So I've been noticing that i have big trouble hitting ground soldiers. If they're jumping me it's pretty easy for me to airshot them, unless they're up in the skybox... Then i can't do shit, but i have trouble hitting pipes on soldiers that are just walking at me. My sens is around 15cm/360 or something like that and i flick a lot. Is it because of that? (pls don't tell me to lower my sens cause it's what lets me hit those pesky scouts ;_;) Also, do you have any specific tips on how to hit ground soldiers? Tnx ;)
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So I've been noticing that i have big trouble hitting ground soldiers. If they're jumping me it's pretty easy for me to airshot them, unless they're up in the skybox... Then i can't do shit, but i have trouble hitting pipes on soldiers that are just walking at me. My sens is around 15cm/360 or something like that and i flick a lot. Is it because of that? (pls don't tell me to lower my sens cause it's what lets me hit those pesky scouts ;_;) Also, do you have any specific tips on how to hit ground soldiers? Tnx ;)
practice practice practice
there's no way to directly beat soldiers, you just have to hit more pipes and stickies to counteract them. positioning also plays a big roll.
practice practice practice
there's no way to directly beat soldiers, you just have to hit more pipes and stickies to counteract them. positioning also plays a big roll.
there's no way to directly beat soldiers, you just have to hit more pipes and stickies to counteract them. positioning also plays a big roll.
Practise pipes on newbots. Also maybe try not go for pipes on grounded soldiers - stickies can fuck up and keep juggling them if they cant jumo away. If they are grounded but on highground stickies knock them and force them to rejumo to get on highground.
Practise pipes on newbots. Also maybe try not go for pipes on grounded soldiers - stickies can fuck up and keep juggling them if they cant jumo away. If they are grounded but on highground stickies knock them and force them to rejumo to get on highground.
usually stickies are better than pipes if they're just waddling at you
usually stickies are better than pipes if they're just waddling at you
I have this problem where I cant hit a scout that knows spacebar exists. For some reason I just cant land a pipe on them even after all the DM grinds Ive been through
at least I fuck soldiers
btw: as people mentioned, just farm DM or even do Soldier v Demo MGEs in blands mid or via mid both are fun to play
I find hitting soldiers relatively easy, but that might be just me who knows
TL;DR just git gud :popo:
I have this problem where I cant hit a scout that knows spacebar exists. For some reason I just cant land a pipe on them even after all the DM grinds Ive been through
at least I fuck soldiers
btw: as people mentioned, just farm DM or even do Soldier v Demo MGEs in blands mid or via mid both are fun to play
I find hitting soldiers relatively easy, but that might be just me who knows
TL;DR just git gud :popo:
at least I fuck soldiers
btw: as people mentioned, just farm DM or even do Soldier v Demo MGEs in blands mid or via mid both are fun to play
I find hitting soldiers relatively easy, but that might be just me who knows
TL;DR just git gud :popo:
The guy is from EU and here we don't play demo on ammomod (for obvious reasons)
Just play normally and what you enjoy, if you don't get frustrated at things like these you will improve much faster
The guy is from EU and here we don't play demo on ammomod (for obvious reasons)
Just play normally and what you enjoy, if you don't get frustrated at things like these you will improve much faster
Just play normally and what you enjoy, if you don't get frustrated at things like these you will improve much faster
play on those 4 dm servers which are full/empty all the time
play on those 4 dm servers which are full/empty all the time
pls dont play demo in mge ive had it with these Habibs ruining my sesh just keep playing 6s!
pls dont play demo in mge ive had it with these Habibs ruining my sesh just keep playing 6s!
edinusually stickies are better than pipes if they're just waddling at you
I know, but you see, i want to get good against every class with every weapon, and I'm also a big pipe enthusiast kek
[quote=edin]usually stickies are better than pipes if they're just waddling at you[/quote]
I know, but you see, i want to get good against every class with every weapon, and I'm also a big pipe enthusiast kek
I know, but you see, i want to get good against every class with every weapon, and I'm also a big pipe enthusiast kek
just get good mamz 0wned signed by absentxd
everything has already been said here i guess; if airshots are easier for you, pop them up with stickies. no matter how much of a pipe lover you are, sticky launcher is your primary
just get good mamz 0wned signed by absentxd
everything has already been said here i guess; if airshots are easier for you, pop them up with stickies. no matter how much of a pipe lover you are, sticky launcher is your primary
everything has already been said here i guess; if airshots are easier for you, pop them up with stickies. no matter how much of a pipe lover you are, sticky launcher is your primary
cryosisjust get good mamz 0wned signed by absentxd
everything has already been said here i guess; if airshots are easier for you, pop them up with stickies. no matter how much of a pipe lover you are, sticky launcher is your primary
Wassup you beautiful bastard?
