Wills you're literally reaching Lord_Droll status. Please stop.
UGC Admin TF2_Moose VAC Banned
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Wills you're literally reaching Lord_Droll status. Please stop.
http://teamfortress.tv/forum/thread/1823/1
http://teamfortress.tv/forum/thread/1823/1
and lets not forget that UGC will allow moose to play next season.
thats the big kicker here
and lets not forget that UGC will allow moose to play next season.
thats the big kicker here
thats the big kicker here
Doesn't UGC have policies for banning people who have been VAC'd for cheating? Both ETF2L and Ozfortress have mandatory ban policies for people who have been VAC'd.
Doesn't UGC have policies for banning people who have been VAC'd for cheating? Both ETF2L and Ozfortress have mandatory ban policies for people who have been VAC'd.
krakowDoesn't UGC have policies for banning people who have been VAC'd for cheating? Both ETF2L and Ozfortress have mandatory ban policies for people who have been VAC'd.
who knows, ugc isn't very transparent
[quote=krakow]Doesn't UGC have policies for banning people who have been VAC'd for cheating? Both ETF2L and Ozfortress have mandatory ban policies for people who have been VAC'd.[/quote]
who knows, ugc isn't very transparent
who knows, ugc isn't very transparent
When I saw this thread I wanted to read all of the drama in the ugc forum.
Upon checking - somehow, there's not a single post about it? Are they the north korea of gaming leagues? An admin being vac banned would be all over the forums of any league I've ever played in.
When I saw this thread I wanted to read all of the drama in the ugc forum.
Upon checking - somehow, there's not a single post about it? Are they the north korea of gaming leagues? An admin being vac banned would be all over the forums of any league I've ever played in.
Upon checking - somehow, there's not a single post about it? Are they the north korea of gaming leagues? An admin being vac banned would be all over the forums of any league I've ever played in.
WillsBeause he didn't want that discussion happening on his thread. He deleted your, mine, AND Moose's comments. Start a new thread if you want to discuss it so badly :P
except i can't because -every- post about it has been deleted and there's 0 indication that a thread about it will be any different. there were not just posts in hein's thread, you know.
[quote=Wills]Beause he didn't want that discussion happening on his thread. He deleted your, mine, AND Moose's comments. Start a new thread if you want to discuss it so badly :P[/quote]
except i can't because -every- post about it has been deleted and there's 0 indication that a thread about it will be any different. there were not just posts in hein's thread, you know.
except i can't because -every- post about it has been deleted and there's 0 indication that a thread about it will be any different. there were not just posts in hein's thread, you know.
downpourand lets not forget that UGC will allow moose to play next season.
thats the big kicker here
Problem is they set their own precedent when they banned marisa... so based on that, moose should also be banned. I believe marisa's team was punished as well, and marisa was never VAC banned (at least I don't think). I wholly expect Moose to be banned from UGC for at least a season, if not permanently. False positive or not, a VAC ban is a VAC ban and should be treated with a zero tolerance policy.
[quote=downpour]and lets not forget that UGC will allow moose to play next season.
thats the big kicker here[/quote]
Problem is they set their own precedent when they banned marisa... so based on that, moose should also be banned. I believe marisa's team was punished as well, and marisa was never VAC banned (at least I don't think). I wholly expect Moose to be banned from UGC for at least a season, if not permanently. False positive or not, a VAC ban is a VAC ban and should be treated with a zero tolerance policy.
thats the big kicker here[/quote]
Problem is they set their own precedent when they banned marisa... so based on that, moose should also be banned. I believe marisa's team was punished as well, and marisa was never VAC banned (at least I don't think). I wholly expect Moose to be banned from UGC for at least a season, if not permanently. False positive or not, a VAC ban is a VAC ban and should be treated with a zero tolerance policy.
http://www.ugcleague.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6414
hopefully this thread doesnt get deleted/locked
http://www.ugcleague.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6414
hopefully this thread doesnt get deleted/locked
hopefully this thread doesnt get deleted/locked
I wholly expect Moose to be banned from UGC for at least a season, if not permanently.
hhahaha
[quote]I wholly expect Moose to be banned from UGC for at least a season, if not permanently.[/quote]
hhahaha
hhahaha
I don't understand what UGC's deal with rampantly deleting threads is.
