Since the creation of RGL, back in 2017, we've had a few different fees. We've had the division fee (which is half of the league fee) and the team fee (which is the other half of the fee.) The idea was that you pay the division fee one time, and you'd pay the team join fee anytime you switched teams. To disincentivize players from switching teams. This structure that we've had for over two years now has never really been tested fully. Our paid leagues have been generally only been to our Invite divisions, where there wasn't much team switching. Now that we've had our sixes league that is truly testing our payment system, it's become apparent that this thought process is flawed. Though bringing in extra money to grow the prize pool is great, the pain of having to pay partial fees again is not fair. RGL is about listening to our community and it's clear that this decision that we made 2 years ago was incorrect and we will be removing all fees related to switching teams effective immediately and will be refunding anyone who's paid these fees.
Also to explain what the Free Agent teams are. Free Agent teams are a place for players to register in RGL who do not have a team, but are eligible to play in an RGL match. For instance if you leave a team, you are placed onto the Free Agent team becuase you no longer have a team. If you sub for a team, but cannot join their roster, you can register as a Free Agent to be a legal ringer. Free Agent cost is half of whatever the current division fee is to join. If you were paid up on a team and left or were cut, then you would be on the free agent team fully paid.
Since the creation of RGL, back in 2017, we've had a few different fees. We've had the division fee (which is half of the league fee) and the team fee (which is the other half of the fee.) The idea was that you pay the division fee one time, and you'd pay the team join fee anytime you switched teams. To disincentivize players from switching teams. This structure that we've had for over two years now has never really been tested fully. Our paid leagues have been generally only been to our Invite divisions, where there wasn't much team switching. Now that we've had our sixes league that is truly testing our payment system, it's become apparent that this thought process is flawed. Though bringing in extra money to grow the prize pool is great, the pain of having to pay partial fees again is not fair. RGL is about listening to our community and it's clear that this decision that we made 2 years ago was incorrect and we will be removing all fees related to switching teams effective immediately and will be refunding anyone who's paid these fees.
Also to explain what the Free Agent teams are. Free Agent teams are a place for players to register in RGL who do not have a team, but are eligible to play in an RGL match. For instance if you leave a team, you are placed onto the Free Agent team becuase you no longer have a team. If you sub for a team, but cannot join their roster, you can register as a Free Agent to be a legal ringer. Free Agent cost is half of whatever the current division fee is to join. If you were paid up on a team and left or were cut, then you would be on the free agent team fully paid.
https://i.imgur.com/O0tQr15.png
me after i hit rgl with that cc chargeback
[img]https://i.imgur.com/O0tQr15.png[/img]
me after i hit rgl with that cc chargeback
SetsulThis is actually the great plan for better team stability. Soon kicking players will cost 20$.
I can't even make a joke. You seriously thought making team changes cost 16$ was a good idea?
[quote=Setsul]This is actually the great plan for better team stability. Soon kicking players will cost 20$.[/quote]
I can't even make a joke. You seriously thought making team changes cost 16$ was a good idea?
lucrativeNot gonna lie you guys are all misunderstanding the situation lol RGL has always had it that if you don’t have a team you may sign up and pay as a solo free agent to ether ring for teams or to make teams with other free agents. What air has discovered is the website asking him to pay as a free agent because he left a roster and is now in the free agent category. There may be some sort of bug but sigafoo has said publicly the fees will work the same as ESEA; you pay a one time fee for that division, if you move divisions you pay the fee of the new division. It is working this way and the free agent fee is not mandatory if you’re gonna end up joining a roster
this isn't me that took that screenshot, its my teams medic. He specifically said he was UNABLE to join any roster, and attempting to join a roster took him back to that page.
[quote=lucrative]Not gonna lie you guys are all misunderstanding the situation lol RGL has always had it that if you don’t have a team you may sign up and pay as a solo free agent to ether ring for teams or to make teams with other free agents. What air has discovered is the website asking him to pay as a free agent because he left a roster and is now in the free agent category. There may be some sort of bug but sigafoo has said publicly the fees will work the same as ESEA; you pay a one time fee for that division, if you move divisions you pay the fee of the new division. It is working this way and the free agent fee is not mandatory if you’re gonna end up joining a roster[/quote]
this isn't me that took that screenshot, its my teams medic. He specifically said he was UNABLE to join any roster, and attempting to join a roster took him back to that page.
