Now that Lan is over and done with, I've watched back the stream and I have to say that was the best Lan I've ever been a part of. Casting Lan is such an eye opener for how amazing our community is and I loved all the feedback I got at lan. As no one is perfect and I'm very aware of this, I wondered if I could get any feedback from this Lan. Having to cast only from the stream feed instead of a bird's eye view that I control is a big change and was interesting to adjust to but i didn't feel like it was too much of a hindrance.
So any feedback good or bad as long as you want to help me grow will be appreciated.
Much love GrumpyKoi
Now that Lan is over and done with, I've watched back the stream and I have to say that was the best Lan I've ever been a part of. Casting Lan is such an eye opener for how amazing our community is and I loved all the feedback I got at lan. As no one is perfect and I'm very aware of this, I wondered if I could get any feedback from this Lan. Having to cast only from the stream feed instead of a bird's eye view that I control is a big change and was interesting to adjust to but i didn't feel like it was too much of a hindrance.
So any feedback good or bad as long as you want to help me grow will be appreciated.
Much love GrumpyKoi
idk anything about casting but it looked great to me :)
idk anything about casting but it looked great to me :)
Wingmannidk anything about casting but it looked great to me :)
Thanks man :)
[quote=Wingmann]idk anything about casting but it looked great to me :)[/quote]
Thanks man :)
Watched a few VODs. It's all good bro, talked about it with you on the saturday I like ur casting. U made a gaffe where u said I had been playing around high for a while even tho I have a season each in Div2 and Div1. Once TF2 becomes an e-sport u'll have fact checkers tho so no biggie ;)
Find it very admirable that ur always on the hunt for feedback. Keep it up!
Watched a few VODs. It's all good bro, talked about it with you on the saturday I like ur casting. U made a gaffe where u said I had been playing around high for a while even tho I have a season each in Div2 and Div1. Once TF2 becomes an e-sport u'll have fact checkers tho so no biggie ;)
Find it very admirable that ur always on the hunt for feedback. Keep it up!
MakWatched a few VODs. It's all good bro, talked about it with you on the saturday I like ur casting. U made a gaffe where u said I had been playing around high for a while even tho I have a season each in Div2 and Div1. Once TF2 becomes an e-sport u'll have fact checkers tho so no biggie ;)
Yea there's so many players that I need to just read up on and check their etf2l profiles. So my bad on that it's still better than saying "yep mak plays TF2"
[quote=Mak]Watched a few VODs. It's all good bro, talked about it with you on the saturday I like ur casting. U made a gaffe where u said I had been playing around high for a while even tho I have a season each in Div2 and Div1. Once TF2 becomes an e-sport u'll have fact checkers tho so no biggie ;)[/quote]
Yea there's so many players that I need to just read up on and check their etf2l profiles. So my bad on that it's still better than saying "yep mak plays TF2"
I got to listen to unfortunately very little of you this LAN, but I did get a chance to do that warmup cast the first evening.
First of all, you've gotten infinitely better than the first time I saw you, and infinitely better than the most recent time I'd seen you cast. I was blown away by you this event. Keep up the good work. Things I've noticed you've improved is your handoff game. Was a bit sloppy at first and now it's one of your strengths.
As for feedback, you can occasionally fall into the trap of a lot of casters of not leaving an extra gear for hype. I always try to leave a little space for more hype so that when it comes to the big winning moment of a LAN I have that last gear to push my hype higher than any other point in the game outside of one or two miracle plays. Just something to think about, what can you do with your volume and hype level to seperate that incredible airshot and a walk off win in a golden cap in an elimination game?
Keep up the incredible work.
I got to listen to unfortunately very little of you this LAN, but I did get a chance to do that warmup cast the first evening.
First of all, you've gotten infinitely better than the first time I saw you, and infinitely better than the most recent time I'd seen you cast. I was blown away by you this event. Keep up the good work. Things I've noticed you've improved is your handoff game. Was a bit sloppy at first and now it's one of your strengths.
As for feedback, you can occasionally fall into the trap of a lot of casters of not leaving an extra gear for hype. I always try to leave a little space for more hype so that when it comes to the big winning moment of a LAN I have that last gear to push my hype higher than any other point in the game outside of one or two miracle plays. Just something to think about, what can you do with your volume and hype level to seperate that incredible airshot and a walk off win in a golden cap in an elimination game?
Keep up the incredible work.
DreamboatI got to listen to unfortunately very little of you this LAN, but I did get a chance to do that warmup cast the first evening.