Pretty much any time something involving an admin comes up, threads are deleted with no notice. Not even sure if they lock threads anymore @_@
I don't understand what UGC's deal with rampantly deleting threads is.
Pretty much any time something involving an admin comes up, threads are deleted with no notice. Not even sure if they lock threads anymore @_@
Pretty much any time something involving an admin comes up, threads are deleted with no notice. Not even sure if they lock threads anymore @_@
djcWillsBeause he didn't want that discussion happening on his thread. He deleted your, mine, AND Moose's comments. Start a new thread if you want to discuss it so badly :P
except i can't because -every- post about it has been deleted and there's 0 indication that a thread about it will be any different. there were not just posts in hein's thread, you know.
Well I hadn't checked.
I just assumed everyone who wanted to go drama-queen on it came here to yell at me instead XD haha
Whatever, I guess it will all come out in the wash.
I do appreciate people going through all the old threads I've posted in/made to downfrag me though, that's pretty thoughtful!
And just so it's clear, Moose is not playing in UGC, regardless of him being allowed to.
[quote=djc][quote=Wills]Beause he didn't want that discussion happening on his thread. He deleted your, mine, AND Moose's comments. Start a new thread if you want to discuss it so badly :P[/quote]
except i can't because -every- post about it has been deleted and there's 0 indication that a thread about it will be any different. there were not just posts in hein's thread, you know.[/quote]
Well I hadn't checked.
I just assumed everyone who wanted to go drama-queen on it came here to yell at me instead XD haha
Whatever, I guess it will all come out in the wash.
I do appreciate people going through all the old threads I've posted in/made to downfrag me though, that's pretty thoughtful!
And just so it's clear, Moose is not playing in UGC, regardless of him being allowed to.
except i can't because -every- post about it has been deleted and there's 0 indication that a thread about it will be any different. there were not just posts in hein's thread, you know.[/quote]
Well I hadn't checked.
I just assumed everyone who wanted to go drama-queen on it came here to yell at me instead XD haha
Whatever, I guess it will all come out in the wash.
I do appreciate people going through all the old threads I've posted in/made to downfrag me though, that's pretty thoughtful!
And just so it's clear, Moose is not playing in UGC, regardless of him being allowed to.
don't worry guys he's probably innocent, just like hoegie, ametrine,bambam and beat
don't worry guys he's probably innocent, just like hoegie, ametrine,bambam and beat
WillsdjcWillsBeause he didn't want that discussion happening on his thread. He deleted your, mine, AND Moose's comments. Start a new thread if you want to discuss it so badly :P
except i can't because -every- post about it has been deleted and there's 0 indication that a thread about it will be any different. there were not just posts in hein's thread, you know.
Well I hadn't checked.
I just assumed everyone who wanted to go drama-queen on it came here to yell at me instead XD haha
Whatever, I guess it will all come out in the wash.
I do appreciate people going through all the old threads I've posted in/made to downfrag me though, that's pretty thoughtful!
And just so it's clear, Moose is not playing in UGC, regardless of him being allowed to.
I know you're fucking retarded because you're a heavy main in UGC, but could you not unironically use XD here because it makes my eyes bleed.
[quote=Wills][quote=djc][quote=Wills]Beause he didn't want that discussion happening on his thread. He deleted your, mine, AND Moose's comments. Start a new thread if you want to discuss it so badly :P[/quote]
except i can't because -every- post about it has been deleted and there's 0 indication that a thread about it will be any different. there were not just posts in hein's thread, you know.[/quote]
Well I hadn't checked.