[quote=cryosis]just get good mamz 0wned signed by absentxd
everything has already been said here i guess; if airshots are easier for you, pop them up with stickies. no matter how much of a pipe lover you are, sticky launcher is your primary[/quote]
Wassup you beautiful bastard?
everything has already been said here i guess; if airshots are easier for you, pop them up with stickies. no matter how much of a pipe lover you are, sticky launcher is your primary[/quote]
Wassup you beautiful bastard?
funhaver1998pls dont play demo in mge ive had it with these Habibs ruining my sesh just keep playing 6s!
whats wrong with playing demo in mge?
[quote=funhaver1998]pls dont play demo in mge ive had it with these Habibs ruining my sesh just keep playing 6s![/quote]
whats wrong with playing demo in mge?
whats wrong with playing demo in mge?
Linkerfunhaver1998pls dont play demo in mge ive had it with these Habibs ruining my sesh just keep playing 6s!
whats wrong with playing demo in mge?
I guess people hate stickyes, but i myself never play mge with them, it's pretty much useless unless its the other person that wants me to use them, cause as soon as i take them out people !remove kek
[quote=Linker][quote=funhaver1998]pls dont play demo in mge ive had it with these Habibs ruining my sesh just keep playing 6s![/quote]
whats wrong with playing demo in mge?[/quote]
I guess people hate stickyes, but i myself never play mge with them, it's pretty much useless unless its the other person that wants me to use them, cause as soon as i take them out people !remove kek
whats wrong with playing demo in mge?[/quote]
I guess people hate stickyes, but i myself never play mge with them, it's pretty much useless unless its the other person that wants me to use them, cause as soon as i take them out people !remove kek
its really really unfun to play against like ive never had fun playing against any demo ever and i've never felt like it was even possible to have fun or learn anything from the match up at all
90% of the time whats happening is the demo is in the furthest point of the map from you where you are doing -3, you gotta obviously now run into him because at your -3 range he hits -100, but hes got a trap there where you insta die to sticky/pipe combo.
mostly happens on via mid. the demo is just behind the rock and then you jump around the rock to get to him but there's a sticky there and he dets and pipes u at the same time.
the sticky/pipe combo thing is much easier to do in mge and unrealistic because of this. its about positioning and forcing people to come to you which doesn't improve whatever you want to learn in 6s at all and literally insta kills you and there's nothing you can do about it especially when you're a soldier
its dumb
idk why people are suggesting ammomod as a way to get better at it too because other than viaduct its the next worse thing u can do because all it falls into is how far is the soldier away from you when you spawn and if you mess up the sticky pipe combo thing or not, which is again completely mge specific
you mess up = u die
u don't mess up = he dies and there's nothing rly he can do about it cause he just spawned too far even if he aimed perfect rockets
its really really unfun to play against like ive never had fun playing against any demo ever and i've never felt like it was even possible to have fun or learn anything from the match up at all
90% of the time whats happening is the demo is in the furthest point of the map from you where you are doing -3, you gotta obviously now run into him because at your -3 range he hits -100, but hes got a trap there where you insta die to sticky/pipe combo.
mostly happens on via mid. the demo is just behind the rock and then you jump around the rock to get to him but there's a sticky there and he dets and pipes u at the same time.
