https://clips.twitch.tv/GentleStupidBillYee-3hnYb1wR3jIY3PDM

Thank you Fubar for everything you've done, you've put in so much time and effort into this version and we as a community are lucky to still have you around to update the map.

Congratulations!

the Picasso of HUDs

https://i.imgur.com/W5LAlB4.jpeg

you can still do it - https://streamable.com/20vln3
its as a result of improving the clipping around the hut, ended up lowering the rooftop a bit too much resulting in harder scout jump

this update brought some issues with it so make sure to post anything you find in this or the snakewater thread as the mapper will be reading these threads for any feedback you find

I made a quick album so you can compare here - https://imgur.com/a/Thu7I88

We are working on a way to allow users to quickly compare with an image slider on all of the maps the team has worked on, something like this - https://i.imgur.com/2bZb9Wa.png

This map was originally supposed to be a full on pro version with major changes to the map, however since harris0n agreed to join the Refresh team we got to an understanding that we want to make sure we change as little as possible in terms of things that can be considered major gameplay changes.

The "major" changes that harris0n listed are for the community to decide whether or not he went too far, we try and change as little as possible about the maps that the community played for years as inherently they are good however they need an updating.

Now again, if players feel we went too far and changed things that feel extreme we do listen to feedback and revert changes, like we did to cp_process_f5 after you've raised concerns about in the thread, and similarly we are working with league admins to revert and fix changes that we made to cp_gullywash_f2a.

I'll let Collaide respond to the gullywash comment himself but from my perspective seeing this breaks my heart as he spent so many hours making sure the map is perfectly aligned to the grid and isn't a mess from 2009, the fact he placed it in the "Minor changes" section, he really meant that as a joke because 99% of the players will never notice the difference.

The major changes are all listed, and if you feel like we went too far, please, tell us in the threads.

I'll try running through the biggest changes harris0n made in terms of gameplay to this version of cp_steel_f1, and as I can't know for sure if they all will be good enough to keep for the next version I won't claim they are all 100% positive, but we hope it will create more good than bad, I'll let harris0n comment on those himself as well.

A point:
-Bridge from hill to red spawn and a fenced wall - https://i.imgur.com/nDNYxK0.jpg

B point:
-Widened the stairs leading to the highground - https://i.imgur.com/rncY8EH.jpg
-Added a new doorway into B spawn dropdown via outside - https://i.imgur.com/Yt6Oluf.jpg
-Extended B's sentry porch - https://i.imgur.com/sNYuyuQ.jpg

C point:
-Extended the defence's bridge making the jump from the control point and back possible - https://i.imgur.com/MSXI3i1.jpg

D point:
-Added windows to the D+E Connector - https://i.imgur.com/GIukqI5.jpg

E point:
-Converted sniper perch windows both into wider windows, removing the pole in the middle - https://i.imgur.com/EXBRJrG.jpg

These are the biggest changes in cp_steel_f1, I agree that some of these changes might be too big to be considered a simple 'Refresh' but this is where you come in and we appreciate the feedback, we will work to revert changes that went too far.

could you elaborate on this?
process_f7 was released about a week ago, with additional fixes and the refresh team reverted and fixed things the RGL admin has expressed concerns about in the map thread.

well, thanks to "Liam Stone (boba)", spies cloaks are fixed!

https://streamable.com/l8kj7j

edit - update: the guy who made it is aware of the issue

https://i.imgur.com/aIsf0mK.png

this happened to me in csgo, what fixed it was for me was disabling fullscreen optimization

https://clips.twitch.tv/SoftPunchyCheesecakeKappaRoss

How many times have you spoken to Valve about our scene?
And was there a time where you thought they might actually support our game like they do to CS and Dota?
How disappointed were you after the publicized visit went so well but afterwards the support stopped?

I want everyone to pay close attention to this quote.
even when showing remorse or trying to apologize for what was said, there are still people who don't think it's enough, what else do you expect a person who said something wrong to do?

This is what worries me, ETF2L admins actively chasing people that they find saying offensive things outside their league, where does it end? where is the line drawn in what we can say privately to each other without the fear that someone might take a screenshot and use it against the player whenever he pleases.

ETF2L are setting a dangerous precedent here, going beyond their bounds as a league & forums, actively banning people for anything they find offensive, and now that they handed a 5 year ban, whats stopping them from going around handing more bans like these to anyone they find offending them?

I really am curious to know ETF2L's explanation on this decision, on why VAC banned cheaters are only banned for 1 year while offensive language can get you banned for 5 and on where they draw the line when they are actively trying to punish people for speaking offensively?

I've contacted several ETF2L admins already and so far only 1 admin responded (Head AC admin - Amaterasu) in this thread and didn't even acknowledge the topic.
Can it really be this way? a community run league not even bothering trying to explain their controversial decisions?

http://etf2l.org/2020/02/22/saturday-evening-bans-and-staff-changes/

https://i.imgur.com/hZ94SJW.png

I don't know this person, I don't know what he said and I wouldn't agree with whatever he said but this is a beyond ridiculous decision I really can't comprehend. obviously "showing extreme disrespect" can be very offensive for the admins but handing out one of the longest bans ETF2L has ever given is not proportionate.

a caught VAC banned cheater gets banned for 1 year and then gets welcome back like nothing happened, this person says offensive things and gets banned for 5 years?

I hope ETF2L can clarify why they think banning someone for 5 years for writing mean words on their website deserves to be banned from competing for half a decade.

https://clips.twitch.tv/IcySmallCheddarBlargNaut - he deleted the clip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rn_Pqt3TmPE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5BehApfT6Q