I just assumed everyone who wanted to go drama-queen on it came here to yell at me instead XD haha
Whatever, I guess it will all come out in the wash.
I do appreciate people going through all the old threads I've posted in/made to downfrag me though, that's pretty thoughtful!
And just so it's clear, Moose is not playing in UGC, regardless of him being allowed to.[/quote]
I know you're fucking retarded because you're a heavy main in UGC, but could you not unironically use XD here because it makes my eyes bleed.
except i can't because -every- post about it has been deleted and there's 0 indication that a thread about it will be any different. there were not just posts in hein's thread, you know.[/quote]
Well I hadn't checked.
I just assumed everyone who wanted to go drama-queen on it came here to yell at me instead XD haha
Whatever, I guess it will all come out in the wash.
I do appreciate people going through all the old threads I've posted in/made to downfrag me though, that's pretty thoughtful!
And just so it's clear, Moose is not playing in UGC, regardless of him being allowed to.[/quote]
I know you're fucking retarded because you're a heavy main in UGC, but could you not unironically use XD here because it makes my eyes bleed.
WillsdjcWillsBeause he didn't want that discussion happening on his thread. He deleted your, mine, AND Moose's comments. Start a new thread if you want to discuss it so badly :P
except i can't because -every- post about it has been deleted and there's 0 indication that a thread about it will be any different. there were not just posts in hein's thread, you know.
Well I hadn't checked.
I just assumed everyone who wanted to go drama-queen on it came here to yell at me instead XD haha
Whatever, I guess it will all come out in the wash.
I do appreciate people going through all the old threads I've posted in/made to downfrag me though, that's pretty thoughtful!
And just so it's clear, Moose is not playing in UGC, regardless of him being allowed to.
holy shit do you really think this
[quote=Wills][quote=djc][quote=Wills]Beause he didn't want that discussion happening on his thread. He deleted your, mine, AND Moose's comments. Start a new thread if you want to discuss it so badly :P[/quote]
except i can't because -every- post about it has been deleted and there's 0 indication that a thread about it will be any different. there were not just posts in hein's thread, you know.[/quote]
Well I hadn't checked.
[b]I just assumed everyone who wanted to go drama-queen on it came here to yell at me instead XD haha[/b]
Whatever, I guess it will all come out in the wash.
I do appreciate people going through all the old threads I've posted in/made to downfrag me though, that's pretty thoughtful!
And just so it's clear, Moose is not playing in UGC, regardless of him being allowed to.[/quote]
holy shit do you really think this
except i can't because -every- post about it has been deleted and there's 0 indication that a thread about it will be any different. there were not just posts in hein's thread, you know.[/quote]
Well I hadn't checked.
[b]I just assumed everyone who wanted to go drama-queen on it came here to yell at me instead XD haha[/b]
Whatever, I guess it will all come out in the wash.
I do appreciate people going through all the old threads I've posted in/made to downfrag me though, that's pretty thoughtful!
And just so it's clear, Moose is not playing in UGC, regardless of him being allowed to.[/quote]
holy shit do you really think this
Wills
Why is is this retard still allowed on the forums?
[quote=Wills][/quote]
Why is is this retard still allowed on the forums?
Why is is this retard still allowed on the forums?
you really don't know when to stop do you wills?
you just reiterate the same nonsensical argument with smiley faces
i guess with your logic, lance armstrong never did drugs cause he's famous and shit
we need UGCLeaks to get on dis case
you really don't know when to stop do you wills?
you just reiterate the same nonsensical argument with smiley faces
i guess with your logic, lance armstrong never did drugs cause he's famous and shit
we need UGCLeaks to get on dis case
you just reiterate the same nonsensical argument with smiley faces
i guess with your logic, lance armstrong never did drugs cause he's famous and shit
we need UGCLeaks to get on dis case
FuRyhttp://www.ugcleague.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6414
hopefully this thread doesnt get deleted/locked
that lasted 30 minutes
[quote=FuRy]http://www.ugcleague.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6414
hopefully this thread doesnt get deleted/locked[/quote]
that lasted 30 minutes
hopefully this thread doesnt get deleted/locked[/quote]
that lasted 30 minutes
FuRyFuRyhttp://www.ugcleague.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6414that lasted 30 minutes
hopefully this thread doesnt get deleted/locked
At least they (barely) acknowledged the issue and locked instead of burning it, and then burning the ashes.
