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faceit is killing na tf2 pugs
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#211
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Tino_Ohh fuck off spyro no one cares, your posting is useless but congrats on that 1 idea you had about the class icons being a bad idea. Proud of you dude. Now go and shitpost on Reddit about how unfair life is or something.

about faces like that are why you're still a mod on someone else's hub and not your own

[quote=Tino_]Ohh fuck off spyro no one cares, your posting is useless but congrats on that 1 idea you had about the class icons being a bad idea. Proud of you dude. Now go and shitpost on Reddit about how unfair life is or something.[/quote]
about faces like that are why you're still a mod on someone else's hub and not your own
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#212
16 Frags +
Tino_Also calling people out for not understanding or not knowing how projects work does nothing but make you look petty, especially considering almost no one is actually calling tf2pl out for poor management. Me being one of the few that are, but my 9-5 job for the last 3 years has literally been project management so I might know a little bit about how that works.

Hey Tino, I will follow your advice, as you mentioned, I'm caught in a cross-fire, all I wanted (since almost 3 years ago), was to make The Definite Competitive Hub for TF2, hoping to help everyone, old and new, to just easily play the frigging game and have fun. It's just all so unfortunate.
I think I do owe an apology about the part you quote, I'm just insanely frustrated about dumb people saying dumb things, that doesn't apply to everybody of course (not even to a majority), and it's hard to make any statement about it. I'm sorry gang
Thanks for the kind words by the way

EDIT: please shut up spyro

[quote=Tino_]Also calling people out for not understanding or not knowing how projects work does nothing but make you look petty, especially considering almost no one is actually calling tf2pl out for poor management. Me being one of the few that are, but my 9-5 job for the last 3 years has literally been project management so I might know a little bit about how that works.[/quote]

Hey Tino, I will follow your advice, as you mentioned, I'm caught in a cross-fire, all I wanted (since almost 3 years ago), was to make The Definite Competitive Hub for TF2, hoping to help everyone, old and new, to just easily play the frigging game and have fun. It's just all so unfortunate.
I think I do owe an apology about the part you quote, I'm just insanely frustrated about dumb people saying dumb things, that doesn't apply to everybody of course (not even to a majority), and it's hard to make any statement about it. I'm sorry gang
Thanks for the kind words by the way

EDIT: please shut up spyro
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#213
38 Frags +
TwiiKuuI highly think that ditching the shitshow that is ESEA would be a grand idea, with the added benefits of having a centralized competitive platform.

AHahheHAHAHA EUhahAHAHA AHAh aHAHAAGhA

ur platform offers less functionality than we had in irc 8 years ago and every time somebody suggests improvements u bark at them for not understanding how complex the problem really is (from a programming standpoint)

esea has a good share of downsides but as far as a north american tf2 league is concerned its clearly the superior service

why would anybody trust that u guys have the competence to run a league when ur struggling to just host pugs?

EDIT: wheres the roadmap/trello board showing the stages of implementation and development? if u actually have big plans why not let people know what they are instead of alluding to them because right now people have very little reason to trust in the process when fingers keep getting pointed at "FaceIt" as the reason why we dont have these basic features that will drastically improve the quality of pugs

[quote=TwiiKuu]
I highly think that ditching the shitshow that is ESEA would be a grand idea, with the added benefits of having a centralized competitive platform. [/quote]

AHahheHAHAHA EUhahAHAHA AHAh aHAHAAGhA

ur platform offers less functionality than we had in irc 8 years ago and every time somebody suggests improvements u bark at them for not understanding how complex the problem really is (from a programming standpoint)

esea has a good share of downsides but as far as a north american tf2 league is concerned its clearly the superior service

why would anybody trust that u guys have the competence to run a league when ur struggling to just host pugs?

EDIT: wheres the roadmap/trello board showing the stages of implementation and development? if u actually have big plans why not let people know what they are instead of alluding to them because right now people have very little reason to trust in the process when fingers keep getting pointed at "FaceIt" as the reason why we dont have these basic features that will drastically improve the quality of pugs
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#214
-46 Frags +
TwiiKuuEDIT: please shut up spyro

if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen
I would play in a hub run by Tino_ or mason, just sayin'

[quote=TwiiKuu]
EDIT: please shut up spyro[/quote]

if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen
I would play in a hub run by Tino_ or mason, just sayin'
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#215
18 Frags +
Spyromancerabout faces like that are why you're still a mod on someone else's hub and not your own

Not even a mod actually, but still more useful then you.

