tbh he probably cheated but if he's clean now he's still really good. probably one of the funniest things that seemed to get swept under the rug at the top of csgo. a shit ton of top players, professionals, teams, etc thought he cheated when they saw those videos. but since he was never banned apparently it's less blatant than it was before

NO guys - rockets, pipes, and the loose cannon are nearly identical. They're all projectiles? What more do you need? If you know a demoman on the other team is using the loose cannon, why are you even trying to push? Idiots. There's always a workaround. Welcome to invite.

nope

I'll tackle the ending part first just because it seems to be bait and has nearly no purpose in this discussion. It affects the mechanics greatly, but even emotional trauma is a reason to take a second look at a weapon. Clearly it's just not fun to play against, even if the mechanics are balanced (which they aren't).

Onto the actual discussion on mechanics, the point you bring up in the beginning is actually just completely ignoring the issue. If you're trying to rush a push on an uber advantage, you have to take the fastest route. Most of the time the team will scout your push out pretty quickly, which is why uber advantages commonly turn into a game of leapfrog. You push on 30% advantage so you rush the push through, let's say, saw on snakewater. They see it, and adjust accordingly. What's great about TF2 without the loose cannon, is that a pocket with good movement, intuition, and aim can still have a successful uber, in which he either kills the medic before uber, or gets a lot of frags on entry, which can change the entire rest of the leapfrog game. With the loose cannon, all a demo has to do is shoot cannonballs that bounce ubers and send the pocket, demo, scout, whatever, flying through the air without any way to combat the pushback. It kills your momentum and leaves you basically helpless in the air. Yes, that is a HUGE deal. Pipes are very different, easier to dodge, and more intuitive when it comes to pushback. Same with stickies.

Even aside from the uber problem, you can read a post by seagull on reddit that perfectly explains how much of an effect it has on the game. https://www.reddit.com/r/truetf2/comments/1pkzqw/loose_cannon_vs_grenade_launcher/cd3kwmi
. While trading burst damage and clutch moments for consistent damage throughout the game seems like a solid and fair tradeoff, the arbitrary donk damage and the effect on movement it has for just about every class is huge. Shade walking into lower lobby on gullywash with 130 health just to drop to bdonski who threw a donk into lobby is just stupid. It just is. If it were a pipe it leaves him at 30 health, and requires teamwork from another teammate to coordinate a drop. A sticky trap is also an entirely different, far more consistent and acceptable means of dropping a medic. A donk just isn't.

You can continue to think people are just bitching, like everyone loves to think when the balance of any weapon is brought to the forums, but thinking a new weapon is perfectly balanced and acceptable for top play is just blind idealism. The mechanics behind these weapons are barely taken into consideration before they're put into the game. I have a feeling that making sure the weapon doesn't crash the server is the only thing Valve will test before they put the weapon in. They aren't going to get it right on release.

This is why we can't have thoughtful discussions and ban the right weapons. This is what a discussion on this forum has become. This. You chose this as your argument. How can you honestly compare a sniper consciously clicking on someone's head to the loose cannon? Really, man? REALLY, MAN? Come ON

fuck

Oh, yeah, the Steam snooze option is actually just a clock linked to my sleep cycles and it tells everyone that I'm sleeping! Last night we found out very abruptly we couldn't play. We should've been more aware of what was going on as a team, but it was far too late to even contact someone like sideshow to tell him we couldn't play. The best we could've done was send a message to an offline representative, which would've given them only a few hours' notice regardless. I had family over today. I wasn't going to sit around and see if we could scrape together 3 ringers. Sorry! Call me anything you like, but finding out last night we weren't going to field the members meant I was going to dedicate 100% of the time to my family and friends instead of dangling in purgatory waiting for something to happen.

I appreciate your concern with me though, kid.

Add someone else. You're very free to add anyone from the team. The circle jerk surrounding this thread might make you content but I can assure you if I needed to get an interview from a team, I wouldn't add one person and sit like a hen on its egg for multiple weeks. You just have bad management skills.

Yeah man you hit the nail on the head. SURELY that was what happened. The only thing that's worse than sensationalized titles are people like you who pretend they know exactly what's happening. Also, here's what you want to do if you want to contact me for something regarding an interview. You send me a PM through absolutely any service available (tftv, twitch, Twitter), tell me why you're adding me, then you send me an invite. Don't send an invite to one person and then get upset when they don't accept the request. You're purposely limiting the things you can do to achieve success in order to complain about it later. Getawhale added me on steam for a similar reason, noticed I wasn't accepting (because I don't look at them), and told me to accept it on Twitch. It's actually that easy.

PRETTY SAD TBH that a post like this was even made

To be honest, it's a toss-up either way. You need more information to make an educated guess as to what the issue is. But I do agree it's not worth ridiculing someone, and making a thread on a different forum just to add more fuel to the fire under his feet is exactly what an immature person would do. I did think a lot of his accusations were ridiculous and he was taking everything way too seriously, but as soon as I saw that video I didn't even have it in me to talk shit about it. It seems absolutely pointless. If you didn't like him to begin with, you got what you wanted. If you liked him, there's no reason to drag the issue through the mud and bring more attention to it. There's seemingly no reason to talk about it publicly now unless you want to hurt his feelings when he's already down, and at that point you might want to question your own mental health.

oh my G O D

I am actually beginning to think no one knows what a placebo is

I would honestly argue almost none of these are placebos. Rocket launcher preference is not a placebo, you're simply just more used to one or you prefer one origin to the other. Scout viewmodels being off allows your eyes to concentrate solely on the crosshair, without a gun model moving around in your way. Hand position and mouse shape absolutely affect reaction times as your muscles in fingers can trigger the mouse click much faster if they're already pointed down, ready to click.

If you could interchangeably say one is better than the other upon switching to it (different rocket launchers, scout viewmodel on/off), then I could maybe argue it's a placebo. Even then, it's more likely that you're just paying more attention to the game or you find it more fun since there's a little change.

I rest my case

It is the same logic we use to allow the scout class. The class is overpowered, it is stupid. How can other classes compete when all scouts have to do is click. However, both teams can use the scout, therefore balancing the class. Allow picking up mediguns at i55 please

Guys, we need tournaments upon tournaments of PROOF that picking up an enemy medic's medigun is a bad mechanic.

As was said earlier, both teams can pick up an enemy's medigun, therefore balancing the mechanic.

The argument revolves around the coinflip and that "their team is used to playing on chicago." The other server was supposed to be on chicago tonight. Regardless, we pointed out on colorado that player by player the pings are perfectly even with shrugger spiking to 80 at some point compared to mine and ash's 60. If it's on chicago, their soldiers' ping advantage will be...rather significant. We just want to equalize the pings on the server at 40-60 as if it were LAN and we were all playing with 5.

They're not trying to maliciously gain ping advantage, but it's just a different point of view on what's "fair." The coinflip, or the even pings player-by-player.