Progress!
[quote=FuRy][quote=FuRy]http://www.ugcleague.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6414
hopefully this thread doesnt get deleted/locked[/quote]
that lasted 30 minutes[/quote]
At least they (barely) acknowledged the issue and locked instead of burning it, and then burning the ashes.
Progress!
hopefully this thread doesnt get deleted/locked[/quote]
that lasted 30 minutes[/quote]
At least they (barely) acknowledged the issue and locked instead of burning it, and then burning the ashes.
Progress!
And the thread got locked already, hopefully people keep talking about it if just to show that locking threads won't stop people from thinking the same about UGC
And the thread got locked already, hopefully people keep talking about it if just to show that locking threads won't stop people from thinking the same about UGC
AddOilyou really don't know when to stop do you wills?
you just reiterate the same nonsensical argument with smiley faces
i guess with your logic, lance armstrong never did drugs cause he's famous and shit
we need UGCLeaks to get on dis case
Oil, you're not a very nice guy, you know that?
I trusted Lance when he said he didn't dope. I was more than disappointed when I found out he lied. Now I will never trust him again.
Moose has never lied to me, and until I find out he has, I trust him.
But I'm surprised to see it took this long to get to personal insults against my character and intelligence, never mind playing ability!
[quote=AddOil]you really don't know when to stop do you wills?
you just reiterate the same nonsensical argument with smiley faces
i guess with your logic, lance armstrong never did drugs cause he's famous and shit
we need UGCLeaks to get on dis case[/quote]
Oil, you're not a very nice guy, you know that?
I trusted Lance when he said he didn't dope. I was more than disappointed when I found out he lied. Now I will never trust him again.
Moose has never lied to me, and until I find out he has, I trust him.
But I'm surprised to see it took this long to get to personal insults against my character and intelligence, never mind playing ability!
you just reiterate the same nonsensical argument with smiley faces
i guess with your logic, lance armstrong never did drugs cause he's famous and shit
we need UGCLeaks to get on dis case[/quote]
Oil, you're not a very nice guy, you know that?
I trusted Lance when he said he didn't dope. I was more than disappointed when I found out he lied. Now I will never trust him again.
Moose has never lied to me, and until I find out he has, I trust him.
But I'm surprised to see it took this long to get to personal insults against my character and intelligence, never mind playing ability!
WillsAddOilyou really don't know when to stop do you wills?
you just reiterate the same nonsensical argument with smiley faces
i guess with your logic, lance armstrong never did drugs cause he's famous and shit
we need UGCLeaks to get on dis case
Oil, you're not a very nice guy, you know that?
I trusted Lance when he said he didn't dope. I was more than disappointed when I found out he lied. Now I will never trust him again.
Moose has never lied to me, and until I find out he has, I trust him.
But I'm surprised to see it took this long to get to personal insults against my character and intelligence, never mind playing ability!
That's because you reiterate the same points over and over, ignoring any counterpoints. At some point you have to wonder if the person you're arguing with is retarded.
[quote=Wills][quote=AddOil]you really don't know when to stop do you wills?
you just reiterate the same nonsensical argument with smiley faces
i guess with your logic, lance armstrong never did drugs cause he's famous and shit
we need UGCLeaks to get on dis case[/quote]
Oil, you're not a very nice guy, you know that?
I trusted Lance when he said he didn't dope. I was more than disappointed when I found out he lied. Now I will never trust him again.
