Why crossbow is bad for TF2

#61

Brock

-4 Frags – +

The answer is only arrow people in motion, if you can, if you really need too. And I’ve thought about this answer a lot, because I’m gunna focus more on beaming players and being aware of projectiles coming at me so I can surf them. Aka use arrows rarely when really needed in 6s

As for Highlander, that crap runs on arrows thanks to snipers

The answer is only arrow people in motion, if you can, if you really need too. And I’ve thought about this answer a lot, because I’m gunna focus more on beaming players and being aware of projectiles coming at me so I can surf them. Aka use arrows rarely when really needed in 6s

As for Highlander, that crap runs on arrows thanks to snipers

#62

klassy

6 Frags – +

sageif people take longer to kill it slows down gameplay, thats my point.

i think you're confusing longer teamfights with stalemates, if anything removing the crossbow will most likely make players play more baity and incentivize leaving fights to re-heal as unrav mentioned earlier.

[quote=sage]if people take longer to kill it slows down gameplay, thats my point.[/quote]

i think you're confusing longer teamfights with stalemates, if anything removing the crossbow will most likely make players play more baity and incentivize leaving fights to re-heal as unrav mentioned earlier.

#63

Tino_

3 Frags – +

Ban the bow and #bringbackgpit

See you in 3 months when we do this again.

Ban the bow and #bringbackgpit

See you in 3 months when we do this again.

#64

BumFreeze

6 Frags – +

sageEliminates weapon variety: Its so good that all the other primaries are considered "trolling"

currently the same for every 6s weapon slot in the game except maybe soldier melees and secondaries

sageViewlock: While medigun lets you look around while healing, crossbow forces you to place your crosshair at your teammate and lose situational awareness, wich might stop you from seeing a soldier jumping you or some scout flanking for you.

and? seems fair to me that you cant give ur teammate 150 health across the map while also perfectly dodging everything coming at u. if u dont want to lose awareness u can literally not pull out the xbow

[quote=sage]
Eliminates weapon variety: Its so good that all the other primaries are considered "trolling"[/quote]
currently the same for every 6s weapon slot in the game except maybe soldier melees and secondaries
[quote=sage]Viewlock: While medigun lets you look around while healing, crossbow forces you to place your crosshair at your teammate and lose situational awareness, wich might stop you from seeing a soldier jumping you or some scout flanking for you.[/quote]
and? seems fair to me that you cant give ur teammate 150 health across the map while also perfectly dodging everything coming at u. if u dont want to lose awareness u can literally not pull out the xbow

#65

brahmi

-7 Frags – +

crossbow is a net positive for the game and anyone who says otherwise is wrong. I don't think any changes need to be made to it in its current state

#66

Stylax

2 Frags – +

I played a lobby with Sage where both meds didn't use the crossbow, and all you can hear all game is the sound of fucking needles flying everywhere.

#67

edin

8 Frags – +

sageLesbian_JakeBrother, you have become accostumed to a vice, but theres another side to this coin... The enemy also has this rotten vice on their hands. And once they are removed from it, they will also be easier to kill. Its not about your team losing crossbow, its about the whole existance of crossbow being removed from your match
You'd be surprised how natural and direct teamfights feel once the crossbow is no longer there. At least give it a try.
Your damage would matter a whole lot more too.

??? their scouts will still be 185 regardless if they have arrows or not lol

[quote=sage][quote=Lesbian_Jake][/quote]
Brother, you have become accostumed to a vice, but theres another side to this coin... The enemy also has this rotten vice on their hands. And once they are removed from it, they will also be easier to kill. Its not about your team losing crossbow, its about the whole existance of crossbow being removed from your match
You'd be surprised how natural and direct teamfights feel once the crossbow is no longer there. At least give it a try.
Your damage would matter a whole lot more too.[/quote]
??? their scouts will still be 185 regardless if they have arrows or not lol

#68

Reflecto

7 Frags – +

you probably don't gain any players by banning the crossbow but you will most likely lose a lot if you do. no one waiting on the outskirts of tf2 for the crossbow ban while there certainly are people who would be unwilling to play medic without that mechanic. i think we're a bit beyond considering what is bad for the game to be something that causes some players unhappiness and instead should think about what is bad for the game is terms of what loses us players

