat isn't really well properly placed, as it's a pop-up window that a lot of people don't even read, etc, but those aren't major things. (The site is in beta, but it's still potential to be an issue)
He disagreed with every possible issue I brought up EXCEPT for EU players being an issue, saying that it will be "looked at". That's it, that's all, and the conversation was ended right around there. Let me point out, though, that my rant towards nicell did include a couple of curse-words like "fucking", and was told that it "accusatory" because of that.[/quote]
im sure he has better things to do than justify every single one of his design choices to every random nobody who cares enough to bitch
One point was the captains and how there aren't enough. I was told that there are plenty of captains, and that pugs would not die. I gave a literal example that happened TODAY where 36+ players were added for a solid half hour and no singular captain was added up, and we had to wait for another pug to end for those captains to add up as one. I then proposed a solution to this by either auto-picking a captain after a certain amount of players added up, or asking for volunteers, and was then told to "not worry about it".
I then brought up the point about the skill-level of captains. Let me remind you that there are a lot of specific captains chosen to be captains, and the number of pug wins do not matter at the moment. Go ahead and look at the stats of the pug overview page, it's incredibly inconsistent on who and who doesn't have captain, and Nicell refused to explain this. I was told that a ton of people have captain and that people still complain about bad picks, and responded that he should just do an ultimatum and just make every high-skill level player or leader a captain. He disagreed, saying it was a bad idea, and I responded saying that if he thought it was a bad idea, to just do it to prove a point to these players, since all Platinum players have been asking this for a while. If he's wrong, a win for the service. If he's right, then he proves a point, and the playerbase will try to figure out another solution. He disagreed and told me to move on.
I brought up other issues that weren't a big deal like the site UI, and how the chat isn't really well properly placed, as it's a pop-up window that a lot of people don't even read, etc, but those aren't major things. (The site is in beta, but it's still potential to be an issue)
He disagreed with every possible issue I brought up EXCEPT for EU players being an issue, saying that it will be "looked at". That's it, that's all, and the conversation was ended right around there. Let me point out, though, that my rant towards nicell did include a couple of curse-words like "fucking", and was told that it "accusatory" because of that.[/quote]
im sure he has better things to do than justify every single one of his design choices to every random nobody who cares enough to bitch
tbh you sound like an asshole and your shit's all retarded.
tbh you sound like an asshole and your shit's all retarded.
sactbh you sound like an asshole and your shit's all retarded.
He certainly does have a very strong opinion on this site for someone that hasn't used it.
[quote=sac]tbh you sound like an asshole and your shit's all retarded.[/quote]
He certainly does have a very strong opinion on this site for someone that hasn't used it.
He certainly does have a very strong opinion on this site for someone that hasn't used it.
This thread in a nutshell: Downfrag every EU gamer.. FeelsBadMan
This thread in a nutshell: Downfrag every EU gamer.. FeelsBadMan
the ui interface looks really messy and clunky imo
the ui interface looks really messy and clunky imo
Posting this here as well as on the steam discussions: https://masonry.desandro.com/
You can use this to lay out the class tiles on different rows and still have them look nice, so they don't get squished horizontally like this:
Posting this here as well as on the steam discussions: https://masonry.desandro.com/
You can use this to lay out the class tiles on different rows and still have them look nice, so they don't get squished horizontally like this: [img]https://puu.sh/ygpbc/f885089c6e.png[/img]
You can use this to lay out the class tiles on different rows and still have them look nice, so they don't get squished horizontally like this: [img]https://puu.sh/ygpbc/f885089c6e.png[/img]
pazerPosting this here as well as on the steam discussions: https://masonry.desandro.com/
You can use this to lay out the class tiles on different rows and still have them look nice, so they don't get squished horizontally like this: https://puu.sh/ygpbc/f885089c6e.png
Try this and let me know what you think. Dunno if I should push this or not.
https://userstyles.org/styles/150760/hlpugs-tests
It's basically one line of css because I already built it to wrap, but just disabled it because I was unsure of it.
