Crisp visual design wrapped in an outerspace theme with a clean gameplay loop, I especially adore the bright walls for easier target acqusition.

Looking forward to seeing where the map goes from here!

Damn! Thanks for the encouragement :)

edit: it has come to my attention this man is a paid actor.

I've been playing too much magic because my first thought was this being named "Mana Base"

Just uploaded a somewhat unfiltered blind runthrough with thoughts scattered throughout. It's a bit lengthy but overall I feel it's fine for such a wide open map, where normally a wide open map would have some issues.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/591750467

TL;DW, add a dropdown to second from the lobby room between mid and 2nd, lower the height of the pallet in front of the door leading into lobby (from second, to allow soldiers to do a cool bomb I attempt), small clipping issues scattered throughout, add ammo packs to mid, maybe change the size or location of the mini pack behind the small houses on mid, make the clipping of the solar panels completely flush so soldiers don't accidentally shoot between the cracks, push the last point closer to the middle of the area, adjust the distance of the spawn doors accordingly.

I see a lot of potential for it in a pugtest. Sniper could be a little too strong on last defense.

Thanks for the in depth feedback, very useful and reasonable :)

You're right the drop down would be very interesting but it did actually exist around a9 or a10 but was deemed too op for attackers. Will definitely reconsider.

With the amount of ground needed to cover from that entrance, I didn't think it would be quite that powerful, but it definitely feels empty without it

A13 Update

THE ASTEROIDS NOW ORBIT (thank you theatreTECHIE)

Middle
More ammo
Removed rock

Second
Entrance to flank
Added pack to floor
New shutter into second from quake room
Removed yellow barrel

Last
Point moved further from spawn
Closed sniper sight lines
Changed "dick"
Removed platform on right side of last
Shutter added to top left

Lobby
Added window to platform to help people leaving last

Other small clipping changes and detailing. I likely forgot a lot of stuff.

I would like to thank rowrow for their input on the map, was incredibly useful. Obv would like to thank the people pugging the map <3.

where is the light coming from

A14 Update

All railings are now much lower and have no collision boxes. This was done to increase mobility.

Middle
· Door now pipe
· 2 new platforms on both side.
· Added small health pack
· Increased size of shack
· Added yellow barrels
· Removed solar panel
· Added new entrance

Quake room
· Changed glass to solid blue texture
· Remove one-way door
· Small entrance on the balcony blocked off

Choke
· New entrance to middle
· New barrels at wall outside of choke

Second
· Wall in corner changed to railing
· Wall outside choke now blocks sight lines due to new entrance to middle
· Added stairway to upper
· Spire is now round
· Forward spawn changed locations
· Added balcony for detailing purposes

Catwalk
· New detailing

Lobby
· All railings now much lower

Last
· Removed shutter
· Moved one of the spawn doors back and rotated
· Cleaned geometry

Second runthrough was short enough, everything genuinely feels ready and in place. There's some awkward clipping with the solar panels on mid, both the wall and a spot where you actually can stand for some reason (very finnicky). Last feels awkward to push from the right side, since the point is so far away, and it's a blind corner. Potential fixes there to make each entrance feel viable, and honestly it might be ready to roll to the next phase.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/603842392

Again thank you so much

b1 likely coming out in a few days with many visual and gameplay refinements

sneak peaks

Welcome to beta!
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These change logs are really low effort but the map has gone through many more changes. Also the map has been massively optimised.

Middle:
Improved clipping on solar panels

Second:
Alot
Staircases to spire changed
Detailing
Much easier to sack in second (hopefully)
Catwalk closed off
Main raised to help attackers into second out of last

Last:
Point centralised (ish)
More detailing

B2
Not many changes

- Improved last
- Added ramp to perch on mid

nice

hello its me again posting again

ITS B3 TIME BABY
Tried to make soldier more fun on last

Middle
- New flank
Window Room
- Curved the window to feel less open
Last
- Changed right side (defenders pov)

dl
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fixed spawns

go wild :3

"this has got to be a good idea"
it be'eth b4'eth time'eth
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Refinements and detailing
Most of this update is fixing issues that people had with b3a and adding in some extra stuff.
I am looking for feedback on the transition area from choke to second.

Detailing
• Added a dome to the map (modelled and textured by /dev/zero), may be disorientating/unpleasant but would like feedback on the theme.
• Changed sun
• Lighting improvements

Spawns
• Last spawns moved more to the right to help rolling out right side
• Middle forward spawns moved backwards to stop accidental opening of the door.

Middle
• Capture zone extends below the point
• Mini health pack on perch’s
• Shack and barrels have been moved to decrease the power of sightlines from the new room on middle.

Second
• Given attackers into second from quake room high ground

Last
• Flank side improved for holding
• Improved detailing
• Added catwalk on the wall above under
• Added window to lower
• Added high ground behind the point
• Increased height of wall flank side
• Added a platform on combo side

Middle Flank
• Added an open window that players can use to enter the new room. (Intended to help players to stop flanks)
• New raised platform for detailing/gameplay detailing.

Choke
• New raised platform intended to help pushes through choke, whether pushing into second or middle.

