Alright I'll see what I can do.

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Wait the same thing happened to us, I think we're that other team. They apparently also just got a forfeit win against us on the same night as you guys, which was a day before the we re-re-scheduled our game to. I don't want to jump to any jump to any conclusions, but this shit seems a lot like a forfeit snipe. We don't even know how they rescheduled the match again without us knowing.

Edit: Check out their team's last two matches https://play.esea.net/teams/8725539

Edit 2: Take a minute to message tri if you see this to help us and scratch's team out, because we're unsure that he'll re-set up the matches so we can play fairly. Hope you guys can understand what it feels like to pay to play in a league where the other team just lies to get a win against you without even playing.

here are the chat logs from our team leader with their team leader.
https://imgur.com/a/JZ0Tv34
this is really sketchy

u can do scratchh dirty all u want, but when u come for ChaseDuck it is personal..

most open players who do shit like this never leave open

Our team leader is either being dishonest and unsportsmanlike, or is extremely bad at scheduling and leading a team. Either way, I feel like he hasn't been communicating very well with both his own team and the other team leaders. In the steam chat above, he says that Saturday at 10:30 is OK, despite the fact that he should have known that at least one of us wouldn't be able to make that time. He then either rejected the offer or never made one, I'm assuming making no further attempts at communication.

At this point I can't really tell if he's doing this intentionally or just trying to take advantage of all these misunderstandings. No matter what reason all this happened, however, trying to get a forfeit win out of it is really dishonest.

At least half of us are interested in rescheduling, and if nothing comes of it we'll probably just end up leaving the team, I personally don't want to be associated with this kind of drama.

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ya same here

i feel like tf2 is not this complicated. if both teams can agree on a day to play with 6 players per team, don't ffw each other and play the game. if you can't agree on a time, one or both teams probably have too much going on irl and outside tf2 to commit to a season.

he's a scum fuck for being dishonest. and it definitely won't get him far in any regard. I am glad his teammates understand the issues and are willing to not play with him if he keeps being dishonest.

You not handling the organization of your match as a leader/scheduler is your fault. If he makes an initial offer and you don't respond and let it auto accept after 24 hours, that's kinda on you for not responding to his request. Making sure everything is official and on the site is very important because once he gets his offer through it's up to his discretion to change things or not, and a non-official proof like a steam text chat in most cases isn't going to save you. Those are the rules esea has in place so matches can be scheduled while still keeping it misunderstanding free and they haven't changed the rules in a very long time so I don't see why you think this is some bs that tri is giving you. Spamming tri with messages isn't going to make him not follow esea's clear-cut system.

edit: all of this is clearly outlined in ESEA's rules btw so there shouldn't be any complaint...

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im a jew and have never scummed 4 a forfeit win in my life pls dont lump me in with this :)

Pretty sure if you took that screenshot before the match it would look more like this: https://prnt.sc/l2ydhj
Meaning you took that picture after you got the ffl. If you really did check the page before the match, it would say something along the lines of "Fri, Oct 5th at 9:30pm". Also, that -1:-8:-58 represents how long the match lasted and since you never played the match it would do some weird shit probably. You should always double check no matter what the leader of another team tells you the match time is. It was your fault as a captain/scheduler for not checking the match time that your team got the ffl even if they do some scummy shit for a ffw.

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So our match is likely going to be rescheduled, I just talked to fail safe's team leader about it and he said they had a miscommunication with our match between their leader and their scheduler. So no intentional forfeit sniping against us according to them.

Here are the chat logs: https://i.imgur.com/iQ067Lh.jpg

-azion also got a reply from tri earlier that said this:

triToday at 3:46 PM
if both teams agree then you can play
just do it on the match page

Everything seems like it'll be ok for us, hopefully something can get worked out with Scratch too.

Edit: wording

can we all put our open level egos aside and remember we are all in open. Seriously if y'all are trying to get ffws in open then you need to go back to ugc. ESEA is a paid service, therefore you should want to maximize the amount of time you play.

but that's just me...

i think this is one of the only times i have upvoted scratch

the only reason to ffw literally every possible team u can is so ur open record looks better, but it literally says 2-0 so everyone will know u just ffw every team possible. it just makes u look worse and isnt worth it

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bro its so easy just like play the game lmao

https://i.imgur.com/rKzm2ZV.jpg

yo does anyone know the half life no life squads? we are supposed to play a match and they aren't showing

alright we are virgin ff

https://i.imgur.com/rkxio3B.png

every time i see this i wonder if the goat is wearing a diaper. i think it is. and that actually is surprisingly sensible from canseco

Thank god Tery was ever vigilant in watching the times/days these guys were trying to schedule matches.

happy thanksgiving @other canadians

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time for a mutiny @fail safe

what the yikes