No longer one line. I added another snippet given by minicircle to make the chat somewhat fit on the right side. I'll continue to update this style with ideas.
[quote=pazer]Posting this here as well as on the steam discussions: https://masonry.desandro.com/
You can use this to lay out the class tiles on different rows and still have them look nice, so they don't get squished horizontally like this: [img]https://puu.sh/ygpbc/f885089c6e.png[/img][/quote]
Try this and let me know what you think. Dunno if I should push this or not.
https://userstyles.org/styles/150760/hlpugs-tests
[s]It's basically one line of css because I already built it to wrap, but just disabled it because I was unsure of it.[/s]
No longer one line. I added another snippet given by minicircle to make the chat somewhat fit on the right side. I'll continue to update this style with ideas.
You can use this to lay out the class tiles on different rows and still have them look nice, so they don't get squished horizontally like this: [img]https://puu.sh/ygpbc/f885089c6e.png[/img][/quote]
Try this and let me know what you think. Dunno if I should push this or not.
https://userstyles.org/styles/150760/hlpugs-tests
[s]It's basically one line of css because I already built it to wrap, but just disabled it because I was unsure of it.[/s]
No longer one line. I added another snippet given by minicircle to make the chat somewhat fit on the right side. I'll continue to update this style with ideas.
really like this so far, i feared hl pugs wouldn't get enough adds but seems to be going well
really like this so far, i feared hl pugs wouldn't get enough adds but seems to be going well
Seriously,we need a EU variant of this service asap.
I might even pitch in with the $,this is the first time i actually been this excited about a tf2 game matching system
Seriously,we need a EU variant of this service asap.
I might even pitch in with the $,this is the first time i actually been this excited about a tf2 game matching system
I might even pitch in with the $,this is the first time i actually been this excited about a tf2 game matching system
New map changes for the off-season.
-cp_steel
-cp_vanguard
-koth_cascade_b6
+cp_croissant_rc6
+pl_badwater_pro_b11
+koth_ramjam_rc1
Should be live now.
New map changes for the off-season.
-cp_steel
-cp_vanguard
-koth_cascade_b6
+cp_croissant_rc6
+pl_badwater_pro_b11
+koth_ramjam_rc1
Should be live now.
-cp_steel
-cp_vanguard
-koth_cascade_b6
+cp_croissant_rc6
+pl_badwater_pro_b11
+koth_ramjam_rc1
Should be live now.
replacing 1 permaban 5cp with another permaban 5cp
replacing 1 permaban 5cp with another permaban 5cp
Spureplacing 1 permaban 5cp with another permaban 5cp
croissant isn't as bad tho imo
[quote=Spu]replacing 1 permaban 5cp with another permaban 5cp[/quote]
croissant isn't as bad tho imo
croissant isn't as bad tho imo
crabfSpureplacing 1 permaban 5cp with another permaban 5cpcroissant isn't as bad tho imo
thats not the point
just like add warmtic or something or even keep cascade, 5cp other than gullywash is dumb in highlander
[quote=crabf][quote=Spu]replacing 1 permaban 5cp with another permaban 5cp[/quote]
croissant isn't as bad tho imo[/quote]
thats not the point
just like add warmtic or something or even keep cascade, 5cp other than gullywash is dumb in highlander
croissant isn't as bad tho imo[/quote]
thats not the point
just like add warmtic or something or even keep cascade, 5cp other than gullywash is dumb in highlander
Beta Update #2 (12/23/17):
- Moved the chat bar to a persistent right position (thanks minicircle!)
- Added auto-chat complete when typing “@ [person’s name]” (thanks minicircle!)
