yo if anyone wants to do indoor camping, let me know. we can buy a group ticket that gives more space and gets cheaper per person in a bigger group.

also it would be nice to have an area with tf2 people sleeping. maybe organise some sort of gay orgy or something idk could be fun

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I'm speaking independently and not as a representative of Ascent when I say this, so I could be wrong (I'd like to be wrong). Putting aside community, money/fundraising, passion/wanting to go, and tradition to the side, Ascent NA going to iSeries - let alone any non-mix NA or AUS team - doesn't seem like a priority either. Unless froyotech goes.

Looking at it from a competitive & marketing standpoint, the incentive of beating a b4nny roster that is a) long-term and b) not a mix team, is only but one of the factors other international teams consider when they decide if it's worth flying out to Europe. As much as I like what i61 SVIFT ft. b4nny or Se7en ft. Paddie symbolized from a community unification perspective for i61, as well as how absolutely fantastic the games looked and hearing about the people who came together to celebrate those games and this community last year - the i46 tradition of international, worldwide competition is at risk.

People ranging from players to viewers wanted to see NA's best team go to i61 to compete. They wanted to watch and participate in the best of NA vs best of EU storyline that has been marketed since i46 began it. Se7en, made up of most of i58 champions Crowns' roster and the best EU team at the time, almost didn't field a team for i61 after froyotech announced they weren't going, because one of the reasons they had was the incentive of beating their NA rivals was no longer present.

I understand where froyo is coming from; I don't agree with all of it. If b4nny wants to join an NA mix or an EU mix, that's cool for people interested in him or NA representation. If he changes his mind and is able to field froyotech, that's fantastic and beneficial to the tournament's overall interest. If another NA, AUS, or non-EU high level player or team wants to go, that still brings publicity. If not, then that's what it is. There will still be great games during i63 watched by many international viewers at home and at LAN - just not international competition, if that's the problem here.

If froyo skip i63, NA teams will just wait to fight b4nny on his home turf for Rewind III or another NA LAN, as b4nny wants, and EU teams who want to represent will have to cash out and go to froyotech, who will be waiting in the comfort of their own home because they know, like it or not, that they are valuable.

NA off ur high horse ESA is bad for everyone but b4nny

Wade left ESA. Rewind 3 is far from a guaranteed event, and as much as I'd like another international event in NA, I feel like the longer we wait for someone to throw something together, the less interest outside spectators will have in international tf2 competition - let alone regular competitive tf2. We know iseries will be offering a tf2 tournament with Multiplay's backing, and at present this doesn't seem in jeopardy going forward. That's food for thought.

As it looks at the moment, froyo will continue to dominate NA, and se7en will continue to dominate EU (it's a similar story in other continents), and that's just not an interesting story line for tf2 as a game. Seeing the competition at a high level fuelled my interest in the game over anything else, and if there isn't a high level of competition on display I don't think tf2 will retain players well. There's obviously more factors involved, but that's just my 2c.

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Are there other BYOC-Tickets available ? They seem to bei Sold Out atm...

I think it's just the early bird tickets (cheaper ones) that are sold out. If you actually try buy a ticket it should let you.

Anyone else getting a "3D Secure Authentication Failed." when trying to pay ?

I'm trying to buy BYOC tickets and it asks for a postcode so I entered my zip code (cause im in the us and we dont have postcodes lol) and it said please enter a valid postcode, so I just googled the one for the NEC and tried that but it and now it's giving me an error saying to contact the box office or something. I sent them an inquiry form or whatever and the customer service lady just said "You would need to enter the postcode valid with the card as this would be why it would not authorise,"

Has anyone else from the US/elsewhere been able to buy tickets successfully with this shit? I remember last year it being a huge hassle and having this shit happen but idr what I did :/

edit: Okay I tried a different card from one of my parents and it worked, just entered in a random postcode (the one of the NEC lol) and it was good

They outsource their booking to another company, and it's dogshite. When it was just multiplay it used to be good, but I had similar issues before with their customer service.

Does anyone know how close to the event you can cancel your tickets and how much money you are able to get back? Ideally I want to be able to be refunded if I don't find a team.

Just bumping the thread because I booking my Accommodation and Travel now and was wondering where people are staying for the weekend. Don't want to book a hotel that no one else is going to. I am also willing to share a room with someone to reduce costs.

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for those who havent seen, talent announcements are daily atm at https://twitter.com/TF2Essentials

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I didn't know IDubbz casted

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/289738691058860036/478939840751206412/i63-BYOC-Schedule.png if anyone is interested

What are the community activities (at your desk)?