Air_lucrativeNot gonna lie you guys are all misunderstanding the situation lol RGL has always had it that if you don’t have a team you may sign up and pay as a solo free agent to ether ring for teams or to make teams with other free agents. What air has discovered is the website asking him to pay as a free agent because he left a roster and is now in the free agent category. There may be some sort of bug but sigafoo has said publicly the fees will work the same as ESEA; you pay a one time fee for that division, if you move divisions you pay the fee of the new division. It is working this way and the free agent fee is not mandatory if you’re gonna end up joining a roster
this isn't me that took that screenshot, its my teams medic. He specifically said he was UNABLE to join any roster, and attempting to join a roster took him back to that page.
so its a bug, it will be fixed.
my post is just explaining how RGL works and that will still apply to tradition sixes, along with what pablo has stated above.
[quote=Air_][quote=lucrative]Not gonna lie you guys are all misunderstanding the situation lol RGL has always had it that if you don’t have a team you may sign up and pay as a solo free agent to ether ring for teams or to make teams with other free agents. What air has discovered is the website asking him to pay as a free agent because he left a roster and is now in the free agent category. There may be some sort of bug but sigafoo has said publicly the fees will work the same as ESEA; you pay a one time fee for that division, if you move divisions you pay the fee of the new division. It is working this way and the free agent fee is not mandatory if you’re gonna end up joining a roster[/quote]
this isn't me that took that screenshot, its my teams medic. He specifically said he was UNABLE to join any roster, and attempting to join a roster took him back to that page.[/quote]
so its a bug, it will be fixed.
my post is just explaining how RGL works and that will still apply to tradition sixes, along with what pablo has stated above.
"rgl_sixes_5cp_A.cfg"compctrl_strategyperiods_time "15"
Are we expected/required to have CompCtrl on our servers?
[quote="rgl_sixes_5cp_A.cfg"]compctrl_strategyperiods_time "15"[/quote]
Are we expected/required to have CompCtrl on our servers?
doesn't RGL provide match servers?
doesn't RGL provide match servers?
twiikuudoesn't RGL provide match servers?
you think i actually READ the rules? i just want upvotes bro, yawn move on.
[quote=twiikuu]doesn't RGL provide match servers?[/quote]
you think i actually READ the rules? i just want upvotes bro, yawn move on.
i dont agree with this....
i dont agree with this....
Any hope for a deadline extension? I’m gonna assume nay. . .
Any hope for a deadline extension? I’m gonna assume nay. . .
twiikuudoesn't RGL provide match servers?
Seems as though the rules page was updated between my original post and this one.
RGL has the ability to provide servers to all teams inside of paid divisions. If your team needs a server to play on, please request one from the RGL staff. We can also provide servers to free divisions (Open,) but cannot guarantee a server due to the size of the division.
The home team is expected to secure a server for the match. You can also rent TF2 servers through na.serveme.tf. If you want to purchase a server, we suggest using TragicServers.com, with promocode RGL30.
Though, I guess the question still somewhat stands.
[quote=twiikuu]doesn't RGL provide match servers?[/quote]
Seems as though the rules page was updated between my original post and this one.
[quote]RGL has the ability to provide servers to all teams inside of paid divisions. If your team needs a server to play on, please request one from the RGL staff. We can also provide servers to free divisions (Open,) but cannot guarantee a server due to the size of the division.
The home team is expected to secure a server for the match. You can also rent TF2 servers through na.serveme.tf. If you want to purchase a server, we suggest using TragicServers.com, with promocode RGL30.
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Though, I guess the question still [i]somewhat[/i] stands.
SquidamatronThough, I guess the question still somewhat stands.
no it doesnt whatsoever but ok dude sure
[quote=Squidamatron]Though, I guess the question still [i]somewhat[/i] stands.[/quote]
no it doesnt whatsoever but ok dude sure
mustardoverlordAny hope for a deadline extension? I’m gonna assume nay. . .
judging by current discussions in discord we will likely be extending the deadline but you didn’t hear it from me
(this doesn’t mean you shouldn’t try to get paid up as soon as you can)
[quote=mustardoverlord]Any hope for a deadline extension? I’m gonna assume nay. . .[/quote]
judging by current discussions in discord we will likely be extending the deadline but you didn’t hear it from me
(this doesn’t mean you shouldn’t try to get paid up as soon as you can)
I love when you give us a deadline to be paid up for that is so soon that we have to scramble to get teams together and end up with really volatile teams that have now paid up in accordance with your retardedly short time window and are going to have to pay again if their teams fall apart, and now we get a middle finger for meeting your fuck awful deadline.
I love when you give us a deadline to be paid up for that is so soon that we have to scramble to get teams together and end up with really volatile teams that have now paid up in accordance with your retardedly short time window and are going to have to pay again if their teams fall apart, and now we get a middle finger for meeting your fuck awful deadline.