-"@admins, @support, @moderators" will now alert us on discord
- Added a favorite class options when clicking the star symbol
- Also auto-applies when you join the site or after a PUG ends
- Rules
- Moved the rules from the overview to the homepage
- Added new rules such as captain restrictions on overriding the other captain to medic
- Added a captain panel in the overview where you can see the ELO of every captain in the database
- Added ability for moderators and admins to substitute players
- Map Pool
- Removed cp_croissant_rc6 and koth_ramjam_rc1 and added in koth_warmtic_b6 and pl_vigil_b7
- Unbanned the backburner from the whitelist (bug has been fixed)
- Added website icons for Patron supporters and for Voice Actors
- Added new animations when a player is picked
- Added a setting to turn off these animations (on by default)
- Added five new voice packs: Oblivion, Hammock, Oldbot, Karl_Wheezer, and crab_f
- Added more Kegaman Voice Lines
- Fixed Kegaman VoicePack not working on FireFox
- Added a voice cue when you are picked by a captain or when the duration of the timer to pick a player is about to end
- Added a lot of emojis into the chat
- Added two SFX settings: snowing (snow is interactive with your mouse) and blizzard
- Can disable the snow in settings (on by default)
- Fixed a lot of bugs
Major Bugs/Features In Progress: Warnings System and Refresh Issue
If you support our Patreon, you will now get access to our private channel in Discord and also a symbol on the website. If you have any problems receiving your donator benefits, please contact one of the head admins.
Thanks to everyone for their continued support of this project! Happy Holidays!
[B][U]Beta Update #2 (12/23/17)[/U][/B]:
[LIST]
[*]Moved the chat bar to a [b]persistent right position[/b] (thanks minicircle!)
[*]Added auto-chat complete when typing “@ [person’s name]” (thanks minicircle!)
-"@admins, @support, @moderators" will now alert us on discord
[*]Added a favorite class options when clicking the star symbol
- Also auto-applies when you join the site or after a PUG ends
[*]Rules
- Moved the rules from the overview to the homepage
- Added new rules such as captain restrictions on overriding the other captain to medic
[*]Added a captain panel in the overview where you can see the [b]ELO of every captain in the database[/b]
[*]Added ability for moderators and admins to substitute players
[*]Map Pool
- Removed cp_croissant_rc6 and koth_ramjam_rc1 and added in [b]koth_warmtic_b6[/b] and [b]pl_vigil_b7[/b]
[*]Unbanned the backburner from the whitelist (bug has been fixed)
[*]Added website icons for Patron supporters and for Voice Actors
[*]Added new animations when a player is picked
- Added a setting to turn off these animations (on by default)
[*]Added five new voice packs: [b]Oblivion, Hammock, Oldbot, Karl_Wheezer, and crab_f[/b]
- Added more Kegaman Voice Lines
[*]Fixed Kegaman VoicePack not working on FireFox
[*]Added a voice cue [b]when you are picked by a captain[/b] or when the [b]duration of the timer to pick a player is about to end[/b]
[*]Added a lot of emojis into the chat
[*]Added two SFX settings: [b]snowing[/b] (snow is interactive with your mouse) and [b]blizzard[/b]
- Can disable the snow in settings (on by default)
[*]Fixed a lot of bugs
[/LIST]
[U]Major Bugs/Features In Progress[/U]: Warnings System and Refresh Issue
If you support our Patreon, you will now get access to our private channel in Discord and also a symbol on the website. If you have any problems receiving your donator benefits, please contact one of the head admins.
Thanks to everyone for their continued support of this project! Happy Holidays!
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[url=http://discord.gg/SSQgTPx]Discord[/url]
[url=http://steamcommunity.com/groups/HLPugsTF]Steam Group[/url]
[url=https://www.patreon.com/hlpugs]Patreon[/url]
[LIST]
[*]Moved the chat bar to a [b]persistent right position[/b] (thanks minicircle!)
[*]Added auto-chat complete when typing “@ [person’s name]” (thanks minicircle!)