TwiiKuu
Hey Tino, I will follow your advice, as you mentioned, I'm caught in a cross-fire, all I wanted (since almost 3 years ago), was to make The Definite Competitive Hub for TF2, hoping to help everyone, old and new, to just easily play the frigging game and have fun. It's just all so unfortunate.
I think I do owe an apology about the part you quote, I'm just insanely frustrated about dumb people saying dumb things, that doesn't apply to everybody of course (not even to a majority), and it's hard to make any statement about it. I'm sorry gang
Thanks for the kind words by the way

Don't worry about anything, like I said, been there more then once myself and wrote more then a few inflammatory posts as well, I just don't want to see you get needlessly shit on or get pushed away for nothing.

[quote=Spyromancer]
about faces like that are why you're still a mod on someone else's hub and not your own[/quote]


Not even a mod actually, but still more useful then you.

[quote=TwiiKuu]

Hey Tino, I will follow your advice, as you mentioned, I'm caught in a cross-fire, all I wanted (since almost 3 years ago), was to make The Definite Competitive Hub for TF2, hoping to help everyone, old and new, to just easily play the frigging game and have fun. It's just all so unfortunate.
I think I do owe an apology about the part you quote, I'm just insanely frustrated about dumb people saying dumb things, that doesn't apply to everybody of course (not even to a majority), and it's hard to make any statement about it. I'm sorry gang
Thanks for the kind words by the way[/quote]


Don't worry about anything, like I said, been there more then once myself and wrote more then a few inflammatory posts as well, I just don't want to see you get needlessly shit on or get pushed away for nothing.
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#216
51 Frags +
Spyromancerhe willingly made himself b4nny's bitch and you think he's not a sucker for punishment? save ur breadth

You have no idea in that tiny, close-minded space in your head that is supposed to occupy a brain, what bullshit has had to happen or what vendettas had to be put aside, so people could work with each other and commit to their desire of wanting to help this small little scene.

I don't have strong opinions about TF2PL that are worth hearing about, but I do have strong opinions about saying somebody willingly asked for this treatment when they volunteered to do it for a bigger picture, not volunteer just for motherfucking b4nny.

[quote=Spyromancer]he willingly made himself b4nny's bitch and you think he's not a sucker for punishment? save ur breadth[/quote]
You have [i]no idea[/i] in that tiny, close-minded space in your head that is supposed to occupy a brain, what bullshit has had to happen or what vendettas had to be put aside, so people could work with each other and commit to their desire of wanting to help this small little scene.

I don't have strong opinions about TF2PL that are worth hearing about, but I do have strong opinions about saying somebody willingly asked for this treatment when they volunteered to do it for a bigger picture, not volunteer just for motherfucking b4nny.
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#217
-42 Frags +
Tino_cognitive dissonance

so recently i was comin back from a beer run and ended up getting stuck on a fallen tree in the alley behind my friend's house
didn't see that shit until it wedged itself under the car
thing's front wheel drive, one wheel in the air, mud under the other tire, just a useless fuckin mess. you know how dogs start paddling before they even touch water? imagine that, but car size
so buddy gave me a super thin saw with a stoppy handle thing, a 10lb water weight, a crowbar, and some other bs that I don't remember. passed out in the car after i sawed at the tree for 2 hours only to realize that stupid handle was gonna prevent me from cutting all the way through and pulling the tree out piece by piece.
next day, borrow an old 2 ton jack from buddy's buddy. it's real short but I figure I can lift one end enough to pull the tree back out the way it came
sadly, the tree was all gnarly n shit, and the ground dried out enough to where I couldn't rotate it. jack was kinda short, too, so I spent a while trying to raise the car, alternating sides to try and wiggle it out.
8 hours after I start, all the while dealing with a hangover and buddy who I was staying at's bratty little kid, folks across the fence give me a 5 ton jack that's like a foot and a half longer
I lift the car from a lift post in the middle, about a foot past the front end, and yank that tree out. 10 minutes, start to finish.
moral of the story is: if I didn't fuck around for ten hours doing a ten minute job, I'd still have my phone, speaker, and the fucked up alignment from when I spun out into that ditch.