the sticky/pipe combo thing is much easier to do in mge and unrealistic because of this. its about positioning and forcing people to come to you which doesn't improve whatever you want to learn in 6s at all and literally insta kills you and there's nothing you can do about it especially when you're a soldier
[b]its dumb[/b]
idk why people are suggesting ammomod as a way to get better at it too because other than viaduct its the next worse thing u can do because all it falls into is how far is the soldier away from you when you spawn and if you mess up the sticky pipe combo thing or not, which is again completely mge specific
you mess up = u die
u don't mess up = he dies and there's nothing rly he can do about it cause he just spawned too far even if he aimed perfect rockets
90% of the time whats happening is the demo is in the furthest point of the map from you where you are doing -3, you gotta obviously now run into him because at your -3 range he hits -100, but hes got a trap there where you insta die to sticky/pipe combo.
mostly happens on via mid. the demo is just behind the rock and then you jump around the rock to get to him but there's a sticky there and he dets and pipes u at the same time.
the sticky/pipe combo thing is much easier to do in mge and unrealistic because of this. its about positioning and forcing people to come to you which doesn't improve whatever you want to learn in 6s at all and literally insta kills you and there's nothing you can do about it especially when you're a soldier
[b]its dumb[/b]
idk why people are suggesting ammomod as a way to get better at it too because other than viaduct its the next worse thing u can do because all it falls into is how far is the soldier away from you when you spawn and if you mess up the sticky pipe combo thing or not, which is again completely mge specific
you mess up = u die
u don't mess up = he dies and there's nothing rly he can do about it cause he just spawned too far even if he aimed perfect rockets
funhaver1998...and i've never felt like it was even possible to have fun or learn anything from the match up at all
I can agree with this. Whenever I play a demoman as soldier, either I spawn close and I can easily get him or I spawn far away and need to make a choice:
1. Bomb him easy kill learn nothing in the process (unless he knows how to airshot, in which case, learn nothing in the process)
2. Get close to him without jumps and get destroyed by stickies, learn nothing in the process
although wtf do you mean with your sesh
[quote=funhaver1998]...and i've never felt like it was even possible to have fun [b]or learn anything from the match up at all[/b][/quote]
I can agree with this. Whenever I play a demoman as soldier, either I spawn close and I can easily get him or I spawn far away and need to make a choice:
1. Bomb him easy kill learn nothing in the process (unless he knows how to airshot, in which case, learn nothing in the process)
2. Get close to him without jumps and get destroyed by stickies, learn nothing in the process
although wtf do you mean with your sesh
I can agree with this. Whenever I play a demoman as soldier, either I spawn close and I can easily get him or I spawn far away and need to make a choice:
1. Bomb him easy kill learn nothing in the process (unless he knows how to airshot, in which case, learn nothing in the process)
2. Get close to him without jumps and get destroyed by stickies, learn nothing in the process
although wtf do you mean with your sesh
funhaver1998its really really unfun to play against like ive never had fun playing against any demo ever and i've never felt like it was even possible to have fun or learn anything from the match up at all
90% of the time whats happening is the demo is in the furthest point of the map from you where you are doing -3, you gotta obviously now run into him because at your -3 range he hits -100, but hes got a trap there where you insta die to sticky/pipe combo.
mostly happens on via mid. the demo is just behind the rock and then you jump around the rock to get to him but there's a sticky there and he dets and pipes u at the same time.
the sticky/pipe combo thing is much easier to do in mge and unrealistic because of this. its about positioning and forcing people to come to you which doesn't improve whatever you want to learn in 6s at all and literally insta kills you and there's nothing you can do about it especially when you're a soldier
its dumb
idk why people are suggesting ammomod as a way to get better at it too because other than viaduct its the next worse thing u can do because all it falls into is how far is the soldier away from you when you spawn and if you mess up the sticky pipe combo thing or not, which is again completely mge specific
you mess up = u die
u don't mess up = he dies and there's nothing rly he can do about it cause he just spawned too far even if he aimed perfect rockets
Basically why i never use sticks in mge. I get it that it's unfun to play against it, so i don't use it, also cause i don't learn much in the process either
[quote=funhaver1998]its really really unfun to play against like ive never had fun playing against any demo ever and i've never felt like it was even possible to have fun or learn anything from the match up at all
90% of the time whats happening is the demo is in the furthest point of the map from you where you are doing -3, you gotta obviously now run into him because at your -3 range he hits -100, but hes got a trap there where you insta die to sticky/pipe combo.
