ban the crossbow

As much as I miss using stock pipes this doesn't warrant a ban for it...

idk man i say we ban all unlocks except kritzkrieg, escape plan, and gunboats. make building risky again. the tradeoff of fast uber building for worse heath on a pocket and low ammo. or escape plan building which marks you for death.

honestly when the item servers were down and it was tf2 with no arrows it felt much more enjoyable

yeah lets keep nerfing demo

they didnt fix the atomiser

u will never take my iron bomber...

also dont unban atomizer shit is retartet. very much agree with mantreads tho, u can probs do some mega shit on snake with that equipped.

every change you listed has zero chance of making the game better or more fun but a nonzero chance of making it worse

crit a cola will never not be good

This logic applies to currently unbanned weapons like the quickiebomb launcher, scorch shot and loose cannon just to name a few. All of which haven't ruined the game nor made the game worse by any significant measure.

Of course my opinion isn't law by any means but I don't think theorycrafting whether a weapon hurts competitive play has any substance

Give me my mantreads

MANTREADS

they havent improved the game either

gas passer is bugged since you can throw it through thin walls

iron bomber isnt a direct upgrade long range pipe spam is actually a solid tradeoff to make

what is this mega shit u speak of

Give me my cow mangler back.

ban everything that isn't ubersaw, kritz, escape plan, gunboats, pain train

Unban Vita-Saw in Ultiduo

Ban original its easier to pogo, and shoots in the middle of your screen

Give Me Mantreads or Give Me Death

Well would you look at that, if it isn't a gosh diggity-dang corn-dog on a stick with extra cheese!

shit, misread the title as "Whitest talk"

re: iron bomber, pipe tumble and aim inconsistency is really dumb on the stock grenade launcher and valve should remove that. Definitely don't ban the iron bomber just because it behaves like the stock weapon should have all this time.

have they even fixed the infinite jumps atomizer bug yet?

Sacs into snake last using manntreads, nutty jumps u could do on mid... Manntreads are the Outkast song 'D.E.E.P.' in tf2 weapon form. It takes u fucking DEEP