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Kev gets vac-banned for cheating in a match, no one cares

People play with recently vac banned player, no one cares

You guys really don't care about that sort of thing?

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Well, at least be pissed off for one. Just shrugging it off like it's not a big deal because you feel powerless just enables that attitude even more. In fact feeling powerless should make you even more pissed off.

EDIT: By "enables that attitude even more" I mean makes it even easier for people to feel okay for cheating.

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u play on a team with a player who admitted to cheating in lobbies (habib)

perhaps u could make a stand?

says the person playing with 4 im players and the rest having open playoffs exp
stop trying to take the high ground lnao

Ok so a lot of mistakes made on my part here but first thing first, I didn't cheat

Like over a year ago I played on a steel hl team with funny bunny and he asked me for an alt's info so he can play lobbies cuz he's banned on his main and my alt had over 300 hours on it. He got that banned on tf2center as well but I never changed the account info.

As you guys prolly know, he also got banned from DM servers and AS mge for hacking. This was all after going on that account and using free lmaobox because he didn't have premium at the time. He got that alt banned within like 5 minutes.

Since everyone on our team are just using alts I decided to also do that with said alt account. Literally on the day of our match I tried to log in to that account and found out that it was vac'd and had to make a new one.

So yeah I'm a retard for having this happen in the first place but I'm sure there are a lot of people who can testify that I'm not a hacker.

TLDR friend got my account vac'd and I didn't realize while making that esea alt

anyone who thinks msh cheated before is dead from the neck up lol

if u think msh is cheating or has cheated ur more braindead than msh is
also i can confirm that funny bunny has access to that account and that account got vac'd cuz of him

now can we get back to there being 2 invite players on an open team

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if u found out who was on that team from the alts couldn't u just have found out who owned the vac'd alt too

If your cheat you're trash and if you play Open as an Invite level player you're the human equivalent of a garbage can. Apply yourself.

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honestly i forgot this team existed but ur right

no i really couldnt have i literally only figured out who the alts were based on scrim logs and msh hadnt scrimmed with them but continue jumping to comclusions

they are literally fresh blank private accounts if you can figure out who owns one of those please share your methods

It's not up to the players in our leagues to police other players. It has never been up to the players regarding cheaters.
The blame and/or action required always needs to come from the league and the admins that allow known cheaters to play in league settings.

This exact discussion has happened several times in the past with the same culprits and the same lame excuses to legitimize a cheater. (He didn't cheat at LAN, etc)

I have over 20 years of online gaming experience and in all the communities I have participated in, the TF2 community is by far the most lax concerning cheaters that I have ever experienced.

tf2 is so hard

I talk about his shady past pretty frequently and still question him sometimes. There is a kind of well viewed clip of me iirc of me questioning habib as recently as last year. Even though him and I are pretty close friends, I still hold this greatly against him and have talked about it and still make mentions of this. Him and I being teammates does not mean I forgive him for his past decisions either in that regard.

I cannot make decisions against cheaters personally by myself, just like any of you guys. But I am pissed off about it. I am still pissed off at habib for choosing to do that.

lol

Its easy don't play with cheaters, if everyone just didn't accept them and exiled from every team they tried to join we would be cheater free. Because who wants to play with a cheater.