mostly happens on via mid. the demo is just behind the rock and then you jump around the rock to get to him but there's a sticky there and he dets and pipes u at the same time.
the sticky/pipe combo thing is much easier to do in mge and unrealistic because of this. its about positioning and forcing people to come to you which doesn't improve whatever you want to learn in 6s at all and literally insta kills you and there's nothing you can do about it especially when you're a soldier
[b]its dumb[/b]
idk why people are suggesting ammomod as a way to get better at it too because other than viaduct its the next worse thing u can do because all it falls into is how far is the soldier away from you when you spawn and if you mess up the sticky pipe combo thing or not, which is again completely mge specific
you mess up = u die
u don't mess up = he dies and there's nothing rly he can do about it cause he just spawned too far even if he aimed perfect rockets[/quote]
Basically why i never use sticks in mge. I get it that it's unfun to play against it, so i don't use it, also cause i don't learn much in the process either
90% of the time whats happening is the demo is in the furthest point of the map from you where you are doing -3, you gotta obviously now run into him because at your -3 range he hits -100, but hes got a trap there where you insta die to sticky/pipe combo.
mostly happens on via mid. the demo is just behind the rock and then you jump around the rock to get to him but there's a sticky there and he dets and pipes u at the same time.
the sticky/pipe combo thing is much easier to do in mge and unrealistic because of this. its about positioning and forcing people to come to you which doesn't improve whatever you want to learn in 6s at all and literally insta kills you and there's nothing you can do about it especially when you're a soldier
[b]its dumb[/b]
idk why people are suggesting ammomod as a way to get better at it too because other than viaduct its the next worse thing u can do because all it falls into is how far is the soldier away from you when you spawn and if you mess up the sticky pipe combo thing or not, which is again completely mge specific
you mess up = u die
u don't mess up = he dies and there's nothing rly he can do about it cause he just spawned too far even if he aimed perfect rockets[/quote]
Basically why i never use sticks in mge. I get it that it's unfun to play against it, so i don't use it, also cause i don't learn much in the process either
the pipes not fun either then im just shooting at a potato thats going to become a mad potato (or should i say hot potato) and then eventually use them. ur not gonna learn anything even doing that
if u played dm/mge as scout or soldier in between playing 6s, even shitty lobbies, where u can play demo there, it would be more effective.
like u don't aim either of demos weps in the same way you would a rocket or scatter its situational even to a point where you're shooting at something not even on your screen. if ur piping some guy in 1 situation all the time ur not getting anywhere...
if u want to be good at 6s play a lot of 6s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHJzg6Nf42M
watch this or any demo frag vid or any moment where a demo displays dm prowess and think whether or not the situation is like what you would find in mge at all
people used to regard kaidus as having the best dm on demo in the game and have u ever seen him in a dm/mge server? i haven't. i haven't seen any Bdonski, Numlocked (playing demo), Ryb, Elacour, Jimbot, etc until recently Habib popularised it and plagued my seshes and the ones that play it aren't even good like if u think of someone who plays demo in mge they are like open/mid/NA open + yight, habib and bullet, who are invite, yes, but are also TROLLS
the pipes not fun either then im just shooting at a potato thats going to become a mad potato (or should i say hot potato) and then eventually use them. ur not gonna learn anything even doing that
if u played dm/mge as scout or soldier in between playing 6s, even shitty lobbies, where u can play demo there, it would be more effective.
like u don't aim either of demos weps in the same way you would a rocket or scatter its situational even to a point where you're shooting at something not even on your screen. if ur piping some guy in 1 situation all the time ur not getting anywhere...
[b]if u want to be good at 6s play a lot of 6s[/b]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHJzg6Nf42M
watch this or any demo frag vid or any moment where a demo displays dm prowess and think whether or not the situation is like what you would find in mge at all
people used to regard kaidus as having the best dm on demo in the game and have u ever seen him in a dm/mge server? i haven't. i haven't seen any Bdonski, Numlocked (playing demo), Ryb, Elacour, Jimbot, etc until recently [b]Habib[/b] popularised it and plagued my seshes and the ones that play it aren't even good like if u think of someone who plays demo in mge they are like open/mid/NA open + yight, habib and bullet, who are invite, yes, but are also TROLLS
if u played dm/mge as scout or soldier in between playing 6s, even shitty lobbies, where u can play demo there, it would be more effective.
like u don't aim either of demos weps in the same way you would a rocket or scatter its situational even to a point where you're shooting at something not even on your screen. if ur piping some guy in 1 situation all the time ur not getting anywhere...