GrapeJuiceIIImustardoverlordAny hope for a deadline extension? I’m gonna assume nay. . .
judging by current discussions in discord we will likely be extending the deadline but you didn’t hear it from me
(this doesn’t mean you shouldn’t try to get paid up as soon as you can)
Don't Think. Just Pay Our Fees... Yeeeees....
[quote=GrapeJuiceIII][quote=mustardoverlord]Any hope for a deadline extension? I’m gonna assume nay. . .[/quote]
judging by current discussions in discord we will likely be extending the deadline but you didn’t hear it from me
(this doesn’t mean you shouldn’t try to get paid up as soon as you can)[/quote]
Don't Think. Just Pay Our Fees... Yeeeees....
GrapeJuiceIIImustardoverlordAny hope for a deadline extension? I’m gonna assume nay. . .
judging by current discussions in discord we will likely be extending the deadline but you didn’t hear it from me
(this doesn’t mean you shouldn’t try to get paid up as soon as you can)
yo fyi that's such a terrible thing to say publically because now if you don't you look incompetent or like assholes
it's not useful to anyone. "this might happen but please act exactly like it won't"
[quote=GrapeJuiceIII][quote=mustardoverlord]Any hope for a deadline extension? I’m gonna assume nay. . .[/quote]
judging by current discussions in discord we will likely be extending the deadline but you didn’t hear it from me
(this doesn’t mean you shouldn’t try to get paid up as soon as you can)[/quote]
yo fyi that's such a terrible thing to say publically because now if you don't you look incompetent or like assholes
it's not useful to anyone. "this might happen but please act exactly like it won't"
gemmGrapeJuiceIIImustardoverlordAny hope for a deadline extension? I’m gonna assume nay. . .
judging by current discussions in discord we will likely be extending the deadline but you didn’t hear it from me
(this doesn’t mean you shouldn’t try to get paid up as soon as you can)
yo fyi that's such a terrible thing to say publically because now if you don't you look incompetent or like assholes
it's not useful to anyone. "this might happen but please act exactly like it won't"
yea no offense to u grape but anyone who runs stuff like this should know already know you can't say this sorta stuff lol
[quote=gemm][quote=GrapeJuiceIII][quote=mustardoverlord]Any hope for a deadline extension? I’m gonna assume nay. . .[/quote]
judging by current discussions in discord we will likely be extending the deadline but you didn’t hear it from me
(this doesn’t mean you shouldn’t try to get paid up as soon as you can)[/quote]
yo fyi that's such a terrible thing to say publically because now if you don't you look incompetent or like assholes
it's not useful to anyone. "this might happen but please act exactly like it won't"[/quote]
yea no offense to u grape but anyone who runs stuff like this should know already know you can't say this sorta stuff lol
Why is an intermediate player the admin for main
Why is an intermediate player the admin for main
dbkWhy is an intermediate player the admin for main
i would imagine because they (a) don't want people admining their own div and (b) no one else was available
[quote=dbk]Why is an intermediate player the admin for main[/quote]
i would imagine because they (a) don't want people admining their own div and (b) no one else was available
aieradbkWhy is an intermediate player the admin for main
i would imagine because they (a) don't want people admining their own div and (b) no one else was available
i completely understand not wanting someone from that div, but i feel like theres at least one advanced/invite player who's up for the task. I fear having any decisions made about my team by a player with 0 prior seasons of 6s experience outside of UGC.
[quote=aiera][quote=dbk]Why is an intermediate player the admin for main[/quote]
i would imagine because they (a) don't want people admining their own div and (b) no one else was available[/quote]
i completely understand not wanting someone from that div, but i feel like theres at least one advanced/invite player who's up for the task. I fear having any decisions made about my team by a player with 0 prior seasons of 6s experience outside of UGC.
surely someone ELSE is willing to volunteer their freetime rgl just WANTS an inexperienced admin
i'm sure we'll do fine lmao chill
surely someone ELSE is willing to volunteer their freetime rgl just WANTS an inexperienced admin
i'm sure we'll do fine lmao chill
3-ish hours to have 6 players paid/on roster
3-ish hours to have 6 players paid/on roster
ETA on the schedules being released ?
ETA on the schedules being released ?
who verified me as safrix
my name is literally deceive on everything else
who verified me as safrix
my name is literally deceive on everything else
i understand wanting uniformity in names but if he swaps alias and keeps it consistant for months (like he has been) i think its wild that yall are gonna do him dirty like this
(especially when one of ur admins is doing the same thing LMAO)
i understand wanting uniformity in names but if he swaps alias and keeps it consistant for months (like he has been) i think its wild that yall are gonna do him dirty like this
(especially when one of ur admins is doing the same thing LMAO)