Another bump:

E1L1: In the Thick of It
http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/94fwxy/rise-of-the-triad-e3-2013--level-1-walkthrough

Weapon Showcase
http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/gthyrt/rise-of-the-triad-e3-2013--weapons-walkthrough

E2L1: Into the Castle
http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/w61oed/rise-of-the-triad-e3-2013-level-2-mini-boss-gameplay

Interview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1-c7iYYnriU

I actually don't think I can name a single game designed to be competitive that was actually good.

Like, all the best competitive games were ones that designed without it in mind at the start really (Quake, DotA, TF2, CS 1.6, Melee, Super Turbo, StarCraft...) and all the ones with it designed in mind/focused on were REAL BAD (FURY IM LOOKING AT YOU).

pls be a good comp game :(, though I'll still play it at friends regardless, brawl was still mega good for that.

Think that's just how Steam's thing works, you would probably have the same problem with TF2Lobby, UGC forums, and anything else that uses it.

from hildreth?

you don't say.

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good writeup btw I love this style of writing.

so why don't you do your own? :(

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=581089

for anyone who doesn't know this guy is an industry insider who leaks info and has a 100% track record over the past 9 years.

ETF2L allows 9 weapons, so 88% of the game's weapons are banned there, yeah.

I wouldn't exactly say the 6s ban list isn't extensive, almost half the weapons in the game are banned.

There are 50 weapon bans, and (ignoring reskins which don't do anything but including the Pyroland reskins) 123 unlocks.

So 40% of the game's items are banned.

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And some of the bans are for items that I think most people would admit are really bad items that wouldn't affect much except allow a niche strategy if they were allowed and at least give the "illusion of choice" at worst for a new player.

It's already been said Valve won't do this because they can't guarantee the quality of the streams or what the streams will do, it would make Valve look bad if they said "hey check out this stream" and then for some reason the streamer one day decides to just say nigger 500 times in a row, etc etc.

They don't even do this for dota 2, so there's no chance in hell they'd do it for tf2.

Bump, turns out there will be bunny hopping in MP, makes me wonder if ROTT95 had it because I never tried when I was a kid since it wasn't a thing really.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/217140/discussions/0/846954921897854734/

I do believe the hold up with this idea in TF2 is DotA 2 has dynamic STV allocation - STVs are created and allocated for tournaments (and public games even) as needed to match demand and the game will put you in one automatically. In Team Fortress 2 all STVs are basically servers owned by 3rd party GSPs and not managed by Valve, so this system would not really work nearly as well unless a tournament worked with Valve on it.

That and Team Fortress 2 does not have the broadcaster STV support that DotA 2's improved STV system has.

Basically what I'm saying is is someone should work with the i49 organizers to make this and an i49 in-game tournament ticket (that gives you a special hat that improves as you watch more i49 games) happen. Valve could kind of cheat the dynamic STV allocation by just providing their own STVs for just this event, but they'd have to do something about the shoutcasters :/.

Consider it a test run to see if there's demand for this kind of thing.

Honestly, if Highlander can attract tons of people mostly because of a small medal on your chest, a hat that gets sexier looking as you watch these tournament games should be big in TF2.

DotA is clearly the bigger and stronger game, but it's also more obvious ow the competitive scene benefits Valve there. Valve hasn't even tried to make the competitive scene benefit them in TF2 yet, and i49 would be a strong way to determine the validity of 6s as it is now.

I still dunno why ppl say this tbh tho, while yes they don't support TF2 nearly as much as DotA 2 for (HOPEFULLY) obvious reasons Team Fortress 2 is literally the game they supported most competitively prior to DotA. I mean, they legit have done more for this game than L4D1/2, CS 1.6/CS:S, and probably even CS:GO. They've added quite a bit for specifically just the competitive scene and a couple members of Valve have donated for things like i46 too.

3rd place

I have to agree that a class limit of 1 on each class seems way more sane and less exploitative as far as strats go.

See here is what is hanging people up though:

6s is more popular right now than it has ever been. There are more teams/players than ever, prize pool is bigger than ever, more viewers than ever (and way more viewers than Highlander), etc. Current 6v6 competitive TF2 as we know it is "blossoming".

This is something unknown that, if switched to in full force, will kill the current effort (which is so well loved i46 happened and now i49 is gonna have Australia there even!) and might not be as well liked and be smaller than the current scene.

It's risky, risks bother people. What if we switch to this and it isn't as attractive as thought to people at large? Could always go back to what we have now but stuff would essentially have to be rebuilt.