Thoughts?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfAv_LSUxLc

http://forums.tf2maps.net/showthread.php?t=18367

So as some of you may or may not be aware, I will be hosting a 6v6 and Highlander tournament after ESEA S12.

http://teamfortress.tv/forum/thread/447-north-american-tf2-6s-highlander-tournament/

Now, I want to get some opinions on Highlander. A very informed highlander player has helped me a little, but this is still a problem... he's just ONE person and doesn't represent the whole community. While his ideas were very good and very helpful, I need support and discussion from the rest of the community.

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Hi I'm OtakuScott

http://teamfortress.tv/forum/thread/447-north-american-tf2-6s-highlander-tournament

We had to play 5 v 6. IRL issues with one of our players that literally came up at the last minute.

No she dropped it

Okay so guys, last night I had a gpit match right. But before the match, I had to go to the bathroom, so I went. When I came back out, there was this drunk chick standing outside. She started hitting on me and then we moved to my room. So then she went on my bed. And then I played my match. She watched me.

Did I do the right thing?

Alright, awesome. Thanks

I've updated the highlander list on the website.

Does anyone know where the POVs from i46 are at? Specifically LG and mix^.

Alright, sounds good.

Man I've been out of weapon stuff for a long time. So I guess the shortstop is okay, Righteous Bison (I'm pretty sure) penetrates multiple targets, Gonna ban Persian Persuader, allow Brass Beast, tomislav, cleaner's carbine, cozy camper, and spi cicle.

Manmelter: The Manmelter had just come out, and that's why it was banned. To be honest, it doesn't seem that bad (in comparison to the Phlog). Although it doesn't require ammo, and that's not good.

Third Degree: Can attack the medic without actually attacking the medic

Neon Annihilator: Also just came out, actually isn't that bad. Might be a little useless to Pyros. UNBANNED IN HIGHLANDER

Loch N Load: The pipes fly really fast and do extra damage, allowing one shots on targets. Due to some weird fluke they're easier to hit with than the Direct Hit.

101 Demoknights Set: These weapons aren't so bad on their own, but together they form an overpowered set.

Wee Booties: Giving the demoman extra health and free range to sticky everything doesn't sound right to me.

Natascha: It's sort of always been banned because it was overpowered for the longest time. It's pretty much just a trolling weapon these days.

Brass Beast: The damage is really massive, and it kills sentries and players too fast.

Tomislav: Used to be OP, kind of Blows now. Still silent. Will have to consider.

Dalokohs Bar: Seems okay to use in Highlander, UNBANNED

Family Business: Not bad either, UNBANNED

Warrior's Spirit: Little weird and a bit pointless for Heavy, UNBANNED

Fists of Steel: Allows the heavy to absorb too much damage

Eviction Notice: Not bad (heavies shouldn't be running around meleeing everything anyways). UNBANNED

Short Circuit: This one is a little weird for me. In 6v6 it's really bad because HALF OF THE TEAM is a projectile weapons class. But in Highlander, there are only 2. UNBANNED?

Gunslinger: The mini sentries are easier to deal with in Highlander than 6s. UNBANNED

Eureka Effect: Really, this weapon really limits the moving buildings buff, which was a very important update for Engineers. But it can be used UNBANNED

Solemn Vow: The solemn vow kind of gives the Medic too much information.

Sydney Sleeper: The point of sniper is to quickly take down targets, something that is lost by using this weapon. Also it is mostly used as a trolling weapon.

Hitman's Heatmaker: The extra focus could make it much easier to take down large classes such as the heavy... but it requires aiming to use... I'll have to think about it.

Cozy Camper: Health Regen (although it says 1 per second, it's 2 per second when not under fire)

Cleaner's Carbine: This one is weird for me, guns that give critical hits. I'm not sure. Giving the Sniper rifle a crit could cause an instant kill body shot.

Enforcer: Does extra damage with real no draw back. It fire slower and gets no random crits. We don't deal with random crits anyways and firing slower isn't a big deal.

Spy-cicle: Silent Killer & Fireproofing

Feel free to post opinions :)

Liberty Launcher: The liberty launcher has that increased firing speed, but the same splash damage. It changes the way you have to dodge rockets. Although yes, it does have one less rocket, a good soldier always keeps at least 1 rocket loaded. And it only takes 2 rockets to kill most targets, anyway.

Black Box: What the hell I didn't put that there what the fuck. Running black box can be detrimental to your team, but you can still run it. I have no idea why I put that in there.

Rocket Jumper/Sticky Jumper: The two of these are used exclusively for trolling, and that should be kept to a minimum. What are you going to do with a Rocket Jumper other than jump to the other side of the map and the Market Garden the other team? If you want to do that, more risk should be involved.

Cow Mangler: The cow mangler does not require ammo, that is why it is banned. Pure and simple.

Righteous Bison: See Cow Mangler

Concheror: Hmm...I don't know. Ya know what.... UNBANNED FOR HIGHLANDER

Disciplinary Action: The disciplinary action allows certain classes to get to mid faster, without them having to sacrifice anything.

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(Phew this is gonna be long)

Baby Face's Blaster: Just came out, was immediately banned. To be totally honest, it almost seems like a whole new playstyle of scout. It doesn't actually seem all that overpowered or broken. I could consider adding this to Highlander, though I doubt many would use it (as jumping + speed are a main thing for scout)

Shortstop: This weapon, for some reason, always seems to annoy me. It seems to do extra damage as well as the slowing down effect. Weapons should hurt players, not hinder them.

Bonk: Bonk allows Scouts to escape situations that they normally would die in, and it also can be used to body block or distract sentries without wasting the valuable Ubercharge (which the Sentry is used to force).

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