Would you say that this change helps defenders more than attackers?

Good finds, cheers!

Hey everyone,

At long last I've been able to work with the changes and bugfixes you've suggested.

Here's the current updated version: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2447457/cp_snakewater_u1.bsp.bz2

Changelog u1:

* Loads of small clipping fixes, the map should be a LOT smoother to play now
* Loads of visual fixes
* Slightly tweaked last, adding a fence and moving the ramp slightly. Image: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=643766053
* Rotated the little balcony near the shacks at mid. This change might be reverted if it's impopular.
* Added an awning to prevent spam from the walkway above grass connector
* Fixed spawnpoints
* Changed BLU Lobby to mirror RED
* The old sky is back! Hooray!

If you get to playtest this version, please give me your feedback! There are likely to be a thousand new bugs for the hundreds that I fixed, so your bugfinding skills are always appreciated.

Cheers,
chojje

Hey everyone,

I'm chojje, the author of cp_snakewater. I was approached recently by Fubar about updating Snake, and when discussing it with Valve they thought it would be a good time to do so two years after its release.

Specifically, Fubar brought up a problematic sentry spot which rendered the final point stale in Highlander. I will try to resolve this problem, and do a complete overhaul of the map where I take any feedback from the two last years into account.

So my question for the competitive community right now is the state of the map in both the 6s and Highlander scene.

* Is there any particular area which is problematic/not fun?
* Are there any glitches that have been abused in competitive play?
* What is the general opinion on Snakewater in the various formats?

I'm really glad to see the map still being played competitively, and I'll be really happy to take any feedback into consideration when updating the map! If anybody wants to playtest the upcoming versions, please send me a PM and I'd love to join in or survey the playtesting.

Thanks for your assistance,
chojje

As I haven't seen the version released in the game, I can't tell. Most likely it will be very similar to g7, with some minor bugfixes.

And yes, I will definitely be able to make updates in the future, as long as the community demands it.

I'll definitely pick it up again some time soon!

Yay!

Thanks to everyone who's helped me out over the years - without the support of the competitive community from day one, this wouldn't have happened.

Don't be afraid to keep sending feedback, who knows what the future holds in store.

/"Toivo" chojje "Sawen"

you're amazing :')

Most of the changes near last are very experimental and right now I'm trying to find connectors that work out - the actual structures are very clunky. I agree that both mid and last are too big, and I'm currently working to make them both smaller.

Yes.

Updated to a4: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2447457/cp_chinook_a4.bsp

Updated to a3: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2447457/cp_chinook_a3.bsp

I'm so pissed that you won't get a game disc with the limited edition console - I might get that one anyways because of the swag controller.

A2 released: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2447457/cp_chinook_a2.bsp

Thanks to the nlpg group for feedback!

Yeah, I think the current path up is one too much and I'll probably rework it along the lines you described. I really want the lower and bridge area to work together, and now they feel too disconnected.

she-nawk