"Make them not feel alone"

The entire fucking community is already armed with torches and pitchforks. What more do you want?

lol @Muuki you went from 3 upfrags to 0 in 5 seconds.

"My virtue signalling 'there there' pat on the back is worth more than actually bringing justice"

You people are disgusting.

Uberchain had the courage to speak up about traumatizing events that happened to her, she can also mention the names of the perpetrators. They already know she's speaking about them, she could let us know so we can apply justice. If she's so willing to talk about extremely personal details about her life then she can name the offenders. I'm also not particularly happy about the whole "I won't name my abusers" spiel when she immediately follows it with "I wish society was better".

Well I guess I live in La La land where the problem is with the collective and that we're somehow meant to telekinetically fix the problem. It's a problem of specific individuals, not this mystical "society" thing. Let us fix it.

We are expending a dramatic amount of energy witch-hunting two morons who posted offensive online comments. People are getting up in arms and calling for them (and others like them) to be banned.

However, I'm a pragmatist. For as offensive as two online comments can be, they are not in any way comparable to blackmail, emotional manipulation and sexual abuse. I am being downfragged for considering genuinely traumatizing experiences to be worth more than online comments and debate over whether or not someone using the nickname "nig of the nog" is ban-worthy racism. Do you understand my frustration at this whole circus?

For as long Uberchain refuses to mention names, these people will continue to wander through our community unharmed and unbanned, free of any persecution and free to sexually abuse another person in the future. My aim is to bring these people to justice and this can only be done if we actually identify them. Failure to do this is not only a failure in justice but also negligence which can lead to the abuse of more victims. No, I will not sit down and accept this. I will not allow actual monsters to get to sneak away from the spotlight because we're all channeling our rage to internet comments. One is not like the other.

If this paints me as unsympathetic then so be it. True sympathy means wanting to bring justice to the offenders and prevent future harm.

So

Do we know the names of the people who, you know, actually physically and emotionally abused Uberchain, sexually even, so that we can ban them too?

I'm just asking because, like, I don't know if I'm just living in a different reality or something but where's the naming and shaming for actual sexual predators?

Am I retarded or are you retards giving more of a shit to the dumb comments posted by two weebs than you are to the (apparently unnamed??) abusers who made Uberchain suffer?

I cba to read all this drama

Did she end up naming the people who abused her or no?

Idiot

Yeah I'm attacking the cosmetics and I dislike the fact that they are as widely popular as they are, but that proves my point that it is we, the consumer base, who are inevitably responsible for these practices. "We" (in a global sense) happily forgo unique artstyle for flashy unfitting cosmetics like Kanye glasses and brony balloons. We turn a blind eye to literal gambling. We are happy to blame Valve (or Blizzard, or whomever who also does it) but refuse to take any personal responsibility.

Before we can find solutions we must honestly identify the problem and the problem lies also within us.

Alternatively if the consumer base does not want to change then we deserve the consequences that come with it. I just consider it unfair that I also have to deal with the consequences of events that I never wanted. It is "you" (in a global sense) who are trampling on my thing, not the other way around.

TF2 popularized this microtransaction garbage that has now become the ingrained metagame in the entire industry. It is predatory gambling aimed at children, which is not only illegal in of itself in many nations but Belgium even went as far as taking extra steps to help curb that. Don't you see? It's not just "stop liking what I don't like", it is literally immoral and illegal (and I'm also annoyed by the fact that it contributes to the cesspool).

TF2 did not have to either whore itself to garbage MTX practices or go the way of the Dodo.
TF2 did not have to introduce gambling MTX specifically, it could simply adopt a "pay X for Y". Boom, no longer illegal.
TF2 did not have to take a shit all over the original game art design. Boom, the game's soul is preserved.

Am I seriously the only one who thought about this? I highly doubt that. You're justifying the path the game went down without once asking yourself if other alternatives could've been presented. I am criticizing the popular apathy and notion that our choices as consumers do not have direct, negative impact on the markets. Why is it so hard to accept this?

"Yeah, I know, but I frankly don't care."

If people would say this then they'd at least be honest. Personally, I care and I gave my reasons why.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1W5DU4zmAA

You've seen this video before, I know you have, but do you believe that the culture that has been developed from these changes has been worth it? Do you think TF2 had no other options to keep itself afloat? Was it worth it to get random ads from trader mains trying to scam you? Was it worth it to give phishers a greater reason to prey on steam users? This thread wouldn't need to exist at all.

It's not "stop liking what I don't like" because these actions don't exist in a vacuum that don't affect other people. If they did then I'd concede, but that's not the reality.

But hey I guess all this can be ignored by calling me an autist for caring about a game that I sunk thousands of hours into, as if you nerds also didn't do the same.

>I cannot provide a rebuttal

Apologetics like yourself are the entire reason why "vote with your wallet" type of protests always fail. You are addicted to the cheap and instant dopamine gratification of skins in the same way that a child is addicted to sugar sweets. You enable the corporate metagame that turns entertainment venues that used to be treated with artistic passion into a glorified slot machine that ends up aggressively preying on children. You're precisely the type of person that only acknowledged the problem of CSGO gambling websites once hip youtubers like h3h3 criticize it. I judge because these selfishly apathetic attitudes do have an impact on the market (regardless of whether you'd like to pretend that it doesn't) and because it ends up negatively affecting things that I care for, such as the quality in the entertainment industry of videogames.

Those attitudes are the reason we went from this:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/4d/86/3b/4d863bbf630ccad88f68229894c3a0e8.jpg

To this:

https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/thumb/4/43/Taunt_balloonibouncer.png/250px-Taunt_balloonibouncer.png

You have no soul.

Normies downvote me.

Mfw the 6v6 meta is so cancer that the community tries to invent new map designs to make it bearable.

If your criticism is that defense and stalemating is too OP then you need to forgo gamemodes that enable defense and start promoting gamemodes that benefit aggression. These gamemodes already exist, they're called KOTH and Payload - the latter being a bit too slow paced to really function in a 6v6 context.

What both of these have in common is a time based pressure. That is, I claim, the pressure that is needed. After all, in 5CP games it is only when a team is losing and the clock is running out that we begin to see them go for more desperately aggressive plays.

It would be interesting to see a ETF2L season with two KOTH maps instead of one just to see what impact this would have on the meta.

>trading in 2018
>feeding the corporate meta that turns games into glorified slot machines

You deserve this

TF2C is not an extension of ETF2L, ESEA, UGC, TFTV or any other professional league/community that takes itself seriously. Attempts at a merger have failed in the past due to disagreements. I understand the passionate desire for the established competitive community to provide something of the degree TF2C provides, but one must wonder why previous attempts at it failed.

It is our community that is responsible for the barrier between pubbing and competitive. Years and years have shown that the average pubber will get disappointed when he discovers that he's not allowed to play a particular class, run particular unlocks or play a particular playstyle because it is "not meta". They can do this in TF2C. Is this why TF2C is popular but everything else attempted by the far more dominant, populous, well administered and global network of competitive TF2 ends up becoming unpopular? I don't know, but it at the very least warrants a "maybe".

Whatever it is TF2C is doing, however cancer it may be to us, it works. You claim that they are turning people away from the competitive scene but I claim that they have enabled more clueless pubbers to have a taste of it than anything anyone else did. I don't fucking like them but I'm not interested in a circlejerking rant about them which will accomplish nothing more at the end of the day than us feeling good about ourselves about sticking it to "the man".

Have some self-awareness and wonder why they might regard us with hostility.