[quote=Tino_]cognitive dissonance[/quote]
so recently i was comin back from a beer run and ended up getting stuck on a fallen tree in the alley behind my friend's house
didn't see that shit until it wedged itself under the car
thing's front wheel drive, one wheel in the air, mud under the other tire, just a useless fuckin mess. you know how dogs start paddling before they even touch water? imagine that, but car size
so buddy gave me a super thin saw with a stoppy handle thing, a 10lb water weight, a crowbar, and some other bs that I don't remember. passed out in the car after i sawed at the tree for 2 hours only to realize that stupid handle was gonna prevent me from cutting all the way through and pulling the tree out piece by piece.
next day, borrow an old 2 ton jack from buddy's buddy. it's real short but I figure I can lift one end enough to pull the tree back out the way it came
sadly, the tree was all gnarly n shit, and the ground dried out enough to where I couldn't rotate it. jack was kinda short, too, so I spent a while trying to raise the car, alternating sides to try and wiggle it out.
8 hours after I start, all the while dealing with a hangover and buddy who I was staying at's bratty little kid, folks across the fence give me a 5 ton jack that's like a foot and a half longer
I lift the car from a lift post in the middle, about a foot past the front end, and yank that tree out. 10 minutes, start to finish.
moral of the story is: if I didn't fuck around for ten hours doing a ten minute job, I'd still have my phone, speaker, and the fucked up alignment from when I spun out into that ditch.
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#218
-38 Frags +
uberchainclueless

I put 2500km on a vehicle none of the mechanics here wanted to safety just so I could get to LAN
don't whine to me about your pinprick dramas ok

[quote=uberchain]clueless[/quote]
I put 2500km on a vehicle none of the mechanics here wanted to safety just so I could get to LAN
don't whine to me about your pinprick dramas ok
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#219
24 Frags +

What the fuck are you talking about?

What the fuck are you talking about?
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#220
-28 Frags +
ImmatureLlamaWhat the fuck are you talking about?

b4nny's complete mismanaged expectations of what the TF2 community wants out of a PUG ladder/ league crossover

[quote=ImmatureLlama]What the fuck are you talking about?[/quote]
b4nny's complete mismanaged expectations of what the TF2 community wants out of a PUG ladder/ league crossover
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#221
23 Frags +
SpyromanceruberchaincluelessI put 2500km on a vehicle none of the mechanics here wanted to safety just so I could get to LAN
don't whine to me about your pinprick dramas ok

of all the anecdotes to try to show you were a smart person

that wasn't one of them

DongaCongaWalrexfriendly reminder that pugchamp isnt so fun for the boys getting fatkidded for hours on endsnip

pugchamp isn't designed to support large numbers of players at a low level, that's what mixchamp is for. if you dont get picked on pugchamp regularly it means there aren't enough players around your level to make you worth a pick over someone who's far better. it's not a circlejerk, it's literally good people picking good people

honestly beginner/amateur faceit looks a pretty good environment, far better than tf2c at least. what people are complaining about is the experience for invite/advanced players

[quote=Spyromancer][quote=uberchain]clueless[/quote]
I put 2500km on a vehicle none of the mechanics here wanted to safety just so I could get to LAN
don't whine to me about your pinprick dramas ok[/quote]

of all the anecdotes to try to show you were a smart person

that wasn't one of them

[quote=DongaConga][quote=Walrex]friendly reminder that pugchamp isnt so fun for the boys getting fatkidded for hours on end[/quote]
snip[/quote]

pugchamp isn't designed to support large numbers of players at a low level, that's what mixchamp is for. if you dont get picked on pugchamp regularly it means there aren't enough players around your level to make you worth a pick over someone who's far better. it's not a circlejerk, it's literally good people picking good people

honestly beginner/amateur faceit looks a pretty good environment, far better than tf2c at least. what people are complaining about is the experience for invite/advanced players
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#222
38 Frags +

why is spyromancer not banned from tftv yet? all he does is spam his autistic hub that nobody cares about

fuck off and let the people with an IQ of above 100 speak

why is spyromancer not banned from tftv yet? all he does is spam his autistic hub that nobody cares about

fuck off and let the people with an IQ of above 100 speak
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#223
3 Frags +

yooooo banny sucks!!!