[b]if u want to be good at 6s play a lot of 6s[/b]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHJzg6Nf42M
watch this or any demo frag vid or any moment where a demo displays dm prowess and think whether or not the situation is like what you would find in mge at all
people used to regard kaidus as having the best dm on demo in the game and have u ever seen him in a dm/mge server? i haven't. i haven't seen any Bdonski, Numlocked (playing demo), Ryb, Elacour, Jimbot, etc until recently [b]Habib[/b] popularised it and plagued my seshes and the ones that play it aren't even good like if u think of someone who plays demo in mge they are like open/mid/NA open + yight, habib and bullet, who are invite, yes, but are also TROLLS
funhaver1998the pipes not fun either then im just shooting at a potato thats going to become a mad potato (or should i say hot potato) and then eventually use them. ur not gonna learn anything even doing that
if u played dm/mge as scout or soldier in between playing 6s, even shitty lobbies, where u can play demo there, it would be more effective.
like u don't aim either of demos weps in the same way you would a rocket or scatter its situational even to a point where you're shooting at something not even on your screen. if ur piping some guy in 1 situation all the time ur not getting anywhere...
if u want to be good at 6s play a lot of 6s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHJzg6Nf42M
watch this or any demo frag vid or any moment where a demo displays dm prowess and think whether or not the situation is like what you would find in mge at all
people used to regard kaidus as having the best dm on demo in the game and have u ever seen him in a dm/mge server? i haven't. i haven't seen any Bdonski, Numlocked (playing demo), Ryb, Elacour, Jimbot, etc until recently Habib popularised it and plagued my seshes and the ones that play it aren't even good like if u think of someone who plays demo in mge they are like open/mid/NA open + yight, habib and bullet, who are invite, yes, but are also TROLLS
I met elacour in a dm server lmao he added me after that, and his pipes are prob better than kaidus', and tbh i learned how to hit pipes just thanks to mge. Tbh it kinda looks like you don't like demoman so you're bitching about it. The mge thing doesn't make any sense, when can you find a complete 1v1 situation in an actual game except maybe when SOMEHOW everyone is dead but 2 scout or 2 soldiers, and even then many factors come in like remaining hp etc. Its also known that frag videos are good for nothing if you want to learn, they don't show anyting but a guy's highlights. It's not like i can hit splash from a far with pipes, they're not as consistent as rockets, not to talk about hitscan. Half of an actual 6s game is stalenates, so if i want to improve quickly my dm it's not the best thing. I repeat, it just looks like you had a bad experience in mge with a good demo so you don't want me to play it,and i don't think it's that useless if 3 people above said it's something i should do. Peace
[quote=funhaver1998]the pipes not fun either then im just shooting at a potato thats going to become a mad potato (or should i say hot potato) and then eventually use them. ur not gonna learn anything even doing that
if u played dm/mge as scout or soldier in between playing 6s, even shitty lobbies, where u can play demo there, it would be more effective.
like u don't aim either of demos weps in the same way you would a rocket or scatter its situational even to a point where you're shooting at something not even on your screen. if ur piping some guy in 1 situation all the time ur not getting anywhere...
