1. Yes
2. Yes, but not via the monitor, only via OS/drivers.
3. Nothing. You need to change/remove the fps caps in some games though (e.g. Unreal Engine caps to 62)
4. ?
5. No, I wouldn't recommend using it anyway.
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#59
Depends on how weird TF2 acts, but you should definitely be getting enough fps. The 212 Evo might not be sufficient to overclock a 4770K, you might want to consider the Noctua NH-D14 or the Phanteks TC14PE (fancy colours).
#61
It's about the binning. Nonetheless for games there's basically no advantage over the 4770K, if you don't use more than 2 GPUs (for that you should use LGA2011 anyway) there's no way to that the 4770K would bottleneck. With the 4960X you might be able to get high enough clockrates to overcome the Haswell IPC advantage, but then we're talking about a 1000$ CPU + 100-200$ for cooling being slightly faster (single digit percentages) than a 300$ CPU + <100$ for cooling (and a cheaper mobo aswell), so yeah...
Logical threads? Even though everyone seems to think an i7 got 4 physical and 4 logical cores this isn't the case. There are 8 logical cores inside 4 physical cores.
Windows is pretty bad at balancing the load between the physical cores and at utilizing Hyperthreading.
There's a huge difference between a 4670K and a 4770K when you get the 30% bug in TF2.
TF2 will use 8 threads on 8 logical cores at 30% cpu load on a 4770K, but only 4 threads on 4 logical cores at 30% cpu load on a 4670K (or at least it did when I disabled HT).
I don't know what's causing this and haven't been able to fix it.
#53
4GB limit is correct, but I've never heard of 32bit processes being limited to 2 threads.
Depends on the "performance updates" by valve.
I'm using a 4770K too (although with a 7970 GHZ) and on maxquality I'm usually getting stable 240 fps in 6s, some drops in HL and some random bad drops (worst I've had was 80) in pubs, because TF2 refuses to use more than 30% of the CPU. If I can fix the CPU usage problem I'll get 240fps constant, everywhere, all the time.
tl;dr
It'll destroy TF2, as much as it is possible after years of horrible updates.
For other games the GPU might be a bit of a bottleneck, especially on 120Hz (but you can always switch to 60Hz for demanding single player games e.g. Crysis 3).
#46
A few suggestions:
- Haswell instead of Ivy Bridge: cheaper CPU?!, mobo about the same price and you get better performance and a newer chipset
- a good air cooler instead of the Thermaltake Water 3.0 Pro: I've seen the Noctua NH-D14 beat it and it's cheaper and quieter. If you don't like the colours you could take look at the Phanteks TC14PE (lots of fancy colours, about the same price, slightly inferior mounting system, slightly better cooling performance, slightly louder)
- a good overclocking motherboard: There's no reason to spend that much money on a K processor and a cooler and then having your motherboard holding you back. The Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H is one of the best overclocking motherboards and pretty cheap for it's performance.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£149.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£64.90 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£134.24 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£63.20 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£44.35 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 270X 2GB Video Card (£152.46 @ CCL Computers)
Case: Xigmatek ASGARD PRO (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: OCZ ZT 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£71.34 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £680.48
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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#47
Haswell, better mobo, cheaper+better GPU, cheaper+better RAM (and the colours match the mobo)
With a 4670K
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($57.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($95.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: BenQ XL2420TE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($279.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K70 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder Black Edition Wired Optical Mouse ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1312.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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With a 4770K
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($57.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($95.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: BenQ XL2420TE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($279.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K70 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder Black Edition Wired Optical Mouse ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1407.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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Not overclockable:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus H87-PLUS ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($109.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $354.95
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-13 16:13 EST-0500)
Slight overlock possible:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $384.96
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-13 16:13 EST-0500)
To get high overclocks on Haswell you need
1. luck
2. an even better cooler
You could use the intel stock cooler and purchase a high-end aircooler (70-80$) instead of the 212 Evo later when you want to overclock.
Both Rosewill and Corsair manufacture a lot of good PSUs and a few not so good ones (mostly the really cheap budget units). Both are neither raidmax, coolmax, anything-max "stay away from it"-manufacturers nor are they on "you can't go wrong, it's just about how much you're willing to spend" seasonic level.
When in doubt look for reviews or for a quick check consult the OCN Reccomended Power Supplies List.
tl;dr
The Rosewill Capstone 650W is fine.
Animal doesn't know shit about computers!
#76
cl_interp 0 for both, setting cl_interp_ratio is enough.
#78
Apparently there was some major misunderstanding. TF2 is indeed running at 15ms, I don't know why we started arguing about that, the problem is that most servers use 66 maxrates instead of 66.67 or 67.
#79
1. Wireless is bad.
2. The default netsettings are bad
3. choke is bad, you want it to be 0.
That empy space means you didn't get any packets at all, which is bad too and a result of that massive choke.
Use these netsettings and wired (if possible) then try again.
//netsettings
//change these if necessary
rate 100000
cl_cmdrate 66
cl_updaterate 66
cl_interp_ratio 2
//don´t change these
cl_interp "0" //set by cl_interp_ratio
cl_lagcompensation 1
cl_pred_optimize "2"
cl_smooth "0"
cl_smoothtime "0.01"
You can use cl_interp_ratio 1 for projectile classes, just add it to the class configs, but don't forget to add cl_interp_ratio 2 to all other class configs if you do this.
#80
Use either cl_interp 0 for all, cl_interp_ratio 1 in the soldier.cfg and cl_interp_ratio 2 in all other classcfgs or use cl_interp_ratio 0, cl_interp 0.01515151515 in the solider.cfg and cl_interp 0.03030303 (or 0.033 if you think it's better) in all other class cfgs.
#83
No.
Maybe change fps_max to 288 if you use an fps cap.
120Hz Lightboost > 144Hz, so you might want to use LB if you can.
I never said that anything would exceed the tickrate?
It seems to show pretty random values (68.2 wtf?). Nonetheless the in and out values actually change.
I guess that means most serverconfigs are wrong and I need to set 67 rates.
Will look into this tomorrow, it's getting late here.
net_graph does indeed show to high values, but that is not the point.
On a dedicated server net_graph is showing the same values for both 66 and 67. Using the same assumption that you made, that net_graph scales linearly, which is not a given, I conclude that the TF2 client is actually sending and/or recieving 66.67 packets per second in both cases.
Since snapshots are taken at a rate of 15ms holding them back to get an intervall of 15.2ms just to meet user-specified values doesn't make any sense. If TF2 would use the values the user set speedhacking would be ridiculously easy. The fact that TF2 just plain ignores any values higher than 66/67 for cmdrate and updaterate tells me that this isn't the case.
This is exactly what I'm trying to tell him, but he doesn't listen.
CALM DOWN!
Ok, now answer this question: Does TF2 run at a tickrate of 15ms=66.67/s?
ETF2L used to force it to 1, don't know about other leagues. You can't block the cvar itself, just restrict it to certain values.
If it's forced to bs values just talk with the admins about that or send them here.