Moose has never lied to me, and until I find out he has, I trust him.
But I'm surprised to see it took this long to get to personal insults against my character and intelligence, never mind playing ability![/quote]
That's because you reiterate the same points over and over, ignoring any counterpoints. At some point you have to wonder if the person you're arguing with is retarded.
you just reiterate the same nonsensical argument with smiley faces
i guess with your logic, lance armstrong never did drugs cause he's famous and shit
we need UGCLeaks to get on dis case[/quote]
Oil, you're not a very nice guy, you know that?
I trusted Lance when he said he didn't dope. I was more than disappointed when I found out he lied. Now I will never trust him again.
Moose has never lied to me, and until I find out he has, I trust him.
But I'm surprised to see it took this long to get to personal insults against my character and intelligence, never mind playing ability![/quote]
That's because you reiterate the same points over and over, ignoring any counterpoints. At some point you have to wonder if the person you're arguing with is retarded.
its so fun when the admins play dumb to get away with shit
like taking downpour's thread so literally that as soon as an admin shows up and says "yeah, we know about it" the discussion is over
plus the fact that they decided to lock it rather than delete it to save face
how fun
its so fun when the admins play dumb to get away with shit
like taking downpour's thread so literally that as soon as an admin shows up and says "yeah, we know about it" the discussion is over
plus the fact that they decided to lock it rather than delete it to save face
how fun
like taking downpour's thread so literally that as soon as an admin shows up and says "yeah, we know about it" the discussion is over
plus the fact that they decided to lock it rather than delete it to save face
how fun
Wills Oil, you're not a very nice guy, you know that?
im surprised it took this long for you to find out?
i trusted you when you said you had better arguments, i was more than disappointed when i found out you lied. Now i will never have a logical argument with you again.
[quote=Wills] Oil, you're not a very nice guy, you know that?[/quote]
im surprised it took this long for you to find out?
i trusted you when you said you had better arguments, i was more than disappointed when i found out you lied. Now i will never have a logical argument with you again.
im surprised it took this long for you to find out?
i trusted you when you said you had better arguments, i was more than disappointed when i found out you lied. Now i will never have a logical argument with you again.
RawrSpoon
That's because you reiterate the same points over and over, ignoring any counterpoints. At some point you have to wonder if the person you're arguing with is retarded.
It's because I only have one point :)
And while the counter-points may indeed range from "All hackers lie" to "Wills is retarded", none of them have really "proven" anything. As I said about 100 posts ago, we really don't know what happened so we'll have to wait and see!
Neither side has proof; you have a VAC ban and speculation, I have trust and a man's word.
[quote=RawrSpoon]
That's because you reiterate the same points over and over, ignoring any counterpoints. At some point you have to wonder if the person you're arguing with is retarded.[/quote]
It's because I only have one point :)
And while the counter-points may indeed range from "All hackers lie" to "Wills is retarded", none of them have really "proven" anything. As I said about 100 posts ago, we really don't know what happened so we'll have to wait and see!
Neither side has proof; you have a VAC ban and speculation, I have trust and a man's word.
That's because you reiterate the same points over and over, ignoring any counterpoints. At some point you have to wonder if the person you're arguing with is retarded.[/quote]
It's because I only have one point :)
And while the counter-points may indeed range from "All hackers lie" to "Wills is retarded", none of them have really "proven" anything. As I said about 100 posts ago, we really don't know what happened so we'll have to wait and see!
Neither side has proof; you have a VAC ban and speculation, I have trust and a man's word.
WillsAddOilyou really don't know when to stop do you wills?
you just reiterate the same nonsensical argument with smiley faces
i guess with your logic, lance armstrong never did drugs cause he's famous and shit
we need UGCLeaks to get on dis case
Oil, you're not a very nice guy, you know that?
I trusted Lance when he said he didn't dope. I was more than disappointed when I found out he lied. Now I will never trust him again.