First of all, you've gotten infinitely better than the first time I saw you, and infinitely better than the most recent time I'd seen you cast. I was blown away by you this event. Keep up the good work. Things I've noticed you've improved is your handoff game. Was a bit sloppy at first and now it's one of your strengths.
As for feedback, you can occasionally fall into the trap of a lot of casters of not leaving an extra gear for hype. I always try to leave a little space for more hype so that when it comes to the big winning moment of a LAN I have that last gear to push my hype higher than any other point in the game outside of one or two miracle plays. Just something to think about, what can you do with your volume and hype level to seperate that incredible airshot and a walk off win in a golden cap in an elimination game?
Keep up the incredible work.
Thanks man I will work on my pacing :)
Much love dreamboat
[quote=Dreamboat]I got to listen to unfortunately very little of you this LAN, but I did get a chance to do that warmup cast the first evening.
First of all, you've gotten infinitely better than the first time I saw you, and infinitely better than the most recent time I'd seen you cast. I was blown away by you this event. Keep up the good work. Things I've noticed you've improved is your handoff game. Was a bit sloppy at first and now it's one of your strengths.
As for feedback, you can occasionally fall into the trap of a lot of casters of not leaving an extra gear for hype. I always try to leave a little space for more hype so that when it comes to the big winning moment of a LAN I have that last gear to push my hype higher than any other point in the game outside of one or two miracle plays. Just something to think about, what can you do with your volume and hype level to seperate that incredible airshot and a walk off win in a golden cap in an elimination game?
Keep up the incredible work.[/quote]
Thanks man I will work on my pacing :)
Much love dreamboat
You say unable to do so really often in your casts apart from that your casting was great.
You say unable to do so really often in your casts apart from that your casting was great.
youve improved a lot since iseries
youve improved a lot since iseries
Previously I felt that you would sometimes not know what to talk about and you would just start saying something to fill the airwaves, but you weren't really going anywhere with it and it would become kind of incoherent. I get that it's hard to keep talking when there are delays or when nothing is happening in the game. Not everyone can naturally poop out an hour of relevant, semi-interesting analysis bullshit about a game like Eepily and Nuze can. At this LAN I don't really recall any of those incoherent moments; in fact, I remember a few times where you pointed out something important that was happening off camera which might not have been immediately obvious, or when you pointed out some things about the match-up in pre-game which the audience might not be aware of.
I often feel that it's better for most casters to just look at the stream, because then you are merely focusing on what the audience can see. If you miss something that the observer also missed, the audience didn't see it anyway, so no-one will notice that you didn't point it out. It's much worse to miss something like a drop for 30 seconds because you were looking at your own free cam for example, because part of the audience will absolutely notice that. The only reason to use free cam as a caster is if you have very good game sense(played the game at a high level before becoming a caster) and you can help the observer select the right POV or make the audience aware of a crucial win condition before the fight or pick actually happens.
Previously I felt that you would sometimes not know what to talk about and you would just start saying something to fill the airwaves, but you weren't really going anywhere with it and it would become kind of incoherent. I get that it's hard to keep talking when there are delays or when nothing is happening in the game. Not everyone can naturally poop out an hour of relevant, semi-interesting analysis bullshit about a game like Eepily and Nuze can. At this LAN I don't really recall any of those incoherent moments; in fact, I remember a few times where you pointed out something important that was happening off camera which might not have been immediately obvious, or when you pointed out some things about the match-up in pre-game which the audience might not be aware of.
I often feel that it's better for most casters to just look at the stream, because then you are merely focusing on what the audience can see. If you miss something that the observer also missed, the audience didn't see it anyway, so no-one will notice that you didn't point it out. It's much worse to miss something like a drop for 30 seconds because you were looking at your own free cam for example, because part of the audience will absolutely notice that. The only reason to use free cam as a caster is if you have very good game sense(played the game at a high level before becoming a caster) and you can help the observer select the right POV or make the audience aware of a crucial win condition before the fight or pick actually happens.
Osiris The only reason to use free cam as a caster is if you have very good game sense(played the game at a high level before becoming a caster) and you can help the observer select the right POV or make the audience aware of a crucial win condition before the fight or pick actually happens.
