https://youtu.be/ADbODXqUrcw

I guess you could just be happy with the comp scene remaining a niche mediocrity, nothing wrong with not having exposure, but I don't see the point in getting hyped over his comments then.

He isn't going to like the community that much when he realizes that 1/3rd of the casual matches are filled with swarms of hacking bots, the majority of community servers are awful x100 cp_orange maps and the average player is statistically speaking a trader main or a trading bot. Plus, we have enough youtubers dicking around in pubs whose exposure may boost the game, but not the competitive scene at all. It's the comp players who, so starved of attention, have been reaching out for him and building up that friendly welcoming attitude.

EDIT: One must also consider his primary reason: views. If he doesn't get views he'll just go and do something else instead. To get views you need content and the content that TF2 provides is shameful in comparison to other games. Remember, this is what we're competing with: https://youtu.be/dWVFBbE_l7U

TF2 does not provide any really outstanding or dramatically original content. Sure you get a new map every now and then, but even the most professional ones that do get included in the Valve map pool aren't anything stunning anymore. The content he has to milk here are saturated, outdated and broken content, such as:

• MvM
  
• Mannpower (lol)
  
• Saxton Hale gamemode
  
• A child infested x100 orange server
  
• Jump maps
  
• The hacker-filled casual matchmaking experience
  
• The dead and pathetic competitive matchmaking experience
  
• Showing off cosmetics (skins, unusuals, taunts)
  
• The occasional holiday event
  
• The TF2 competitive scenes

This list looks very poor to me. The ideal strategy would be to do the proven thing and just copy all the other successful youtubers: pubbing and hoarding cosmetics.

"What about jumping?"
Look at the disaster that was Jump Academy: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0lIJMfXEmKB1Svbn6OjJNQ

They made a couple popular videos and everything else struggled to hit the thousand viewer mark.
Same thing for Jump of the Week: https://www.youtube.com/user/TF2RJweekly

Search "TF2" in youtube and one of the top videos is a video about "competitive spy" uploaded 1 week ago where (assuming by the thumbnail) some obnoxious weeb retard is going around being useless to his team as a spy main in Meat-your-Match. It got 400'000 views. 400k. In one week.

Meanwhile a masterpiece like this uploaded 8 months ago has 53k views: https://youtu.be/vqlOTEtGhQk

With numbers like these you can't expect him not to degenerate into the polar opposite of what we want.

Don't be too nice. Reel him into the competitive scene specifically and don't let go. The greatest challenge is making the competitive scene interesting enough to guarantee him views.

Back in the day of the WAR! update, Demoman's Pipe and Sticky launchers were switched in the item menu, meaning that if he had won it'd replace pipes and we'd probably see the stickies switch over to the official primary weapon.

Nesh

>One of the best snipers in the world
>Forsak3n insists he goes sniper instead

Why I will never understand

Wasn't there a rumor going on that Valve was going to support it as a competitive gamemode back in the day?

o b e y

Yaoo

ping > net_graph > scoreboard

He banned me
downvoted

he didn't give me mod SMOrc

Used to play with 3cm/360

Epic

The rant had nothing to do with you or the argument, I apologize. I felt the need to express it. Good response; MGE really does require some form of consensus on what etiquette should be like, for I understand the criticisms you get regardless of what you do - I think everyone gets it.

yes

no

Neither DM nor MGE are accurate representations of a proper 6v6 match. You are not aided in any realistic capacity by teammates and neither are the fights accurate reflections of what you'd encounter in the game. This is the entire point as to why you're not supposed to delay your death (because in a real match an enemy scout would pop out of nowhere and finish you off) and also why the arena picked ultimately does not matter (because the fights you have in Spire MGE will never happen in 6v6). You will never find yourself in a position where you're sat on the granary mid crates waiting for the enemy soldier to jump and have a fair fight. The arena doesn't matter, this is ultimately why Ammomod is the correct one. No bullshit, no hiding, no gay tactics, you fight and try to kill the opponent before he can kill you - to accomplish this you have to hit harder (see: more accurately) and faster. These are the skills you can hone in DM and MGE.

Positioning, teamwork and everything else is only trained by playing in the 6v6 format and preferably with an actual team that you can gel with and become accustomed to. Mixes and pugs aren't guaranteed to take things seriously and the dice-roll of being allocated different players forces you to rely more on individual traits (like DM) than on teamwork traits.

But at the end of the day: MGE lords are gay. There's an excess of DM prods and a lack of strong cohesive teams that last multiple seasons together. If I'm allowed to veer off-topic for a quick rant: there's a poisonous mentality permeating ETF2L (I'm not sure about other leagues) of players depositing too much faith on their individual prowess and trying to gun for the highest available positions rather than to hone their teamworking skills with likeminded individuals. Highlander in particular is a mess.