-"@admins, @support, @moderators" will now alert us on discord
[*]Added a favorite class options when clicking the star symbol
- Also auto-applies when you join the site or after a PUG ends
[*]Rules
- Moved the rules from the overview to the homepage
- Added new rules such as captain restrictions on overriding the other captain to medic
[*]Added a captain panel in the overview where you can see the [b]ELO of every captain in the database[/b]
[*]Added ability for moderators and admins to substitute players
[*]Map Pool
- Removed cp_croissant_rc6 and koth_ramjam_rc1 and added in [b]koth_warmtic_b6[/b] and [b]pl_vigil_b7[/b]
[*]Unbanned the backburner from the whitelist (bug has been fixed)
[*]Added website icons for Patron supporters and for Voice Actors
[*]Added new animations when a player is picked
- Added a setting to turn off these animations (on by default)
[*]Added five new voice packs: [b]Oblivion, Hammock, Oldbot, Karl_Wheezer, and crab_f[/b]
- Added more Kegaman Voice Lines
[*]Fixed Kegaman VoicePack not working on FireFox
[*]Added a voice cue [b]when you are picked by a captain[/b] or when the [b]duration of the timer to pick a player is about to end[/b]
[*]Added a lot of emojis into the chat
[*]Added two SFX settings: [b]snowing[/b] (snow is interactive with your mouse) and [b]blizzard[/b]
- Can disable the snow in settings (on by default)
[*]Fixed a lot of bugs
[/LIST]
[U]Major Bugs/Features In Progress[/U]: Warnings System and Refresh Issue
If you support our Patreon, you will now get access to our private channel in Discord and also a symbol on the website. If you have any problems receiving your donator benefits, please contact one of the head admins.
Thanks to everyone for their continued support of this project! Happy Holidays!
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[url=http://discord.gg/SSQgTPx]Discord[/url]
[url=http://steamcommunity.com/groups/HLPugsTF]Steam Group[/url]
[url=https://www.patreon.com/hlpugs]Patreon[/url]
Exaflamer - Added more Kegaman Voice Lines
[quote=Exaflamer] - Added more Kegaman Voice Lines[/quote]
[img]https://i.stack.imgur.com/VJwMD.png[/img]
[img]https://i.stack.imgur.com/VJwMD.png[/img]
Beta Update #3 (12/30/17):
- Fixed the captain algorithm sorting captains from least to greatest ELO and not the other way around
- Fixed audio issues with captain picking players
- Fixed captains not receiving a voice cue when time is running out
- Fixed abort draft voice cue not playing
- Fixed issues with players picked in the draft not showing while logged off
- Fixed issues with the main elements of the site not showing while logged off
- Fixed the time stamp being wrong on site chat
- Fixed substitution notification lingering on the home page
- Fixed auto-add not working on PUG end
- Fixed weird auto-scrolling on the site
- Fixed "@ [person'name]" being highlighted to everyone on the site
- Fixed issue where clicking the name of a someone who has been picked does not open their profile in a separate page
- Pug Status Score
- Fixed time stamp during PUG status score
- Fixed issue where the PUG status score is incorrectly labeling the winning team
- Fixed PUG status score not labeling the captain's alias on ties
- Fixed system messages not showing up until after refresh
- Added STV connect info on PUG start
- Fixed sorting issue with the captain ELO panel
- Fixed issue where players are unable to be picked during the end of the picking stage
- Added a new mouse hover, which now contains wins and losses for every class
- Added announcements on the home page
- Added support for tab functionality for auto-complete (Thanks Jack!)