yooooo banny sucks!!!
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#224
5 Frags +

who is the scrum master of tf2pl

who is the scrum master of tf2pl
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#225
10 Frags +

why do spyromancers post read like atomsk's 0_o

why do spyromancers post read like atomsk's 0_o
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#226
61 Frags +

https://media.giphy.com/media/fDO2Nk0ImzvvW/giphy.gif

[img]https://media.giphy.com/media/fDO2Nk0ImzvvW/giphy.gif[/img]
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#227
12 Frags +

dam this thread was actually looking like it might go somewhere before spyro showed up :(

Show Content
hype if tf2pl actually starts doing league stuff
dam this thread was actually looking like it might go somewhere before spyro showed up :(

[spoiler]hype if tf2pl actually starts doing league stuff[/spoiler]
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#228
7 Frags +
SpyromanceruberchaincluelessI put 2500km on a vehicle none of the mechanics here wanted to safety just so I could get to LAN

and nothing of value was gained

[quote=Spyromancer][quote=uberchain]clueless[/quote]
I put 2500km on a vehicle none of the mechanics here wanted to safety just so I could get to LAN
[/quote]

and nothing of value was gained
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#229
31 Frags +

Ban Spyromancer, it's not too late.

Ban Spyromancer, it's not too late.
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#230
0 Frags +

yikes

yikes
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#231
-13 Frags +

Tftv when b4nny enters the room
https://youtu.be/UmWgFZ4ILMw

Tftv when b4nny enters the room
https://youtu.be/UmWgFZ4ILMw
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#232
-11 Frags +
crackbabydumpsterand nothing of value was gained

how do i delete my reply

[quote=crackbabydumpster]
and nothing of value was gained[/quote]
how do i delete my reply
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#233
RGB LAN
33 Frags +
SpyromanceruberchaincluelessI put 2500km on a vehicle none of the mechanics here wanted to safety just so I could get to LAN
don't whine to me about your pinprick dramas ok

I can't tell if that's more or less impressive than flying out to many LANs (including Rewind and Insomnia) to help with everything needed, creating a documentary, doing countless hours of graphic design work (including doing many different revisions of the Ascent logo and basically anything/everything Ascent related), photography, charity work, and countless other things that I'm surely forgetting on her behalf.

I don't know if your goal on TFTV is to play the villain to make your points, but you don't need to be cryptic and/or go on some wild, irrelevant tangent with "lmao i drove a car to a LAN so i dont wanna hear ur drama lmao"

[quote=Spyromancer][quote=uberchain]clueless[/quote]
I put 2500km on a vehicle none of the mechanics here wanted to safety just so I could get to LAN
don't whine to me about your pinprick dramas ok[/quote]

I can't tell if that's more or less impressive than flying out to many LANs (including Rewind and Insomnia) to help with everything needed, creating a documentary, doing countless hours of graphic design work (including doing many different revisions of the Ascent logo and basically anything/everything Ascent related), photography, charity work, and countless other things that I'm surely forgetting on her behalf.

I don't know if your goal on TFTV is to play the villain to make your points, but you don't need to be cryptic and/or go on some wild, irrelevant tangent with "lmao i drove a car to a LAN so i dont wanna hear ur drama lmao"
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#234
7 Frags +
Spyromancercrackbabydumpsterand nothing of value was gainedhow do i delete my reply

Before he edited this it was a link to a faceit game he beat saam in LOL.

https://www.faceit.com/en/tf2/room/c11a75c9-2ae1-4ea1-861d-c6035e395dee/scoreboard

[quote=Spyromancer][quote=crackbabydumpster]
and nothing of value was gained[/quote]
how do i delete my reply[/quote]

Before he edited this it was a link to a faceit game he beat saam in LOL.

https://www.faceit.com/en/tf2/room/c11a75c9-2ae1-4ea1-861d-c6035e395dee/scoreboard
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#235
tf2pickup.org
-2 Frags +

Do I get it right or fixing pugchamp's bugs would be the holy graal of tf2 competitive community?