Moose has never lied to me, and until I find out he has, I trust him.
But I'm surprised to see it took this long to get to personal insults against my character and intelligence, never mind playing ability!
Look, if you want to trust someone for very meager reasons other then them saying they didn't do it, feel free to. However, stop acting like everyone else should be as trusting as you are and stop acting like we're monsters for thinking that the VAC ban is probably legitimate. To be more specific, please stop saying stuff like:
And I *really* don't like the "Guilty until proven innocent" vibe floating around.
[quote=Wills][quote=AddOil]you really don't know when to stop do you wills?
you just reiterate the same nonsensical argument with smiley faces
i guess with your logic, lance armstrong never did drugs cause he's famous and shit
we need UGCLeaks to get on dis case[/quote]
Oil, you're not a very nice guy, you know that?
I trusted Lance when he said he didn't dope. I was more than disappointed when I found out he lied. Now I will never trust him again.
Moose has never lied to me, and until I find out he has, I trust him.
But I'm surprised to see it took this long to get to personal insults against my character and intelligence, never mind playing ability![/quote]
Look, if you want to trust someone for very meager reasons other then them saying they didn't do it, feel free to. However, stop acting like everyone else should be as trusting as you are and stop acting like we're monsters for thinking that the VAC ban is probably legitimate. To be more specific, please stop saying stuff like:
[quote]And I *really* don't like the "Guilty until proven innocent" vibe floating around.[/quote]
you just reiterate the same nonsensical argument with smiley faces
i guess with your logic, lance armstrong never did drugs cause he's famous and shit
we need UGCLeaks to get on dis case[/quote]
Oil, you're not a very nice guy, you know that?
I trusted Lance when he said he didn't dope. I was more than disappointed when I found out he lied. Now I will never trust him again.
Moose has never lied to me, and until I find out he has, I trust him.
But I'm surprised to see it took this long to get to personal insults against my character and intelligence, never mind playing ability![/quote]
Look, if you want to trust someone for very meager reasons other then them saying they didn't do it, feel free to. However, stop acting like everyone else should be as trusting as you are and stop acting like we're monsters for thinking that the VAC ban is probably legitimate. To be more specific, please stop saying stuff like:
[quote]And I *really* don't like the "Guilty until proven innocent" vibe floating around.[/quote]
frknkrakowDoesn't UGC have policies for banning people who have been VAC'd for cheating? Both ETF2L and Ozfortress have mandatory ban policies for people who have been VAC'd.who knows, ugc isn't very transparent
not sure id want transparency in a league where a majority of players are casual. DL used to deal with those kinds of guys on the steam forums all the time, it had no effect.
[quote=frkn][quote=krakow]Doesn't UGC have policies for banning people who have been VAC'd for cheating? Both ETF2L and Ozfortress have mandatory ban policies for people who have been VAC'd.[/quote]
who knows, ugc isn't very transparent[/quote]
not sure id want transparency in a league where a majority of players are casual. DL used to deal with those kinds of guys on the steam forums all the time, it had no effect.
who knows, ugc isn't very transparent[/quote]
not sure id want transparency in a league where a majority of players are casual. DL used to deal with those kinds of guys on the steam forums all the time, it had no effect.
WillsRawrSpoon
That's because you reiterate the same points over and over, ignoring any counterpoints. At some point you have to wonder if the person you're arguing with is retarded.
It's because I only have one point :)
And while the counter-points may indeed range from "All hackers lie" to "Wills is retarded", none of them have really "proven" anything. As I said about 100 posts ago, we really don't know what happened so we'll have to wait and see!
Neither side has proof; you have a VAC ban and speculation, I have trust and a man's word.