Quake Room
• Decreased the amount of doors into second to 2
• Made traversing the room easier
• Doors are larger to stop meds getting forced

Catwalk
• Added Jump pad modelled, animated, and textured by /dev/zero
• Moved health pack

Window Room
• Added second floor for detailing purposes, makes the room slightly (very slightly) more choke-ish

high five its b5
OOOOHHHH BOY

Reworked second and choke(ish)
also dome is gone :(

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Middle:
• Clipping fixes

Second
• Its completely different

Last
• Clipping improvement
• Adjusted spawns

Window Room
• New height variations/details

like a b6 like a b6

its b6
Slight improvements to both flanks, second and middle.
Minor clipping and aesthetic changes.

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Middle:
• Stairs to the point closer to choke.
• The point is not as tall high.

Computer:
• Changed to a dropdown.

Quake:
• New room to help defenders.

Second:
• Adjusted slightly to make the point feel more comfortable.

lemme swing past the b711
again its b7

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Middle:
• Reduced height of shack, and rotated orientation.
• Changed pack under the point to a medium.

Quake room:
• Windows blocked off, added window shutter.

Lobby:
• Made it easier to traverse

Last:
• Moved satellite away from the control point.
• Made right door larger
• Removed windows from shutter.

Looks fun. Good luck with progressing it further.

get b8'd
this is an update
from b7
to b8
the map is now b8
Overall theme has been revamped, check the screen below.

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Middle:
• Changed shape of shack
• Increased size of displacement and the texture.
• General retexturing and detailing

Second:
• Revamped structure on second
• Move ramp at choke closer in order to improve rollout

Last:
• Aligned point better
• Cleaned up staircases
• Move position of shutter slightly
• Window revamped
• General detailing

IT:
• Revamped

Quake Room:
• Revamped (sorta)

Window Room:
• New route into second

Yo, b9 is here.
Expect b9a very soon with more small changes

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Changelog:

General:
Many fixes
Boxes

Middle:
· Added new terrain
· Moved boxes
· Added boxes
· More/diff lighting

Second:
· Basically the same

Last:
· Less sentry spots
· Spawn has been moved forward

Choke:
· New window into IT

IT:
· New window into choke (hopefully this fixes flanks)

B10a
Wanted to try and hone-in on a visual style. Looks like I've figured it out.

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Middle:
• Cleaned up sign

Second:
• Removed Jump-pad
• Improved detailing on the spire
• Players can now climb their way into the window room
• Large OOB detail area added

Last:
• Visibility improvements
• Swamped fences for glass
• Raised OOB area slightly

Choke:
• New detailing

B11
Working on transitions and improving the midfight. Also improved the 2dskybox for those that turn it off.
I made a vid to show some rollout ideas: here

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Middle:
• Added ledge for soldiers to use
• Increased height of the wall to make high bombs easier.
• Change medium hp pack to small (not sure about this change)
• Removed sign
• Made the floor flatter

Second:
• A new balcony added intended to make the area feel a bit more "more". Often found capping the point and stopping the enemy team from entering from the lobby was quite awkward, hopefully, the balcony helps the area feel a bit more "controllable" for both teams.

Last:
• Changed left sign (defender persp) to improve the rollout and to make it feel better to play in
• Cleared up right side to improve sacs
• Moved under from left to right to also improve sacs (this also increases walk time from lower to lobby to make scouts a bit
less powerful when sacing into lobby from last)

Choke
• Removed doorway, intended to simplify the choke fight. Also will make it simpler to push middle. (might make it more difficult will be keeping a close eye on this)

Quake Room
• Moved the trigger for the window shutter further back to stop people from hiding up there

some more soldier rollouts here

+1 fun map <3

B12
I've had many people complain that the map feels quite large. I haven't actually compared the map to other 6s maps, however, I feel this is more a feeling of areas being large rather them actually being larger. So this update has mostly been a focus on second/choke. However, there are changes to other areas:

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Middle:
• Shacks size increased
• New ledge on the outside of quake room

Second:
• Moved health and ammo closer to choke
• Fortified the point
• Closed off sniper angles

Lobby:
• Opened up the high ground in lobby but cutting a platform out of the wall

Choke:
• Moved med hp/ammo
• Added back route, except in different spot and has a jump-pad

I'm hoping that these changes will make the choke fight and flank fight feel a bit more focused.
I'm also hoping that the choke gets reduced in size due to the change of placement of the medium hp pack and the placement of the jump pad.

glad to see the jump-pad is back ;D

mannbase deserves more attention, I'm loving b12b so far!

Yeah, so I've been thinking about this a lil. I don't really mind so much that people aren't replying, I kinda understand why and I don't blame them. Community members putting their own time into a project that probably won't affect them is a bit of a rare gift for mappers. It's not like I believe I have the right to feedback, I don't.

The map is getting downloads on tf2maps.net and is being playtested fairly often, and afaik is being enjoyed by enough people that I feel I don't really need the feedback from TFTV users (Don't get me wrong, I'd fucking love some). I'm happy with the development and feedback it's getting, doesn't need to be from here. Despite the lack of attention it's getting on TFTV, I keep this thread updated in case there is a TFTV user that is watching this thread.

I have worried that posting updates is somewhat spammy but eh fuck it.
I'll keep updating it until I stop updating it.

I think there are plenty more experienced players on TFTV than tf2maps. I wish more ppl on this site will give this map a look over. Im mostly replying to keep this thread active in hopes more ppl will get a chance to see it and give this map a chance. If anything, its to help others get exposure to new maps, not as much just for more feedback for you (tho im sure youd enjoy more from higher-level players ;p).