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PunOko Cheaters PunOko
I agree cheating is wrong and people who cheat will always have that as apart of their reputation. I had to quit playing tf2 for about a year until I realized I had made a terrible mistake and came back to play IM scout made top 4 playoffs. I continued to improve because this game the only way to improve is by putting in time and effort. Knowing my reputation was now branded as a cheater because of doing well in open right before I started cheating the next season people question my skill as a player and probably still do. I got lucky enough to get on a team after not playing for a full season for like four seasons ( shoutouts to vaati, azn,Nate,megawac, and sideways).
I had to play cs go and overwatch to fill the tf2 void for a year and I can tell you I've never been so mad at a video game than playing esea pugs and overwatch ranked. After getting to A rank after months of cs dealing with all the chimps from D rank to B rank then getting rolled each pug because of the matchmaking in pugs being questionable( I got matched up against two pros queuing and Stanislaw twice in one day) almost made me pop a vein. Then overwatch was the new big game at the time of my VACation I decided to try it out for fun eventually becoming good enough to make GM. I am a very competitive player and have some temper issues, so you know the journey wasn't always fun. The season I was about to get GM I was at 3993-3999 like seven times and kept getting some mouth breathing simian saying today's the day symmetra will win on attack on hanamura (or another two cp aids map before symmetra was good). Once I got to GM, I realized how aids the game was I put it down and thought about TF2. I never get as angry, I enjoy playing, and there isn't a specific set of team comps that need to be performed to win.
So I ate my 1-year ban for cheating suffered rat aids from playing those two games, and I can tell you I regret cheating as much as I regret yelling " YOU DUMB Trihard GET OFF SYMMETRA" or " Do you ride the short bus to school fucking hold A stop running in on CT!. Took years off my life and a year of playing a game I always find enjoyable.
As for sandbaggers yeah it sucks and has been a trend for a long time. I want everyone who isn't a sandbagger and has to deal with them in open or IM to know you guys are great never feel down about losing to some ape who came down to play ....when he can apparently play ... Remember if you take a round or 2 off them being new players they fucking blow and or you are just getting better two things that people should be happy about because sandbagging probably won't stop. Invite can be exhausting to play if you only get rolled and maybe that player got good enough that the other divisions will be more comfortable. Like not making playoffs directly from just barely not being good enough or not being good enough to place higher than 9th is fucking aids. I don't have to imagine that but you guys try doing so, and this is what leads people to dodge invite or going let's play open or IM with my friends for whatever reason. So next time you play a sandbagging team at the end of the season if you place lower than them move yourself up a slot because that's what you should have placed if your new. Now if you've been playing open or IM for 20 decades longer than my HENTAI list I have to be harder on you GET BETTER and stop complaining AND USING EXCUSES. I put a lot of time in and effort before and after I cheated so if an ex-cheating rat ape can make invite pretty sure anyone can if they try.
(Open nerd essay checked off wheres the bingo sheet at boys)
Yours Truly, Rat

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Weekend Open Power Rankings Vol. 2, Feb. 10
Updated every weekend (Posted sometime between Friday and Monday)

#1 Snore (8-0): These players are very good at Team Fortress 2.

#2 The Boomers (8-0): Their recent roster shake-up that involved picking up another great soldier and moving John Milter to demoman is most likely a small bump in the road to the finals. Overall, I'm not sure if The Boomers or Snore should have the number 1 spot, but I don't think it really matters too much. The Boomers have more former invite players, but Snore has kept a more consistent roster throughout the season, so it's hard to say which one is better until they face each other.

#3 Simian Aggression (8-0): In a battle of mammalian themed teams, Simian Aggression came out on
top with a clear cut 5-1 victory over Hostile Hamster Date Night. Can they beat The Boomers/Snore?
I'm already making enough questionable predictions so I'm going to make the safe pick and keep them
just below until they play each other a week and a half from now. (+1)

#4 Hostile Hamster Date Night (7-1): Although they lost to Simian Aggression, I don't see any reason to move
them down further than 4th considering Simian Aggression is a great team. (-1)

#5 Enoch eSports (7-0): As smesi said last week, "enoch is better than 7th". They looked great in their wins over Good Damage 2 and Plumpwench. I don't know much about this team's players individually, but their results speak for themselves. (+2)

#6 5Head (7-1): This past week, they haven't really done anything to move themselves up, but regardless,
they took care of business and won both matches that they were expected to win, and a few other teams dropping has moved them up slightly by default. While I can't hold it against them if they lose to The Boomers, their two matches after that against the similarly ranked Gjohnce and Enjoy Freezing will be a good indicator
of where their skill level is at following the recent replacement of Tiller. (+2)

#7 Enjoy Freezing (7-1): I'm not sure where to put this team (or really any team apparently considering
the last post is sitting at -12 frags). They keep winning, but they aren't running through people as easily as expected. (-2)

