This is Europe, adapt or die interlopers

Don't worry, nobody with any following no matter how big will affect how MM works out. He's baiting for responses to maintain his profile, this irrelevant non-entity of an empty vessel makes the loudest noise

It seems a lot like a "I heard stuff but I don't want to accidentally leak anything any more" non-apology to me, but if he shuts up about it all I guess it works. Having annoyed him a lot yesterday I have no desire to hound him day after day.

Forza Italia!

None really, I just called him out on his fictional account

My first twitch ban. It was worth it and well earned

You've backed off from all specifics, said that identifying this guy as a risk on the basis of mental illness was impossible, asserted that the level of gun control huge swathes of the populations of developed nations live under is impossible in the US, and despite that refused to engage in even the acknowledgement that other measures might be fruitful. Are you in politics by any chance?

Here's an alternative, he was so bad at hiding his behaviour he was investigated by the FBI. Seeing as he's been in contact with law enforcement that was an obvious missed opportunity. How could that be improved upon? No mental health professionals required.

Also despite the accusations of vague arguments and inflexibility I haven't insulted your intelligence yet, something you seem to be quite fond of handing out to people who disagree with you. Not a debate winner

No it applies to what I said, so you're just trying to narrow the debate into terms you prefer. Again. You're the one who brought psychology into it, how he was raised is unfortunately likely to be highly relevant. Sorry you now have to contradict yourself.

If you're speaking from a position of ignorance then I don't think there's a contribution there, you're merely attempting to narrow the debate to a frame of reference that you personally are more comfortable with when you have absolutely no idea that it will go anywhere. In fact you could be promoting quite the opposite of a solution. What's required is the broadest possible assessment with policy guided by solutions that actually have a chance of working.

Gun control is a collective decision, plenty of other places in the world choose it although it might not have prevented this crime as it doesn't prevent all crimes elsewhere. Unless you're citing research into mass shootings, the mental state of their perpetrators and what intervention is possible then you're just hand waving in the most vague way possible.

Of course mass murderers aren't in a normal state of mind, but I'd have rather he had a knife instead or hadn't been brought up being told that homosexuality is an aberration before God (or taught hatred in other words). Simplism is exactly one of the things that led to this. Solutions won't be simple.

And what is your diagnosis, or is it just "mentally ill"? Do you think his faith may have played any part in the development of his condition?

It's just as absurdly simplistic to say "it's not guns, it's mental illness" as it is to say "it's Islam". Obviously he's not in a normal mental state, obviously he has some kind of deep psychological aggression towards homosexuality which is also a feature of his apparent faith, and if current reports are to be believed he visited the place often himself so his sexuality and his own problems with facing it may be a part of it.

How on earth do you identify this and stop him owning a gun?

You seem to have neatly dodged what mental illness you think was relevant in this shooting

Forza Italia!

There is a business strategist/analyst on the team

What mental illness are you diagnosing the shooter with?

No one is ever going to pay you for playing kritz demo in a pub. Stop dreaming son