Do I get it right or fixing pugchamp's bugs would be the holy graal of tf2 competitive community?
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#236
-25 Frags +
TheFragileI don't know if your goal on TFTV is to play the villain to make your points, but you don't need to be cryptic and/or go on some wild, irrelevant tangent with "lmao i drove a car to a LAN so i dont wanna hear ur drama lmao"

my goal is to be heard, i'm not a villain
things are funner my way, even if your brain's miswired to mistake pain for pleasure

[quote=TheFragile]
I don't know if your goal on TFTV is to play the villain to make your points, but you don't need to be cryptic and/or go on some wild, irrelevant tangent with "lmao i drove a car to a LAN so i dont wanna hear ur drama lmao"[/quote]

my goal is to be heard, i'm not a villain
things are funner my way, even if your brain's miswired to mistake pain for pleasure
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#237
23 Frags +

spyro you have posted 19 times in the past 8 hours

i think like 12 of them are on this thread alone

spyro you have posted 19 times in the past 8 hours

i think like 12 of them are on this thread alone
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#238
17 Frags +
Spyromancerthings are funner my way, even if your brain's miswired to mistake pain for pleasure

ur name is unironically SPYROMANCER rofl

[quote=Spyromancer]
things are funner my way, even if your brain's miswired to mistake pain for pleasure[/quote]
ur name is unironically SPYROMANCER rofl
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#239
18 Frags +
gemmIf you dont get picked on pugchamp regularly it means there aren't enough players around your level to make you worth a pick over someone who's far better. it's not a circlejerk, it's literally good people picking good people"

Uh, it kinda is. Many captains will just not pick a better player because they don't personally like that person or they wont pick a better player because they have a friend added up. On top of that captains will even make agreements to fatkid players. Certain players are pretty much blacklisted to be played with because of memes and shit. Milan is a good example of this. In tf2pl where the team is supposed to do whatever it takes to win and there's elo on the line Milan is generally a good pick but on pug champ many will avoid picking him even if hes the better player because of circle jerk or personal reasons. Another example ive seen is RktKing picked above multiple invite and IM meds because of circlejerk and meme. Again i still think pugchamp is a better system but dont say this doesnt exist

[quote=gemm]If you dont get picked on pugchamp regularly it means there aren't enough players around your level to make you worth a pick over someone who's far better. it's not a circlejerk, it's literally good people picking good people"[/quote]

Uh, it kinda is. Many captains will just not pick a better player because they don't personally like that person or they wont pick a better player because they have a friend added up. On top of that captains will even make agreements to fatkid players. Certain players are pretty much blacklisted to be played with because of memes and shit. Milan is a good example of this. In tf2pl where the team is supposed to do whatever it takes to win and there's elo on the line Milan is generally a good pick but on pug champ many will avoid picking him even if hes the better player because of circle jerk or personal reasons. Another example ive seen is RktKing picked above multiple invite and IM meds because of circlejerk and meme. Again i still think pugchamp is a better system but dont say this doesnt exist
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#240
-5 Frags +
SpyromancerTino_Ohh fuck off spyro no one cares, your posting is useless but congrats on that 1 idea you had about the class icons being a bad idea. Proud of you dude. Now go and shitpost on Reddit about how unfair life is or something.about faces like that are why you're still a mod on someone else's hub and not your own

why the fuck do you think the correct answer is to just fuck off and leave? you're like the kid on the schoolyard who decides to just take his ball and go home when the other mean bullies don't want to play the game exactly the way he wants to

[quote=Spyromancer][quote=Tino_]Ohh fuck off spyro no one cares, your posting is useless but congrats on that 1 idea you had about the class icons being a bad idea. Proud of you dude. Now go and shitpost on Reddit about how unfair life is or something.[/quote]
about faces like that are why you're still a mod on someone else's hub and not your own[/quote]

why the fuck do you think the correct answer is to just fuck off and leave? you're like the kid on the schoolyard who decides to just take his ball and go home when the other mean bullies don't want to play the game exactly the way he wants to
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