#69

Azazel-

4 Frags – +

ban standing still

#70

Shifta

1 Frags – +

StylaxI played a lobby with Sage where both meds didn't use the crossbow, and all you can hear all game is the sound of fucking needles flying everywhere.

music to my ears

[quote=Stylax]I played a lobby with Sage where both meds didn't use the crossbow, and all you can hear all game is the sound of fucking needles flying everywhere.[/quote]

music to my ears

#71

yungsally

9 Frags – +

Bruh why the fuck are we gonna get all fired up about this shit again when ain't shit gonna change lmao

#72

Maky

-1 Frags – +

Lets face it, even if we did ban the crossbow, it still wouldn't bring LAN back ;(

#73

MozzarellaFireFox

6 Frags – +

I actually have the perfect solution:
You've heard of RGL Traditional Sixes, you've heard of RGL No-Restriction Sixes, now prepare for: RGL Traditional Sixes Minus Crossbow

#74

alba

7 Frags – +

I've played TF2 since 2010-2011. I've played both metas and I think the current meta is more fun than ever. I don't think the crossbow is a problem its more about how TF2 has grown to be played smarter with more caution regarding risk vs reward. I don't think a little bit slower gameplay is a bad thing. Most of the time big stalemates happen because it's hard on some maps to get work done. For instance granary mid to yard or yard to second. It's incredibely difficult to force enemy medic from these positions. Same for snakewater 2nd to mid. That causes more stalemates than anything else. Sure we can speculate how we can move through a tiny door and not wipe but I'm not sure that would be a good thing.

#75

Snack

1 Frags – +

tf2 promod wishlist x
1) crossbow BANNED
2) demo sticky det bug fixed x
3) my ex takes me back
4) medic speed buff reverted

#76

wru

4 Frags – +

so this was the one that made valve pull the plug huh

#77

The_Fridge

3 Frags – +

Haven’t read the whole thread but idk if anyone has brought up the fact that the maps/ game mode that we play on are they biggest reason the game has slown down

#78

BLoodSire

5 Frags – +

you got a problem with express heals, bruh?

#79

funhaver1998

0 Frags – +

all this talk about crossbow is taking away conversation from the actual shit that is fucking our game. its not that important

#80

rocketslay

-3 Frags – +

5cp is an inherently stalemate-prone gamemode. Why not design/test out new payload, a/d, koth maps?

#81

ova117

2 Frags – +

rocketslay5cp is an inherently stalemate-prone gamemode. Why not design/test out new payload, a/d, koth maps?

a/d and koth might work, but payload sucks ass in 6s because you have to have a cartbitch. Idk if this is possible, but if someone made a PL map where the cart keeps going until a red player touches it, that would be good.

[quote=rocketslay]5cp is an inherently stalemate-prone gamemode. Why not design/test out new payload, a/d, koth maps?[/quote]
a/d and koth might work, but payload sucks ass in 6s because you have to have a cartbitch. Idk if this is possible, but if someone made a PL map where the cart keeps going until a red player touches it, that would be good.

#82

Nightfaul

1 Frags – +

ova117rocketslay5cp is an inherently stalemate-prone gamemode. Why not design/test out new payload, a/d, koth maps?a/d and koth might work, but payload sucks ass in 6s because you have to have a cartbitch. Idk if this is possible, but if someone made a PL map where the cart keeps going until a red player touches it, that would be good.

https://www.teamfortress.tv/39474/pl-tapline

[quote=ova117][quote=rocketslay]5cp is an inherently stalemate-prone gamemode. Why not design/test out new payload, a/d, koth maps?[/quote]
a/d and koth might work, but payload sucks ass in 6s because you have to have a cartbitch. Idk if this is possible, but if someone made a PL map where the cart keeps going until a red player touches it, that would be good.[/quote]
https://www.teamfortress.tv/39474/pl-tapline

#83

oyea

-1 Frags – +

Add koth_bagel and koth_isla to the mappool

#84

funhaver1998

3 Frags – +

oyeaAdd koth_bagel and koth_isla to the mappool

nooooo ahahaha

[quote=oyea]Add koth_bagel and koth_isla to the mappool[/quote]

nooooo ahahaha