I highly highly disagree. At lan we have the luxury of going off the observers feed, but that still is a detriment at times. With freecam you can see how a fight is forming, where both teams are holding and get a sense of how you want to call a fight. Additionally, when doing stuff from home, trying to do your own observing in first person can heavily hinder casting. With first person, rather than focusing 98% on casting like you can with freecam, you focus 50% on casting and 50% on observing so you actually catch stuff to cast. At lan from the first person feed you still focus 98% on casting because you get what the observer does in real time. No decisions to make. Unfortunately we don't get the observer feed when we cast online stuff.
[quote=Osiris] The only reason to use free cam as a caster is if you have very good game sense(played the game at a high level before becoming a caster) and you can help the observer select the right POV or make the audience aware of a crucial win condition before the fight or pick actually happens.[/quote]
I highly highly disagree. At lan we have the luxury of going off the observers feed, but that still is a detriment at times. With freecam you can see how a fight is forming, where both teams are holding and get a sense of how you want to call a fight. Additionally, when doing stuff from home, trying to do your own observing in first person can heavily hinder casting. With first person, rather than focusing 98% on casting like you can with freecam, you focus 50% on casting and 50% on observing so you actually catch stuff to cast. At lan from the first person feed you still focus 98% on casting because you get what the observer does in real time. No decisions to make. Unfortunately we don't get the observer feed when we cast online stuff.
You seem a natural now mate.
You seem a natural now mate.
Really liked watching you cast, especially with Beater. It felt like you two had really good synergy at LAN.
You improved a lot in the last few months! :)
Only thing I didn't like too much was that you say "He read the situation perfectly" a bit too much
Really liked watching you cast, especially with Beater. It felt like you two had really good synergy at LAN.
You improved a lot in the last few months! :)
Only thing I didn't like too much was that you say "He read the situation perfectly" a bit too much
Dreamboat Unfortunately we don't get the observer feed when we cast online stuff.
thats what you think ;)
[quote=Dreamboat] Unfortunately we don't get the observer feed when we cast online stuff.[/quote]
thats what you think ;)
GrumpyKoiDreamboat Unfortunately we don't get the observer feed when we cast online stuff.
thats what you think ;)
Oh shit is that changing? That's sick. Didn't have it for ESEA or ozf last season so I assumed we still didn't.
[quote=GrumpyKoi][quote=Dreamboat] Unfortunately we don't get the observer feed when we cast online stuff.[/quote]
thats what you think ;)[/quote]
Oh shit is that changing? That's sick. Didn't have it for ESEA or ozf last season so I assumed we still didn't.
OsirisPreviously I felt that you would sometimes not know what to talk about and you would just start saying something to fill the airwaves, but you weren't really going anywhere with it and it would become kind of incoherent. I get that it's hard to keep talking when there are delays or when nothing is happening in the game. Not everyone can naturally poop out an hour of relevant, semi-interesting analysis bullshit about a game like Eepily and Nuze can. At this LAN I don't really recall any of those incoherent moments; in fact, I remember a few times where you pointed out something important that was happening off camera which might not have been immediately obvious, or when you pointed out some things about the match-up in pre-game which the audience might not be aware of.
Thanks man I had that feedback before so I'm glad someone picked up on the fact I worked on it :).
[quote=Osiris]Previously I felt that you would sometimes not know what to talk about and you would just start saying something to fill the airwaves, but you weren't really going anywhere with it and it would become kind of incoherent. I get that it's hard to keep talking when there are delays or when nothing is happening in the game. Not everyone can naturally poop out an hour of relevant, semi-interesting analysis bullshit about a game like Eepily and Nuze can. At this LAN I don't really recall any of those incoherent moments; in fact, I remember a few times where you pointed out something important that was happening off camera which might not have been immediately obvious, or when you pointed out some things about the match-up in pre-game which the audience might not be aware of. [/quote]
Thanks man I had that feedback before so I'm glad someone picked up on the fact I worked on it :).
DreamboatGrumpyKoiDreamboat Unfortunately we don't get the observer feed when we cast online stuff.
thats what you think ;)
Oh shit is that changing? That's sick. Didn't have it for ESEA or ozf last season so I assumed we still didn't.
We have some brains in tf2 that's all I'm saying ATM
[quote=Dreamboat][quote=GrumpyKoi][quote=Dreamboat] Unfortunately we don't get the observer feed when we cast online stuff.[/quote]
thats what you think ;)[/quote]
Oh shit is that changing? That's sick. Didn't have it for ESEA or ozf last season so I assumed we still didn't.[/quote]
We have some brains in tf2 that's all I'm saying ATM
Have a +rep as repayment for ur back massage. Seriously though i think u did good
Have a +rep as repayment for ur back massage. Seriously though i think u did good