#8 Gjohnce (6-2): Similar to 5Head, Gjohnce has moved up mostly just because other teams dropped a bit.
Their most notable match this week against Carrier Penguins ended up dragging on to a 2-3 loss on
Metalworks. Still, in spite of it being a loss, the match was pretty much dead even with the frags
being tied 162-162 and the Ubercharges tied at 22-22. I'm still ranking them a little above
Carrier Penguins since Gjohnce has looked slightly more consistent throughout the season. (+2)

#9 Good Damage 2 (4-4): This team was cursed with a tough schedule this week and got soundly beaten in both games (Enoch and Snore). Despite a .500 record, I still think this team is better than the numbers show. (-3)

#10 The N-Word Free Zone (6-2): In their one match this week, they looked great with two players dealing 350+ damage per minute in a 5-1 victory. Additionally, their win over Team Win Steel looks a lot better in hindsight considering that team has looked hot recently (more on that later). (+1)

#11 Carrier Penguins (6-2): I wasn't sure if I should have moved Gjohnce down, or Carrier Penguins up
based on the result of their match, but fuck it who really cares. Now that we're at the midpoint of the season, we'll have plenty of more important match-ups coming soon that'll paint a clearer picture of who belongs where (and probably make some of these placements look kind of dumb). (+5)

#12 Lion Coalition (4-4): No real surprises here. Both of their matches went as expected; they got rolled by a top open team then rolled a low open team. Like Good Damage 2, their record at mid-season is an even 4-4, so the next several matches against other mid open teams are must wins in order to stay in playoff contention.

#13 Home Run Thomas (6-2): Home Run Thomas stayed at home this week (FFW only), so they aren't moving
up or down.

#14 Team Win Steel (6-2): The legendary team that never actually played in UGC Steel has fought hard to claw their way into playoff spot contention over the last week and a half. Their matches haven't been
easy, but nonetheless, they've been able to pickup three wins in a row versus some respectable mid open teams
(Toaster in the Bath, Portland Burnsiders, Hugs and Kisses). Sakujake pounded hard in their last match vs. Hugs and Kisses, putting out 451 damage per minute on soldier. (+3)

#15 Toaster in the Bath (5-2): I still don't really know too much about this team. They
still seem solid in spite of the recent loss and roster shake up. (-1)

#16 Portland Burnsiders (4-3): Picking the last spot was tough, but in spite of an average record, I think the
Burnsiders' consistent performance against mid level competition has earned them their ranking. They even managed
to take a few rounds off The Boomers which is a good sign. (+1)

Honorable Mentions (All considered #17 for the sake of +/- movement.)

Plumpwench (5-3): As mentioned above, it's a hard fight for the last few playoff spots.
With Plumpwench's recent loss 1-4 to Eternal Phoenix Cult on Product, I felt like the Portland Burnsiders
deserved the #16 spot more. While losing in that fashion isn't a great sign for their chances of making playoffs,
perhaps they're just not comfortable on Product since it's such a unique map. (-2)

Hugs and Kisses (5-3): This week, Hugs and Kisses came into what I believed to be fairly equal matchups versus Team Win Steel and The N-Word Free Zone. However, they ended up dropping both matches 5-1. Their record stands at 5-3 right now, so they're still in the running to make playoffs if they can rally back and get wins over Plumpwench and Nav eSports in the coming week. (-8)

There We Go (5-2): There We Go has yet to be truly tested against the top teams of the division, so in spite of their good record, it's hard to know what level they're at right now. I suspect that they deserve to be ranked in
the low teens at least, but for now I'll tentatively put them in the honorable mentions until more evidence is available. (New)

General Nick (4-4) (Formerly Gameing Esports)

Keyboard Lords (4-4) (New)

Mr Popo is a Snitch (4-4)

Disclaimer (again): This was written by a sub-open shitlord who once got cut for putting out 96 DPM in a match
so don't take my opinions too seriously.