Vice versa.

the G400 kind of forces you to put 3 fingers up on top of the button area because there is no safe spot for your ring finger. The Deathadder let's you choose side or top for this.

I would say forget both of them and go with a zowie product. Avoid the deathadder anyway, the new ones are not proven sensor wise yet.

What Zowie one would you recommend, I use more of a palm grip myself

Ec Evo 1 or AM
the Evo 2's are for claw if i remember correctly.

Should probably look into the EC1, the EC2 is palmable if you have smaller hands. I never really found the AM to work well with a palm grip, it's just too narrow and the profile of the mouse is just too low for a comfortable palm grip.

That said, you can't really go wrong with the G400 or DA either.

I actually have fairly large hands, would I be better off getting a g400/da then?

The Zowie EC1 evo is the same palm-able shape as the DA but it's a tiny bit wider in the middle, perfect for larger hands.

The best shape out of all the mice mentioned is the Zowie EC1 evo for sure. I would get the white one myself since it's the glossy one and much easier to grip than the black felt one.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1335226/review-of-the-deathadder-2013

zowie fanboylol

I had not seen this yet, this looks promising. However the side buttons are still in the same spot, which are way to easy to hit by accident for myself. I do like those rubber sides though.

Never used a "gaming" mouse before so I have not used the side buttons before, anybody i ask about them says they just have text binds assigned to them. Doesn't seem overly useful to me.

I always use one of the side buttons for my Mumble ptt.

Yeah I don't have a mic, parents are super paranoid about shit on the internets. If I did get one I'd only be able to use it like 2 days a week for max of about 2 hours.