- Added automated emote functionality
- Added more emojis and gifs
- Updated credits for the new voice actors
- Edited punishments in rules for low offenses
- Added a fireworks SFX effect for New Years
- Made the "snowing effect" more light weight with a new click effect
- Voice Packs
- Added new voice packs: Jojo's Bizarre Adventure, Bowl, and Mean Oblivion
- Removed crab_f voice pack
- Improved oblivion voice pack audio quality (with new lines as well)
- Improved Oldbot voice pack audio quality
- Added more lines for the Hammock voice pack
Happy New Year's everyone! :)
[b][u]Beta Update #3 (12/30/17)[/u][/b]:
[list]
[*] Fixed the captain algorithm sorting captains from least to greatest ELO and not the other way around
[*] Fixed audio issues with captain picking players
[*] Fixed captains not receiving a voice cue when time is running out
[*] Fixed abort draft voice cue not playing
[*] Fixed issues with players picked in the draft not showing while logged off
[*] Fixed issues with the main elements of the site not showing while logged off
[*] Fixed the time stamp being wrong on site chat
[*] Fixed substitution notification lingering on the home page
[*] Fixed auto-add not working on PUG end
[*] Fixed weird auto-scrolling on the site
[*] Fixed "@ [person'name]" being highlighted to everyone on the site
[*] Fixed issue where clicking the name of a someone who has been picked does not open their profile in a separate page
[*] Pug Status Score
- Fixed time stamp during PUG status score
- Fixed issue where the PUG status score is incorrectly labeling the winning team
- Fixed PUG status score not labeling the captain's alias on ties
- Fixed system messages not showing up until after refresh
- Added STV connect info on PUG start
[*] Fixed sorting issue with the captain ELO panel
[*] Fixed issue where players are unable to be picked during the end of the picking stage
[*] Added a new mouse hover, which now contains wins and losses for every class
[*] Added announcements on the home page
[*] Added support for tab functionality for auto-complete (Thanks Jack!)
[*] Added automated emote functionality
[*] Added more emojis and gifs
[*] Updated credits for the new voice actors
[*] Edited punishments in rules for low offenses
[*]Added a fireworks SFX effect for New Years
[*] Made the "snowing effect" more light weight with a new click effect
[*] Voice Packs
- Added new voice packs: Jojo's Bizarre Adventure, Bowl, and Mean Oblivion
- Removed crab_f voice pack
- Improved oblivion voice pack audio quality (with new lines as well)
- Improved Oldbot voice pack audio quality
- Added more lines for the Hammock voice pack
[/list]
Happy New Year's everyone! :)
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[url=http://discord.gg/SSQgTPx]Discord[/url]
[url=http://steamcommunity.com/groups/HLPugsTF]Steam Group[/url]
[url=https://www.patreon.com/hlpugs]Patreon[/url]
[list]
[*] Fixed the captain algorithm sorting captains from least to greatest ELO and not the other way around
[*] Fixed audio issues with captain picking players
[*] Fixed captains not receiving a voice cue when time is running out
[*] Fixed abort draft voice cue not playing
[*] Fixed issues with players picked in the draft not showing while logged off
[*] Fixed issues with the main elements of the site not showing while logged off
[*] Fixed the time stamp being wrong on site chat
[*] Fixed substitution notification lingering on the home page
[*] Fixed auto-add not working on PUG end
[*] Fixed weird auto-scrolling on the site
[*] Fixed "@ [person'name]" being highlighted to everyone on the site
[*] Fixed issue where clicking the name of a someone who has been picked does not open their profile in a separate page
[*] Pug Status Score
- Fixed time stamp during PUG status score
- Fixed issue where the PUG status score is incorrectly labeling the winning team
- Fixed PUG status score not labeling the captain's alias on ties
- Fixed system messages not showing up until after refresh
- Added STV connect info on PUG start
[*] Fixed sorting issue with the captain ELO panel
[*] Fixed issue where players are unable to be picked during the end of the picking stage
[*] Added a new mouse hover, which now contains wins and losses for every class
[*] Added announcements on the home page
[*] Added support for tab functionality for auto-complete (Thanks Jack!)
[*] Added automated emote functionality
[*] Added more emojis and gifs
[*] Updated credits for the new voice actors
[*] Edited punishments in rules for low offenses
[*]Added a fireworks SFX effect for New Years
[*] Made the "snowing effect" more light weight with a new click effect
[*] Voice Packs
- Added new voice packs: Jojo's Bizarre Adventure, Bowl, and Mean Oblivion
- Removed crab_f voice pack
- Improved oblivion voice pack audio quality (with new lines as well)
- Improved Oldbot voice pack audio quality
- Added more lines for the Hammock voice pack
[/list]
Happy New Year's everyone! :)
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[url=https://www.patreon.com/hlpugs]Patreon[/url]
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