Hey gemm, thanks for the post, I won't respond to all right now of it but you said

Are you sure you're using TF2PL's reporting feature and not FACEIT's reporting feature? We have no way of reading into FACEIT's, I don't remember if there are any plans on letting us, I will ask again. The thumbs-down affect the FBI (in your profile), AFAIK we have no way of reading that either, and I doubt it affects anything in Hubs. Regardless, in Discord there's a #reporting channel with instructions on how to report bad actors, I do encourage adv/inv players to take the 30 seconds it takes to report someone, however I assume most just don't care enough to do so. Please do.

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rofl, im seeing a lot of top medics just denigrating this thread without realising that discussion isn't harmful and it's extremely unlikely that xbow is taken off the whitelist out of this

WhAT a GrEaT cOmMunIty Of iNtElLinGenT iNdiVIduAlS

Crossbow heals from 75 to 150 every 1.6 seconds, with the weapon switch speed moved to 0.5 seconds since Tough Break, this means an optimized healing sequence (shoot bolt, switch to beam, heal for .6 seconds, switch to bow, repeat) heals 75+(24*0.6) to 150+(72*0.6) every 1.6 seconds, or 89.4 to 193.2 every 1.6 seconds, or 55.875 to 120.75 per second. 55.875 is 2.328125 times bigger than 24, 120.75 is 1.677084 times bigger than 72.

I'm not making any points with these numbers, I was just wondering what they would be, and this is what I came up with.
I might be wrong, and optimized healing sequence doesn't translate to real world all the time.

My opinion is that the crossbow is fun to use, but too strong of an healing item. Any powerful healing item will favor the defending side over the attacking side, even though the direct effects can be equally shared, and here is why I think so:
- The defending team should be settled in optimal and superior position, whereas the attacking team will be forced through a predictable path and sub-optimal position, giving the defending team an obvious advantage
- From now on, as the attacking team are entering the fight with a disadvantage, any time spent during the fight *should* on average make said disadvantage bigger
- The crossbow (or any powerful healing tool) increases the average time spent fighting
This is how we end up, I think, with teams holding chokes safely and repeatedly attempting big plays to allow for either team to start off with a substantial advantage that would negate the disadvantage of not holding.

The crossbow is probably one of the most fun and rewarding traits of the Medic class, especially since I have no fucking clue what I'm doing, and I do think it's possible to simply tweak the numbers and keep it fun.

Hey Comanglia, I suggest you start a FACEIT Support ticket and get back to us if it gets resolved
EDIT: As a rule of thumb, we're much more responsive in Discord, help should definitely be asked there :)

I don't think anyone validated whether or not it made the game better, it could definitely fall into placebo, and it had (massive) drawbacks by changing some physics/weapons (ramp surfing, speedshotting, the wrangler)

Hey, I was gonna nerd-post again but I ended up busy and sick because of LAN.
https://gist.github.com/ldesgoui/743c1cb5d084e7bace5334c9413f31f8

If you like numbers but not reading, here's this:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UQ7VtDTBdAtZQ7ycqlbzpTE-ToJdWINkOZrn4lkKLJU/edit?usp=sharing

Really fucking good looking

Hello, could you upload b4b to the workshop ? Thanks very much

cmon u kno u wanna play this ;)

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/270746406212337675/424949640454995968/unknown.png

@Funs lets go ;)

wow u sure showed me.

consider urself Trolled.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/424322448260071435/427851716315185163/unknown.png

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/424322448260071435/427851778596536321/unknown.png

hint bc ur not getting it: it's not hard to have the moral/logical high ground when defending your position, regardless of what's being discussed, nothing will ever come out of it because admins are pussies regardless of who's right, nobody actually cares, people have the right to express frustration

ur not worth my time so heres a cool response i found on a website:

strawman
You misrepresented someone's argument to make it easier to attack.
By exaggerating, misrepresenting, or just completely fabricating someone's argument, it's much easier to present your own position as being reasonable, but this kind of dishonesty serves to undermine honest rational debate.

btw i predict ur gonna use the following so heres that

the fallacy fallacy
You presumed that because a claim has been poorly argued, or a fallacy has been made, that the claim itself must be wrong.
It is entirely possible to make a claim that is false yet argue with logical coherency for that claim, just as it is possible to make a claim that is true and justify it with various fallacies and poor arguments.

anyways lock this thread (and this account)

ur still going eh ?

edit: lets get this str8 because ur not understanding.
its not fun.
thats not objective but its a shared opinion of 90% of the community at this point.
even pubbers fucking hate it.
it just isn't fun to play and to play against anymore.
do you know what we do with unfun things?
we ban them, that's why we have a whitelist, that's why we have class limits, that's why we have a map pool, because the best way to play the game isn't the fun way to play the game.
fun is perceived, it's an opinion.
present your excuses to Jon underscore.