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As with most such "rules", there were occasionally exceptions to the twelve regeneration limit. The High Council offered the Master a new regenerative cycle if he rescued the various incarnations of the Doctor from the Death Zone. (TV: The Five Doctors) Although he did not receive this award on that occasion, during the Last Great Time War the Master was given the ability to regenerate at least once more. (TV: Utopia) It was implied he could regenerate further. (TV: Last of the Time Lords)

They are going back to Gallifrey, so it's completely possible to get another set.

Then the game would already be dead. Consider the split of UGC and ESEA. The split of HL and 6's.
You're saying that will kill TF2, but that has not happened in the past and there is no proof that it will happen in the future. What's the worst that can really happen? Say has of TF2 from ESEA goes to CEVO for a season, and it doesn't work, they just go back to ESEA. No harm, no foul.

Are you saying that is half the people going to CEVO, ESEA will just shutdown the TF2 div?

I'm getting so sick of people saying "that it's going to kill the game", there has been countless arguments against this, yet very few arguments to prove that without ESEA the game will die. I am not even going to bother going over them again since some people are just completely ignoring those arguments and instead I want those people to prove to me that it will be the death of TF2.

The main argument seems to be that we would lose top level people if there is no LAN, thus no one would care about top level TF2 since TF2 would be losing the greats. I've heard this argument often after a few top level players decide that they're no longer playing TF2 and it yet to happen.
People will always take the place of others, yes, this season is a little different. Consider the reason why, when you add a new division that is bound to happen for a while.

As I said later in the post, I meant that it would've possible to go further with it. I also said that's it's my Theory after a certain point.

The problem is that you would have to believe the story that they have said and I am sorry but I don't believe it. Lpkane has told sooo many inconsistent answers for me to believe it anymore.
Meh, anyways, the thing that I will never understand (if it was a true story) is why you cannot uninstall the client. I just think there is way too many coincidences

I am not directly saying that they would do that either, but I also wouldn't have expected a company that makes a sizable profit to risk that profit to sneak code into their anti-cheat, nor would I expect that same company to make a client that is very difficult to un-install. Yet, they did.

Would they continue to do the same things, hell no. But you still have to wonder what the fuck was going in their heads to make a little bit extra money on the back of their subscribers makes me suspect how far they would've went to gain more money. No logically person would do this for, maybe, an extra 2-3% profit.

I don't think that OSHA and what ESEA has to do is completely different. OSHA does not have the man power to be at all workplaces to deem them safe, so it takes employees to call them in order to check. While in this case, ESEA is required to have a paid position to be in house (well in computer land) to oversee all aspects of privacy. In your analogy, it's liking having an OSHA agent in house at all times watching over you.

I am not really refuting what you're saying, only pointing out what they agreed to is very different and hard to imagine giving that much power away from yourself within your own business.

One thing that people haven't said is if the LAN is moved out of Dallas, it's likely the price of flights would be cheaper. Dallas has always been an expensive place to fly into.

There is a couple of truths, some misinformation, and tons of speculation regarding the ESEA trial. I had our work lawyers quickly look over a few documents yesterday so I want to point out a couple things that they said.

1) This was a civil trial, not a criminal. It's unlikely that a criminal trial would even work very well, since there is very little federal laws protecting internet privacy for the population.
2) The State of NJ is in a tough spot, even if they really want to push to lawsuit, it would be a tough thing for a state to do with limited technical "experts" While they are required by law to only say what they believe is the truth, it's generally going to be a truth that one person explains to the ADA.
3)Something about, I forgot this part b/c he was talking quickly, without fed support it becomes more difficult since it's not just NJ residents.
4) The amount of money that NJ would have to spend on a trial like this would be VERY hefty, since it would involve many paid computer experts that states do not generally employ at the state and local level with typically state trials. This would make them always want to settle.
5) Even though the defendants did not admit guilt, it gives a good start for the class action suit to start probing.

Regarding the AC, which he couldn't say anything about, so this is all me.

Yes, how the court document explains it, is how an AC needs to work. But, there is a few things that has bothered me to the point that I got banned for asking them.

1) People within the TF2 community explains that the bitcoin did not effect but no one can completely say that is true. I think this because I pushed Lpkane on the uninstall issue very hard, after the ban, I came back using my VPN and became an ass and pushed harder. I am not sure if the post of his is still there, but he responded with something like "how do you expect me to answer a question like that with the class action still in front of me.

2) Regarding the inability to uninstall, which has been proven to be true, why would you code this into an AC? If you need to the client active to get into ESEA servers, and active to stay in ESEA servers, there would be no reason for an AC to act like that since after it's off, cheating is nothing to ESEA. Consider the fact that you can have a VAC ban and still play ESEA.

3) If the AC can reinstall itself, what would've stopped it from becoming active on a hidden startup. While this DIDN'T happen yet, if the bitcoining wasn't found, this could've been a future addition.

4) This is part lawyer question and part mine. Why would a business give up so much of his day to day decision making if there wasn't more wrongdoing that could be found. Yes, money could be a factor, but in the end you are forcing a 3rd party to have the last call. Depending on the person and the new privacy statement, this could mean that the traditional ways that an AC cheats works MAY not be allowed. That could force a huge drop in subs, which in the long run could be worse than the 1 million full fine.

I have more, but I think this is getting long and I'm starving so I will add more later.

Even if everyone moved to Cevo, you still wouldn't be able to say that :P

I'm in, Looking for Cevo team

I'll shoot you an email, but would you us link you to ESEA stats instead of your forums, since there would be more info? If so, before I link it I would like to say that the ban was for saying that people should leave ESEA and go to ETF2L/Cevo

I have a g400 that I can give away to the second place "winner"

I'm too scared to say what I want, I can't get banned from BOTH tf.tv and ESEA.

What the hell did June do to even get banned?