League is the same way, except when you play in tournament mode, you have access to everything.

You can make a case for literally everything slowing down the game, or being a crutch. Its starting to get grating to hear it non-stop.

What was the difference?

Idk man, once i started getting into dota, captains mode stood out to me as a very obvious mechanic that was in place to prevent counterpicking.

Plus, which is more confusing: watching a few competitive games without pub weapons ever being even mentioned? Or watching a few competitive games where the weapons each team can and cant use is determined for everyone right at the beginning.

Meant too slow. It was a typo.

Is tf2 as strategic as cs? Serious question, I don't know all that much about cs.

turn rate is limited, if thats what you mean. Within the cone in front if you, you can aim however you want, but making big turns is limited. You can also do a quick 180 by moving back and pressing shift.

I remember really hating it when i first played it, but i didnt mind it in this go. Maybe they changed it? maybe i just knew to expect. Idk.

Has anyone else played hawken since it has been released on steam?

I remember playing when it was first release and remembered it being too fast for a strategic mech game, and too fast for an fps. Since then theyve upped the speed of gameplay by a lot, and its WAY more fun right now imo.

Its definitely worth another try if you havent played it in a while.

EDIT: found this clip on reddit. It kind of shows what you can do with the movement. http://www.twitch.tv/mrxacius/c/3853243

All this talk about too much variety causing too much randomness.

The pick/ban system is there SPECIFICALLY to address too much randomness/counterpicking/etc.

http://www.vh1.com/video/shows/acceptable-tv/139539/mister-sprinkles-part-1.jhtml

That first episode was ass tho, real talk. I'm glad I stuck through with it cause the stories are actually very compelling.

Okay, but do you think even that is true? Mobility on the scout doesnt just mean he gets places faster, but his movement is unpredictable. Mobility on the soldier means taking high ground, jumping into fights and escaping at a moments notice. the powerjack is something like the GRU, where it is only really useful in getting to places. The mobility it provides doesnt make the pyro better in combat like the scout or soldier mobility.

If i can hang my hat about pyro, I think the problem is how he has such an overwhelming advantage at very close range. Yes, different classes should be stronger in different situations, but most classes want to fight in close range anyway. Its the same sort of deal as heavy. Fights start to become kind of binary: did you get in his effective range or not? There are other hangups like afterburn, but imo that is the biggest problem with pyro as a combat class.

The dominant strategy for scout vs. pyro is to just stay out of range and hit him with 40 damage shots until he dies. Doesnt sound especially fun.

Not super sure what youre trying to say here. Youre saying that pyros bad mobility is a balancing factor of the class, but the powerjack (which is p much a 100% upgrade) is fine? And that the soldier needs an buff to a melee that has been nerfed 3 times in a row and is STILL used the most of any soldier melee to be on par with pyro?

Is this a fair comparison though?

Powerjack is better than EP, sure. But pyro as a whole is way worse, and has shit mobility.

Its like asking to buff the flamethrower cause its so much worse than the rocket launcher. or increasing the soldiers movespeed cause its slower than scout.

I believe it allows you to set the delay between damage number batching.

So you can set it to 2.0, and have it add up all the damage you do to each target as long as it is within 2 seconds of each other.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Who cares. Dont watch the stream, if you dont like seeing it.