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqnunuTrxn1qkjbavo1_500.jpg
[quote=Wills][quote=RawrSpoon]
That's because you reiterate the same points over and over, ignoring any counterpoints. At some point you have to wonder if the person you're arguing with is retarded.[/quote]
It's because I only have one point :)
And while the counter-points may indeed range from "All hackers lie" to "Wills is retarded", none of them have really "proven" anything. As I said about 100 posts ago, we really don't know what happened so we'll have to wait and see!
Neither side has proof; you have a VAC ban and speculation, I have trust and a man's word.[/quote]
[img]http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqnunuTrxn1qkjbavo1_500.jpg[/img]
That's because you reiterate the same points over and over, ignoring any counterpoints. At some point you have to wonder if the person you're arguing with is retarded.[/quote]
It's because I only have one point :)
And while the counter-points may indeed range from "All hackers lie" to "Wills is retarded", none of them have really "proven" anything. As I said about 100 posts ago, we really don't know what happened so we'll have to wait and see!
Neither side has proof; you have a VAC ban and speculation, I have trust and a man's word.[/quote]
[img]http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqnunuTrxn1qkjbavo1_500.jpg[/img]
Spamfest
Look, if you want to trust someone for very meager reasons other then them saying they didn't do it, feel free to. However, stop acting like everyone else should be as trusting as you are and stop acting like we're monsters for thinking that the VAC ban is probably legitimate. To be more specific, please stop saying stuff like:And I *really* don't like the "Guilty until proven innocent" vibe floating around.
Look if you want to call someone a liar for very meager reasons other than an unexplained VAC ban, feel free to. However, stop acting like I should be as accusatory as you are, and stop acting like I'm a monster for thinking the VAC ban might not be legitimate. To be more specific, please stop saying stuff like:
RawrSpoon At some point you have to wonder if the person you're arguing with is retarded.
MoooWillsWhy is is this retard still allowed on the forums?
2sy_morphiendI know you're fucking retarded because you're a heavy main in UGC, but could you not unironically use XD here because it makes my eyes bleed.
[quote=Spamfest]
Look, if you want to trust someone for very meager reasons other then them saying they didn't do it, feel free to. However, stop acting like everyone else should be as trusting as you are and stop acting like we're monsters for thinking that the VAC ban is probably legitimate. To be more specific, please stop saying stuff like:
[quote]And I *really* don't like the "Guilty until proven innocent" vibe floating around.[/quote][/quote]
Look if you want to call someone a liar for very meager reasons other than an unexplained VAC ban, feel free to. However, stop acting like I should be as accusatory as you are, and stop acting like I'm a monster for thinking the VAC ban might not be legitimate. To be more specific, please stop saying stuff like:
[quote=RawrSpoon] At some point you have to wonder if the person you're arguing with is retarded.[/quote]
[quote=Mooo][quote=Wills][/quote]
Why is is this retard still allowed on the forums?[/quote]
[quote=2sy_morphiend]
I know you're fucking retarded because you're a heavy main in UGC, but could you not unironically use XD here because it makes my eyes bleed.[/quote]
Look, if you want to trust someone for very meager reasons other then them saying they didn't do it, feel free to. However, stop acting like everyone else should be as trusting as you are and stop acting like we're monsters for thinking that the VAC ban is probably legitimate. To be more specific, please stop saying stuff like:
[quote]And I *really* don't like the "Guilty until proven innocent" vibe floating around.[/quote][/quote]
Look if you want to call someone a liar for very meager reasons other than an unexplained VAC ban, feel free to. However, stop acting like I should be as accusatory as you are, and stop acting like I'm a monster for thinking the VAC ban might not be legitimate. To be more specific, please stop saying stuff like:
[quote=RawrSpoon] At some point you have to wonder if the person you're arguing with is retarded.[/quote]
[quote=Mooo][quote=Wills][/quote]
Why is is this retard still allowed on the forums?[/quote]
[quote=2sy_morphiend]
I know you're fucking retarded because you're a heavy main in UGC, but could you not unironically use XD here because it makes my eyes bleed.[/quote]
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