Is it me or are pages 2-6 comments totally different than page 7? Same movie...
My bad.
How would we have shot that storyline without major resources allowing us to go and interview people around the country about TF2? We barely had 3 days at the event to film. We were definitely limited by that.
Filmed them walking around the event? Showing the matches and their reactions? Touring where they were staying? Asking them questions about their ambition that drives them to participate in this event? Etc. Out of the entire film, there was only like 4 minutes of actual game footage related to the event. The other 26 minutes were interviews, and interviews, and more interviews with most of the content from that being really bland.
And if you were so limited, and you knew you had such little to work with, why was it such a "project" in the first place? That's like going to your teacher when your book report was due and saying "sorry teach, I didn't do enough research to write 4 pages so I only wrote 2" with the teacher responding "well then why did you accept that one if you could not complete it with the required 4" when 4 is the required or standard for the said report to make it decent or acceptable. And I do believe resources help to make a film great by giving more room to work with, however in no way does more resources mean a better film. You can throw money on a pile of horse feces, and it's still horse feces just with some extra green on it (Not calling this film horse shit, but I just love using comparisons if you haven't picked that up yet).
Wait till the "Free to Play" documentary from Valve about TI1. That's a much more proper documentary and the difference between the amount of resources available to eXtv and Valve is very apparent. Was awesome, wish we could have accomplished something closer to that, but it was difficult given our constraints.
I guess I shouldn't have used Free to Play as the comparison in the first place since it's a documentary on the lives of 3 professional Dota players, and not so much on one particular event, even though TI1 is tied into it. However I still believe the documentary on the TI2 event in my second post is still relevant. Sure, Valve has all the footage and angles to make such a high quality professional film, but honestly all I meant is the way they tied in the players, and the game. You seemed to not do this here. One minute Ruwin is on talking about how Pyyyour is his best buddy, and the next Pyyyour is talking about his "internet friends". How does this tie into the event at all? It's like all you asked them was "what do you think of this person?". You didn't even ask them how they got into competitive TF2, how they manage their free time, etc etc etc. Good real questions that a viewer could then bond with the players while they play in this Lan event. People who aren't a part of TF2 could then see what these players go through for their passion at this event and would like to dip their toe in TF2 comp. Anyone outside of our little bubble of TF2, or arguably outside of TF.TV will not get this film at all.
Next time, perhaps we could see where our stars stayed, how was their flight, meeting them in the airport. What's the story of each character of the most prominent teams in the european scene and the history of the NA players. 30 minutes of only b4nny, couldn't hurt (seriously).
There's a lot of things you can do, like interview the managers of insomnia, get deep in the TF2. Asking players "Why is the community so awesome and yet TF2 isn't like starcraft 2?" "Why we don't need TF2 being like starcraft 2?" "What differences tf2 community from csgo community" "Predictions?" "What gear do you use?" "How they got into competitive". Or maybe adding more narration, i would like to see the players being treated as animals in their habitats (NatGeo style).
I liked the documentary, but i felt it too short. Like it wasn't on your head to make the documentary in the first place and you had a lot of material and then decided to make the documentary because why not. This time you have the australian scene, so we the donors and community would like to have a record of this event, and we trust you to make it an extraordinary documentary.
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We didn't shoot 300 hours of material(like the Indie Game film), have professional gear and multiple crews who operated with no time limits(Valve) or were highly experienced film makers. We winged it quite well considering our level of experience and free time to edit and produce it(little to none). I edit, design and mix sound for a living, but just like Luc, Jeff, Eric and anyone else part of this production, there are jobs and lives taking up our time in which film making is a hobby, not a full time job.
"Winged it" implies going in without experience. So you can't really wing something well when comparing it to going in knowing what you're doing. You can wing a presentation yes, however you will always do better at that same presentation if you don't wing it.
Why did you push a full film then if you were just winging it? What was the goal? As the quote above this one states, it just looks like you guys got interviews then just randomly decided to piece it all together and slam a title on it to make it look more official. We as the viewers don't set the bar for a film, the people making the film do. If you would've just released a video like this and it was just interviews of players at the event and there wasn't really anything else with a simple "here you go guys sorry it took so long to get these interviews from i46 to you", then I wouldn't have any fault in it. But the way this film was pitched to us the last year and how much of a cool thing it was going to be, in other words a hype train, it really became lack luster when it came out and you're sitting there watching a year of anticipation and hype slowly drain from you. Where did that year of editing go towards? The opening? The diagrams? Surely it doesn't take a year for someone to piece a few videos together in Sony Vegas (example). Yes, you have lives I respect that but it seems like at this point, that is being used as more of an excuse rather than an actual liable reasoning to why there was so much of a higher standard set here only to be dropped way down especially when it's the result of a year's work and effort...
Maybe I'm just expecting too much? I don't know.