[b]if u want to be good at 6s play a lot of 6s[/b]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHJzg6Nf42M
watch this or any demo frag vid or any moment where a demo displays dm prowess and think whether or not the situation is like what you would find in mge at all
people used to regard kaidus as having the best dm on demo in the game and have u ever seen him in a dm/mge server? i haven't. i haven't seen any Bdonski, Numlocked (playing demo), Ryb, Elacour, Jimbot, etc until recently [b]Habib[/b] popularised it and plagued my seshes and the ones that play it aren't even good like if u think of someone who plays demo in mge they are like open/mid/NA open + yight, habib and bullet, who are invite, yes, but are also TROLLS[/quote]
I met elacour in a dm server lmao he added me after that, and his pipes are prob better than kaidus', and tbh i learned how to hit pipes just thanks to mge. Tbh it kinda looks like you don't like demoman so you're bitching about it. The mge thing doesn't make any sense, when can you find a complete 1v1 situation in an actual game except maybe when SOMEHOW everyone is dead but 2 scout or 2 soldiers, and even then many factors come in like remaining hp etc. Its also known that frag videos are good for nothing if you want to learn, they don't show anyting but a guy's highlights. It's not like i can hit splash from a far with pipes, they're not as consistent as rockets, not to talk about hitscan. Half of an actual 6s game is stalenates, so if i want to improve quickly my dm it's not the best thing. I repeat, it just looks like you had a bad experience in mge with a good demo so you don't want me to play it,and i don't think it's that useless if 3 people above said it's something i should do. Peace
if u played dm/mge as scout or soldier in between playing 6s, even shitty lobbies, where u can play demo there, it would be more effective.
like u don't aim either of demos weps in the same way you would a rocket or scatter its situational even to a point where you're shooting at something not even on your screen. if ur piping some guy in 1 situation all the time ur not getting anywhere...
[b]if u want to be good at 6s play a lot of 6s[/b]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHJzg6Nf42M
watch this or any demo frag vid or any moment where a demo displays dm prowess and think whether or not the situation is like what you would find in mge at all
people used to regard kaidus as having the best dm on demo in the game and have u ever seen him in a dm/mge server? i haven't. i haven't seen any Bdonski, Numlocked (playing demo), Ryb, Elacour, Jimbot, etc until recently [b]Habib[/b] popularised it and plagued my seshes and the ones that play it aren't even good like if u think of someone who plays demo in mge they are like open/mid/NA open + yight, habib and bullet, who are invite, yes, but are also TROLLS[/quote]
I met elacour in a dm server lmao he added me after that, and his pipes are prob better than kaidus', and tbh i learned how to hit pipes just thanks to mge. Tbh it kinda looks like you don't like demoman so you're bitching about it. The mge thing doesn't make any sense, when can you find a complete 1v1 situation in an actual game except maybe when SOMEHOW everyone is dead but 2 scout or 2 soldiers, and even then many factors come in like remaining hp etc. Its also known that frag videos are good for nothing if you want to learn, they don't show anyting but a guy's highlights. It's not like i can hit splash from a far with pipes, they're not as consistent as rockets, not to talk about hitscan. Half of an actual 6s game is stalenates, so if i want to improve quickly my dm it's not the best thing. I repeat, it just looks like you had a bad experience in mge with a good demo so you don't want me to play it,and i don't think it's that useless if 3 people above said it's something i should do. Peace
I have the same problem mamz and for me, part of it is getting in a rhythm. Simply getting comfortable with the projectile in the same way that you can get comfortable with rockets - knowing the timing, speed, angle, etc. Also for mge, if you don't have anyone to play, play badlands mid. Otherwise do ammomod or no splash to help with directs because that's where waddling is most prevalent.
I have the same problem mamz and for me, part of it is getting in a rhythm. Simply getting comfortable with the projectile in the same way that you can get comfortable with rockets - knowing the timing, speed, angle, etc. Also for mge, if you don't have anyone to play, play badlands mid. Otherwise do ammomod or no splash to help with directs because that's where waddling is most prevalent.
attackoftheidiotsI have the same problem mamz and for me, part of it is getting in a rhythm. Simply getting comfortable with the projectile in the same way that you can get comfortable with rockets - knowing the timing, speed, angle, etc. Also for mge, if you don't have anyone to play, play badlands mid. Otherwise do ammomod or no splash to help with directs because that's where waddling is most prevalent.
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[quote=attackoftheidiots]I have the same problem mamz and for me, part of it is getting in a rhythm. Simply getting comfortable with the projectile in the same way that you can get comfortable with rockets - knowing the timing, speed, angle, etc. Also for mge, if you don't have anyone to play, play badlands mid. Otherwise do ammomod or no splash to help with directs because that's where waddling is most prevalent.[/quote]
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